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Mon Jun-28-10 09:43 AM
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| 31. well then . . . if they are such a deterrent, lets arm the kids, the felons , , , |
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and make it mandatory to carry . . . as I initially stated. We will soon be completely crime-free.
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| -Supreme Court extends gun rights (5-4 ruling incorporates Second Amendment) |
usregimechange |
Jun-28-10 09:18 AM |
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K&R. The typical 5-4 split, but... |
brendan120678 |
Jun-28-10 09:20 AM |
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bump for the majority |
SlipperySlope |
Jun-28-10 10:41 AM |
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The nefarious and felonious five seem to becoming even more nefariouser and |
indepat |
Jun-28-10 04:29 PM |
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The U.S. of the NRA. Fuck the NRA, fuck guns, and fuck the Supreme Court. |
katandmoon |
Jun-28-10 09:22 AM |
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+1 n/t |
n2doc |
Jun-28-10 09:26 AM |
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Bad day Kat??? ..NT... |
virginia mountainman |
Jun-28-10 09:31 AM |
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+1 |
DrDan |
Jun-28-10 09:39 AM |
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It must be tough going through life so angry about your inability to control other people |
slackmaster |
Jun-28-10 09:44 AM |
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LMAO!!! FUNNY post. |
Bold Lib |
Jun-28-10 10:24 AM |
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:-))) |
aikoaiko |
Jun-28-10 10:24 AM |
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You're not a big fan of Civil Rights, are you? n/t |
PavePusher |
Jun-28-10 10:36 AM |
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It's hard to be when you rely on prohibitionism & culture war. nt |
SteveM |
Jun-29-10 01:20 PM |
#130 |
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Taking your ball and going home? |
proteus_lives |
Jun-28-10 11:05 AM |
#87 |
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"Fuck, fuck, fuck..." |
TPaine7 |
Jun-28-10 11:07 AM |
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Guns won't care one way or the other, |
TPaine7 |
Jun-28-10 11:08 AM |
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Sounds like |
guardian |
Jun-28-10 11:22 AM |
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That was... |
Iktomiwicasa |
Jun-28-10 12:08 PM |
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Aww, here, have a cookie.. |
X_Digger |
Jun-28-10 02:23 PM |
#113 |
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And just how old are you? |
rl6214 |
Jun-28-10 02:28 PM |
#114 |
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All this love talk |
minavasht |
Jun-28-10 03:47 PM |
#118 |
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Makes me happy to write my dues checks. |
gorfle |
Jun-28-10 06:55 PM |
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Self defense is a human right. Glad to see the court recognized human rights apply to all 50 states |
Statistical |
Jun-28-10 09:22 AM |
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+1 |
Tuesday Afternoon |
Jun-28-10 09:31 AM |
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right-to-own extended to felons next . . . then children . . . . |
DrDan |
Jun-28-10 09:23 AM |
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Always the silly off the mark specualtion. |
Statistical |
Jun-28-10 09:35 AM |
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even the Mayor is trying to keep guns out of Chicago to maintain some sense of safety |
DrDan |
Jun-28-10 09:38 AM |
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Chicago has a gun ban yet has a murder rate 3x the national average. |
Statistical |
Jun-28-10 09:40 AM |
#24 |
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well then . . . if they are such a deterrent, lets arm the kids, the felons , , , |
DrDan |
Jun-28-10 09:43 AM |
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From one strawman to another. |
Statistical |
Jun-28-10 09:46 AM |
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then lets just make it simple - guns for felons, guns for children, mandatory carry |
DrDan |
Jun-28-10 09:50 AM |
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DrDan, it seems you have no interest in having a serious discussion about the topic |
slackmaster |
Jun-28-10 09:52 AM |
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I disagree with this ruling . . . . . more guns is not the answer - imho |
DrDan |
Jun-28-10 09:55 AM |
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Thanks for your opinion. I disagree completely. |
slackmaster |
Jun-28-10 10:02 AM |
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You're not allowed to create a strawman to argue against. |
TheWraith |
Jun-28-10 10:38 AM |
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You are allowed to hold any position you want... |
PavePusher |
Jun-28-10 10:41 AM |
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hmmmm . . . don't remember asking you for "comfort" . . . |
DrDan |
Jun-28-10 11:13 AM |
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Quote: |
PavePusher |
Jun-28-10 12:17 PM |
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telling someone to turn off their computer and think about something else is badgering |
DrDan |
Jun-28-10 02:50 PM |
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Nobody (except you) said guns are the solution. The 2nd isn't about SOLUTIONS it is about rights. |
Statistical |
Jun-28-10 09:54 AM |
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Always the exception |
safeinOhio |
Jun-28-10 12:23 PM |
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they already are |
Madame DuFuey |
Jun-28-10 04:53 PM |
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"Lets just go completely nuts:" Sounds like someone is already there. |
SteveM |
Jun-29-10 01:26 PM |
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Blind paranoia! |
HALO141 |
Jun-28-10 12:29 PM |
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80 shootings and 11 deaths in 7 days - with the gun ban |
DonP |
Jun-28-10 10:47 AM |
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Why not toss the 4th and 5th amendments for Chicago then? |
metalbot |
Jun-28-10 09:49 AM |
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SCOTUS addresses that safety argument. |
Bold Lib |
Jun-28-10 10:43 AM |
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How's that safety thing |
Abq_Sarah |
Jun-28-10 12:30 PM |
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Really? |
