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mr_liberal Donating Member (246 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-10 09:44 AM
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32. The ACLU must be un-american then
because they agreed with that decision; the said it was about free speech.
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  -Supreme Court extends gun rights (5-4 ruling incorporates Second Amendment) usregimechange  Jun-28-10 09:18 AM   #0 
  - K&R. The typical 5-4 split, but...  brendan120678   Jun-28-10 09:20 AM   #1 
  - bump for the majority  SlipperySlope   Jun-28-10 10:41 AM   #74 
  - The nefarious and felonious five seem to becoming even more nefariouser and  indepat   Jun-28-10 04:29 PM   #119 
  - The U.S. of the NRA. Fuck the NRA, fuck guns, and fuck the Supreme Court.  katandmoon   Jun-28-10 09:22 AM   #2 
  - +1 n/t  n2doc   Jun-28-10 09:26 AM   #7 
  - Bad day Kat??? ..NT...  virginia mountainman   Jun-28-10 09:31 AM   #9 
  - +1  DrDan   Jun-28-10 09:39 AM   #23 
  - It must be tough going through life so angry about your inability to control other people  slackmaster   Jun-28-10 09:44 AM   #33 
  - LMAO!!! FUNNY post.  Bold Lib   Jun-28-10 10:24 AM   #66 
  - :-)))  aikoaiko   Jun-28-10 10:24 AM   #67 
  - You're not a big fan of Civil Rights, are you? n/t  PavePusher   Jun-28-10 10:36 AM   #69 
  - It's hard to be when you rely on prohibitionism & culture war. nt  SteveM   Jun-29-10 01:20 PM   #130 
  - Taking your ball and going home?  proteus_lives   Jun-28-10 11:05 AM   #87 
  - "Fuck, fuck, fuck..."  TPaine7   Jun-28-10 11:07 AM   #89 
  - Guns won't care one way or the other,  TPaine7   Jun-28-10 11:08 AM   #92 
  - Sounds like  guardian   Jun-28-10 11:22 AM   #99 
  - That was...  Iktomiwicasa   Jun-28-10 12:08 PM   #102 
  - Aww, here, have a cookie..  X_Digger   Jun-28-10 02:23 PM   #113 
  - And just how old are you?  rl6214   Jun-28-10 02:28 PM   #114 
  - All this love talk  minavasht   Jun-28-10 03:47 PM   #118 
  - Makes me happy to write my dues checks.  gorfle   Jun-28-10 06:55 PM   #122 
  - Self defense is a human right. Glad to see the court recognized human rights apply to all 50 states  Statistical   Jun-28-10 09:22 AM   #3 
  - +1  Tuesday Afternoon   Jun-28-10 09:31 AM   #10 
  - right-to-own extended to felons next . . . then children . . . .  DrDan   Jun-28-10 09:23 AM   #4 
  - Always the silly off the mark specualtion.  Statistical   Jun-28-10 09:35 AM   # 
  - even the Mayor is trying to keep guns out of Chicago to maintain some sense of safety  DrDan   Jun-28-10 09:38 AM   #22 
     - Chicago has a gun ban yet has a murder rate 3x the national average.  Statistical   Jun-28-10 09:40 AM   #24 
     - well then . . . if they are such a deterrent, lets arm the kids, the felons , , ,  DrDan   Jun-28-10 09:43 AM   #31 
     - From one strawman to another.  Statistical   Jun-28-10 09:46 AM   #35 
     - then lets just make it simple - guns for felons, guns for children, mandatory carry  DrDan   Jun-28-10 09:50 AM   #43 
        - DrDan, it seems you have no interest in having a serious discussion about the topic  slackmaster   Jun-28-10 09:52 AM   #44 
        - I disagree with this ruling . . . . . more guns is not the answer - imho  DrDan   Jun-28-10 09:55 AM   #50 
           - Thanks for your opinion. I disagree completely.  slackmaster   Jun-28-10 10:02 AM   #54 
           - You're not allowed to create a strawman to argue against.  TheWraith   Jun-28-10 10:38 AM   #70 
           - You are allowed to hold any position you want...  PavePusher   Jun-28-10 10:41 AM   #76 
           - hmmmm . . . don't remember asking you for "comfort" . . .  DrDan   Jun-28-10 11:13 AM   #93 
           - Quote:  PavePusher   Jun-28-10 12:17 PM   #104 
              - telling someone to turn off their computer and think about something else is badgering  DrDan   Jun-28-10 02:50 PM   #116 
        - Nobody (except you) said guns are the solution. The 2nd isn't about SOLUTIONS it is about rights.  Statistical   Jun-28-10 09:54 AM   #47 
        - Always the exception  safeinOhio   Jun-28-10 12:23 PM   #105 
        - they already are  Madame DuFuey   Jun-28-10 04:53 PM   #120 
