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Statistical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-10 08:24 PM
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43. NRA is rarely takes big chances.
Edited on Fri Jul-09-10 08:32 PM by Statistical
Having the most political power they go for the big relatively easy to pass bills or work to defeat the worst gun control bills. The NRA is most useful just trying to shift the line a little. A little more freedom, a little less control rather than trying to go for the hail mary.

The smaller organizations do the promoting work.

Open carry is (so far) a States Powers issue so state organizations are more nimble at dealing with local law. For example the VCDL (Virginia Citizens Defense League) has been active is protecting open carry in VA. Now Open carry has NEVER (not one day) been prohibited in VA since the founding of the nation but it did fall into obscurity and it has taken some work to prevent wrongful prosecution, illegal local laws, and intimidation. Also some work has been needed to educate Police Officers including Norfolk's finest which have been sued not once, or twice, but three times for arresting people over an illegal law.
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  -Why hasn't the NRA freaked out about Open Carry bans? KansasVoter  Jul-09-10 10:52 AM   #0 
  - Open carry is still a relatively new issue.  Llewlladdwr   Jul-09-10 10:54 AM   #1 
  - I thought open carry was legal before concealed in most places.  KansasVoter   Jul-09-10 10:58 AM   #2 
     - Wrong.  AtheistCrusader   Jul-09-10 10:59 AM   #4 
     - I know in missouri you could carry a gun in parts of the state in a holster. Before CCW.  KansasVoter   Jul-09-10 11:00 AM   #5 
     - 'some' states would be accurate.  AtheistCrusader   Jul-09-10 11:03 AM   #8 
     - NV is  cowman   Jul-09-10 04:01 PM   #34 
     - Not true if you go back far enough.  Statistical   Jul-09-10 08:09 PM   #40 
     - In Texas, IIRC, before CCW you could Open Carry  MicaelS   Jul-09-10 11:16 AM   #13 
     - Which really isn't open carry per se.  X_Digger   Jul-09-10 12:20 PM   #20 
     - The NRA isn't often the trailblazer within the gun rights movement  Pullo   Jul-09-10 11:25 AM   #14 
        - Thanks!  KansasVoter   Jul-09-10 01:39 PM   #25 
     - Being an Atheist you should have loved the NRA using "God" as much as anyone.  KansasVoter   Jul-09-10 11:02 AM   #7 
     - Being an intelligent, tool using mammal  AtheistCrusader   Jul-09-10 11:04 AM   #9 
     - Actually it is RIGHT (surprisingly given the source).  Statistical   Jul-09-10 08:05 PM   #39 
     - The laws vary from state to state.  one-eyed fat man   Jul-09-10 06:43 PM   #37 
  - Why don't you ask the NRA?  AtheistCrusader   Jul-09-10 10:58 AM   #3 
  - I did and they did not respond. You a little touchy today?  KansasVoter   Jul-09-10 11:01 AM   #6 
     - I could venture a guess, I suppose.  AtheistCrusader   Jul-09-10 11:07 AM   #10 
  - I have imagines of open carry on  HockeyMom   Jul-09-10 11:07 AM   #11 
  - I could conceal a Ruger LCP and nobody on a crowded subway would know.  GreenStormCloud   Jul-09-10 02:30 PM   #32 
  - Becaused many people react  MicaelS   Jul-09-10 11:13 AM   #12 
  - Because Civil Rights shouldn't require a burkha. n/t  PavePusher   Jul-09-10 12:23 PM   #21 
  - Is having sex with your wife a civil right?  safeinOhio   Jul-09-10 10:37 PM   #47 
     - Only if she consents without threat or intimidation.  PavePusher   Jul-09-10 11:09 PM   #49 
     - I suggest you and others  safeinOhio   Jul-10-10 08:12 AM   #52 
        - THE RIGHT OF THE PEOPLE TO KEEP AND BEAR ARMS.  Statistical   Jul-10-10 03:35 PM   #72 
     - If you're about to suggest we should be able to fuck in public...  TheWraith   Jul-09-10 11:24 PM   #50 
        - That would be infringing on  safeinOhio   Jul-10-10 08:16 AM   #53 
           - No, you're pretty much completely wrong.  TheWraith   Jul-10-10 10:05 AM   #56 
           - "Assault weapons" are in fact sporting arms  hack89   Jul-10-10 11:20 AM   #61 
  - "My opinion is if you can CCW why Carry Open?"  Statistical   Jul-09-10 08:13 PM   #41 
  - Because the NRA being lobbying organization for the arms industry doesn't care HOW one carries  tularetom   Jul-09-10 11:28 AM   #15 
  - Amen to that.  TheCowsCameHome   Jul-09-10 11:58 AM   #18 
  - My brother once said that NRA membership was defacto registration. nt  SteveM   Jul-09-10 01:43 PM   #27 
  - So is a concealed carry permit. (n/t)  spin   Jul-09-10 04:16 PM   #35 
  - BULLCRAP. The NRA is not supported by gun manufacturers.  GreenStormCloud   Jul-10-10 03:21 AM   #51 
     - SAAMI?  Callisto32   Jul-10-10 09:18 AM   #55 
     - SAAMI doesn't lobby.  GreenStormCloud   Jul-10-10 10:27 AM   #57 
     - NSSF is the lobbying arm of the mfgs.  X_Digger   Jul-10-10 03:32 PM   #70 
     - Rationalize your fear anyway you want to  tularetom   Jul-10-10 10:43 AM   #59 
        - I am already a senior citizen, drawing SS. So you need to be pretty damn old.  GreenStormCloud   Jul-10-10 11:53 AM   #62 
  - Hummm. There's that 90% number being thrown out again.  Hoopla Phil   Jul-09-10 11:33 AM   #16 
  - Must only have two numbers in Kansas. the niner and the zero.  Statistical   Jul-09-10 08:14 PM   #42 
  - You can open carry in CT but the caveat is.........  Bonhomme Richard   Jul-09-10 11:45 AM   #17 
  - Because Civil Rights should be limited by bigoted paranoids.  PavePusher   Jul-09-10 12:26 PM   #23 
  - This "upsetting" notion is a poor way to arbitrate a civil right...  SteveM   Jul-09-10 01:53 PM   #28 
  - In our permit class, the instructor who works for the state police,..  Bonhomme Richard   Jul-09-10 10:02 PM   #45 
     - This is one reason why open carry is good.  Statistical   Jul-09-10 10:49 PM   #48 
  - Your 'common wisdom' seems to be consistently wrong.  X_Digger   Jul-09-10 12:16 PM   #19 
  - "if you'd wipe out all the preconceptions you appear to have and do some actual research"  proteus_lives   Jul-09-10 12:25 PM   #22 
  - AZ has always been open carry friendly.  gravity556   Jul-09-10 01:28 PM   #24 
  - You and I could read the same stats and come to totally different conclusions......  KansasVoter   Jul-09-10 01:41 PM   #26 
     - Stay with it. You'll see the light. nt  SteveM   Jul-09-10 01:56 PM   #29 
     - Funny, same thing my GOP friends tell me. That says a lot.  KansasVoter   Jul-09-10 02:15 PM   #30 
        - Well, culture war does stink. "Liberals" are so-o-o majorly bad at it. nt  SteveM   Jul-09-10 02:32 PM   #33 
     - That's just it.. you don't have any stats to back up some of these inane assertions.  X_Digger   Jul-09-10 06:55 PM   #38 
  - Other things take higher priority.  GreenStormCloud   Jul-09-10 02:26 PM   #31 
  - Texas lost "open carry" after Mr. Lincolns War.  oneshooter   Jul-09-10 06:01 PM   #36 
  - NRA is rarely takes big chances.  Statistical   Jul-09-10 08:24 PM   #43 
  - The NRA is a moderate corporate tool  Ter   Jul-09-10 09:16 PM   #44 
  - They also contribute 100.00% of money to Republicans. n/t  Statistical   Jul-09-10 10:06 PM   #46 
     - BULLCRAP. They send about 78%.  GreenStormCloud   Jul-10-10 02:24 PM   #65 
        - Please read before your CRAP.  Statistical   Jul-10-10 03:11 PM   #67 
           - Sorry. I thought you were refering to the NRA. N/T  GreenStormCloud   Jul-10-10 03:28 PM   #69 
              - No problem.  Statistical   Jul-10-10 03:33 PM   #71 
  - In may states, it IS legal, sorta.  Callisto32   Jul-10-10 09:13 AM   #54 
  - Because open carry is far from accepted even among CCW licensees  MisterBill45   Jul-10-10 10:28 AM   #58 
  - I know we've disagreed on this before...  PavePusher   Jul-10-10 10:55 AM   #60 
  - You can't progress faster than the people can keep up  MisterBill45   Jul-10-10 12:01 PM   #63 
  - I find those arguments to be illogical.  mvccd1000   Jul-10-10 02:27 PM   #66 
  - I'm not partisan enough on the issue  MisterBill45   Jul-10-10 05:52 PM   #73 
     - "where it's technically legal and watch how fast you lose your firearms rights"  Statistical   Jul-10-10 07:04 PM   #74 
        - It is tyranny  MisterBill45   Jul-10-10 07:29 PM   #75 
  - Why don't cops conceal carry if it is tactically superior?  Statistical   Jul-10-10 03:17 PM   #68 
     - People who carry concealed in Florida often carry "mouse guns" ...  spin   Jul-10-10 08:54 PM   #76 
  - I've noticed that, too.  mvccd1000   Jul-10-10 01:53 PM   #64 
 

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