        - "Lets just go completely nuts:" Sounds like someone is already there.  SteveM   Jun-29-10 01:26 PM   #132 
     - Blind paranoia!  HALO141   Jun-28-10 12:29 PM   #106 
     - 80 shootings and 11 deaths in 7 days - with the gun ban  DonP   Jun-28-10 10:47 AM   #79 
     - Why not toss the 4th and 5th amendments for Chicago then?  metalbot   Jun-28-10 09:49 AM   #41 
     - SCOTUS addresses that safety argument.  Bold Lib   Jun-28-10 10:43 AM   #77 
     - How's that safety thing  Abq_Sarah   Jun-28-10 12:30 PM   #107 
  - Really?  PavePusher   Jun-28-10 10:39 AM   #71 
  - The court addresses that point  safeinOhio   Jun-28-10 10:55 AM   #84 
  - Standard silliness.  proteus_lives   Jun-28-10 11:06 AM   #88 
  - Did you read it?  safeinOhio   Jun-28-10 11:19 AM   #98 
  - ...then rollicking kittycats, balled up at your feet...then flatulent Labradors!  SteveM   Jun-29-10 01:24 PM   #131 
  - Thank god they still respect one amendment  Doctor_J   Jun-28-10 09:24 AM   #5 
  - Good to hear.  Dappleganger   Jun-28-10 09:25 AM   #6 
  - SCOTUS said UNANIMOUSLY, that the 2nd Amendment applies to the state....  virginia mountainman   Jun-28-10 09:30 AM   #8 
  - Care to explain. "All 5" and "unanimously".  Statistical   Jun-28-10 09:33 AM   #13 
  - Good Catch... NT  virginia mountainman   Jun-28-10 09:35 AM   #16 
     - I am interested in readnig the disenting opinion then.  Statistical   Jun-28-10 09:37 AM   #20 
  - Theres 9 justices.  mr_liberal   Jun-28-10 09:33 AM   #14 
  - In the details...  virginia mountainman   Jun-28-10 09:36 AM   #19 
     - Ok that's better then.  mr_liberal   Jun-28-10 09:42 AM   #29 
  - The same 5 who declared that corporations are people  Doctor_J   Jun-28-10 09:35 AM   #17 
     - That is stupid.  Statistical   Jun-28-10 09:38 AM   #21 
     - What are you talking about?  Doctor_J   Jun-28-10 09:45 AM   #34 
        - No I can like that Cheney is in favor of gay marriage and at the same time not like him.  Statistical   Jun-28-10 09:47 AM   #38 
        - You just made the other person's point.  TheWraith   Jun-28-10 10:41 AM   #75 
     - The ACLU must be un-american then  mr_liberal   Jun-28-10 09:44 AM   #32 
  - Oh, goodie! More guns!! Guns always make things better.  AndyA   Jun-28-10 09:31 AM   #11 
  - I see it as "More choices"  slackmaster   Jun-28-10 09:47 AM   #36 
  - I certainly won't trust you with my civil rights.  rrneck   Jun-28-10 10:26 AM   #68 
  - Would you? Just because you have a gun?  AndyA   Jun-28-10 11:25 AM   #100 
     - If you knew anything first hand  rrneck   Jun-28-10 07:16 PM   #124 
        - You don't know me, so you aren't in a positon to judge what I do or do not know first hand.  AndyA   Jun-28-10 11:05 PM   #127 
           - Judo! *snort*  X_Digger   Jun-28-10 11:17 PM   #128 
           - Enough indeed  rrneck   Jun-29-10 10:41 AM   #129 
  - It deals with guns in the home  safeinOhio   Jun-28-10 11:04 AM   #85 
  - That is all the Court was asked to decide.  TPaine7   Jun-28-10 11:16 AM   #96 
     - You may not like what they  safeinOhio   Jun-28-10 12:17 PM   #103 
     - Actually, you don't understand my position on CCW.  TPaine7   Jun-28-10 01:25 PM   #109 
     - She does that a lot, I've noticed..  X_Digger   Jun-28-10 02:48 PM   #115 
  - More rights and choices make things better.  proteus_lives   Jun-28-10 11:07 AM   #90 
  - In most states, citizens with CCW permits have been extensively screened.  GreenStormCloud   Jun-28-10 01:27 PM   #110 
  - I've debunked that argument before.  gorfle   Jun-28-10 07:13 PM   #123 
     - And defenders of the Second are accused of paranoia? nt  SteveM   Jun-29-10 01:37 PM   #133 
  - Im glad for the decision.  mr_liberal   Jun-28-10 09:32 AM   #12 
  - Good move. Alito discusses Justice Black's "total incorporation" theory in the opinion.  Hosnon   Jun-28-10 09:34 AM   #15 
  - Mayor Daley can cry in his Cheerios now...  Atlatl   Jun-28-10 09:36 AM   #18 
  - Lets hope that this freedom doesn't result in thousands of dead people  usregimechange   Jun-28-10 09:40 AM   #25 
  - The evidence on gun bans is completely clear.  Statistical   Jun-28-10 09:42 AM   #28 
  - That wasn't my conclusion after reading all scientific findings out there  usregimechange   Jun-28-10 09:48 AM   #39 
  - Well then you didn't look very hard.  Statistical   Jun-28-10 09:49 AM   #40 
     - How have you isolated gun law among other factors? Sounds like science w/o the hard work  usregimechange   Jun-28-10 10:10 AM   #59 
        - How have you proven that gun bans lower crime?  Statistical   Jun-28-10 10:13 AM   #62 
           - I made no affirmative assertion, you did. I said the research was unclear  usregimechange   Jun-28-10 10:17 AM   #64 
              - Well then you support the ruling?  Statistical   Jun-28-10 10:19 AM   #65 
  - As in DC it leaves previously  safeinOhio   Jun-28-10 11:07 AM   #91 
  - It hasn't happened elsewhere...  PavePusher   Jun-28-10 10:48 AM   #81 
  - Look at the other states to see how well gun freedom has worked.  GreenStormCloud   Jun-28-10 01:30 PM   #111 
  - So we should ban freedom if some people act stupidly with their freedom?  NHLrocks   Jun-28-10 05:02 PM   #121 
  - oh brother . . . .  DrDan   Jun-28-10 09:42 AM   #27 
  - You do NOT support safety and sanity.  eqfan592   Jun-28-10 10:39 AM   #73 
  - I half expect the Mayor to bulldoze McDonald's house...  virginia mountainman   Jun-28-10 09:55 AM   #49 
  - Ludicrous...absolutely fucking ludicrous...takes a twisted mind to come  joeybee12   Jun-28-10 09:41 AM   #26 
  - What twisted logic.  Statistical   Jun-28-10 09:43 AM   #30 
  - Please explain why you disagree with it  slackmaster   Jun-28-10 09:47 AM   #37 
  - What happened to the state's rights crowd, activism much?  usregimechange   Jun-28-10 09:49 AM   #42 
  - What happened to the activism (incorporation) crowd,  mr_liberal   Jun-28-10 09:53 AM   #45 
  - States don't have rights. States have powers. People have rights.  slackmaster   Jun-28-10 09:53 AM   #46 
  - States don't have rights.  Statistical   Jun-28-10 09:56 AM   #51 
  - All states have to abide by the constitution, all of it. N/T  GreenStormCloud   Jun-28-10 01:35 PM   #112 
  - Justice Stevens on Judge made law:  usregimechange   Jun-28-10 09:54 AM   #48 
  - Fantastic news!  old guy   Jun-28-10 09:57 AM   #52 
  - Gun manufacturers - Not so much  DonP   Jun-28-10 11:31 AM   #101 
  - The solution is obvious: repeal the 2nd ammendment.  Donald Ian Rankin   Jun-28-10 10:00 AM   #53 
  - Except majority of Americans support right to keep and bear arms.  Statistical   Jun-28-10 10:03 AM   #56 
  - Oh, it's completely impossible, I freely acknowledge that.  Donald Ian Rankin   Jun-28-10 10:14 AM   #63 
  - Based on what evidence, exactly...  eqfan592   Jun-28-10 10:44 AM   #78 
  - Do you even know what the constitutional definition of "militia" is?  TheWraith   Jun-28-10 10:48 AM   #82 
  - I see nothing good about it. And have yet to hear why it would be "good."  SteveM   Jun-29-10 01:45 PM   #134 
  - Gallup shows that  safeinOhio   Jun-28-10 11:14 AM   #95 
  - If you think you can get 2/3 of both houses of Congress and 3/4 of state legislatures to agree  slackmaster   Jun-28-10 10:04 AM   #57 
  - So we can be as "safe" as the subjects of the Crown? n/t  oneshooter   Jun-28-10 08:11 PM   #125 
  - Yeah  cowman   Jun-28-10 10:18 PM   #126 
  - Bit of a stretch. An ideological decision.  mmonk   Jun-28-10 10:02 AM   #55 
  - Not that there's anything wrong with that  slackmaster   Jun-28-10 10:05 AM   #58 
     - Except they will deny 14th amendment rights to citizens on other issues  mmonk   Jun-28-10 10:10 AM   #60 
        - The Second Amendment has no qualifier  slackmaster   Jun-28-10 10:12 AM   #61 
           - That's interpretive at best and without the history  mmonk   Jun-28-10 10:39 AM   #72 
              - People was never equated with states. They simply said STATES.  Statistical   Jun-28-10 11:18 AM   #97 
              - The word "regulated"...  slackmaster   Jun-28-10 01:23 PM   #108 
              - "People" != "States"  X_Digger   Jun-28-10 02:58 PM   #117 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jun-28-10 10:47 AM   #80 
  - Hah, that's way funny! I am *so* quoting that last line.  friendly_iconoclast   Jun-28-10 11:13 AM   #94 
  - Another victory for civil rights in the USA.  aikoaiko   Jun-28-10 10:54 AM   #83 
  - A great decision!  proteus_lives   Jun-28-10 11:04 AM   #86 
 

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