PavePusher |
Jun-28-10 10:39 AM |
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The court addresses that point |
safeinOhio |
Jun-28-10 10:55 AM |
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Standard silliness. |
proteus_lives |
Jun-28-10 11:06 AM |
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Did you read it? |
safeinOhio |
Jun-28-10 11:19 AM |
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...then rollicking kittycats, balled up at your feet...then flatulent Labradors! |
SteveM |
Jun-29-10 01:24 PM |
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Thank god they still respect one amendment |
Doctor_J |
Jun-28-10 09:24 AM |
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Good to hear. |
Dappleganger |
Jun-28-10 09:25 AM |
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SCOTUS said UNANIMOUSLY, that the 2nd Amendment applies to the state.... |
virginia mountainman |
Jun-28-10 09:30 AM |
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Care to explain. "All 5" and "unanimously". |
Statistical |
Jun-28-10 09:33 AM |
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Good Catch... NT |
virginia mountainman |
Jun-28-10 09:35 AM |
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I am interested in readnig the disenting opinion then. |
Statistical |
Jun-28-10 09:37 AM |
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Theres 9 justices. |
mr_liberal |
Jun-28-10 09:33 AM |
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In the details... |
virginia mountainman |
Jun-28-10 09:36 AM |
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Ok that's better then. |
mr_liberal |
Jun-28-10 09:42 AM |
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The same 5 who declared that corporations are people |
Doctor_J |
Jun-28-10 09:35 AM |
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That is stupid. |
Statistical |
Jun-28-10 09:38 AM |
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What are you talking about? |
Doctor_J |
Jun-28-10 09:45 AM |
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No I can like that Cheney is in favor of gay marriage and at the same time not like him. |
Statistical |
Jun-28-10 09:47 AM |
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You just made the other person's point. |
TheWraith |
Jun-28-10 10:41 AM |
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The ACLU must be un-american then |
mr_liberal |
Jun-28-10 09:44 AM |
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Oh, goodie! More guns!! Guns always make things better. |
AndyA |
Jun-28-10 09:31 AM |
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I see it as "More choices" |
slackmaster |
Jun-28-10 09:47 AM |
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I certainly won't trust you with my civil rights. |
rrneck |
Jun-28-10 10:26 AM |
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Would you? Just because you have a gun? |
AndyA |
Jun-28-10 11:25 AM |
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If you knew anything first hand |
rrneck |
Jun-28-10 07:16 PM |
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You don't know me, so you aren't in a positon to judge what I do or do not know first hand. |
AndyA |
Jun-28-10 11:05 PM |
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Judo! *snort* |
X_Digger |
Jun-28-10 11:17 PM |
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Enough indeed |
rrneck |
Jun-29-10 10:41 AM |
#129 |
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It deals with guns in the home |
safeinOhio |
Jun-28-10 11:04 AM |
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That is all the Court was asked to decide. |
TPaine7 |
Jun-28-10 11:16 AM |
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You may not like what they |
safeinOhio |
Jun-28-10 12:17 PM |
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Actually, you don't understand my position on CCW. |
TPaine7 |
Jun-28-10 01:25 PM |
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She does that a lot, I've noticed.. |
X_Digger |
Jun-28-10 02:48 PM |
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More rights and choices make things better. |
proteus_lives |
Jun-28-10 11:07 AM |
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In most states, citizens with CCW permits have been extensively screened. |
GreenStormCloud |
Jun-28-10 01:27 PM |
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I've debunked that argument before. |
gorfle |
Jun-28-10 07:13 PM |
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And defenders of the Second are accused of paranoia? nt |
SteveM |
Jun-29-10 01:37 PM |
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Im glad for the decision. |
mr_liberal |
Jun-28-10 09:32 AM |
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Good move. Alito discusses Justice Black's "total incorporation" theory in the opinion. |
Hosnon |
Jun-28-10 09:34 AM |
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Mayor Daley can cry in his Cheerios now... |
Atlatl |
Jun-28-10 09:36 AM |
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Lets hope that this freedom doesn't result in thousands of dead people |
usregimechange |
Jun-28-10 09:40 AM |
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The evidence on gun bans is completely clear. |
Statistical |
Jun-28-10 09:42 AM |
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That wasn't my conclusion after reading all scientific findings out there |
usregimechange |
Jun-28-10 09:48 AM |
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Well then you didn't look very hard. |
Statistical |
Jun-28-10 09:49 AM |
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How have you isolated gun law among other factors? Sounds like science w/o the hard work |
usregimechange |
Jun-28-10 10:10 AM |
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How have you proven that gun bans lower crime? |
Statistical |
Jun-28-10 10:13 AM |
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I made no affirmative assertion, you did. I said the research was unclear |
usregimechange |
Jun-28-10 10:17 AM |
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Well then you support the ruling? |
Statistical |
Jun-28-10 10:19 AM |
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As in DC it leaves previously |
safeinOhio |
Jun-28-10 11:07 AM |
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It hasn't happened elsewhere... |
PavePusher |
Jun-28-10 10:48 AM |
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Look at the other states to see how well gun freedom has worked. |
GreenStormCloud |
Jun-28-10 01:30 PM |
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So we should ban freedom if some people act stupidly with their freedom? |
NHLrocks |
Jun-28-10 05:02 PM |
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oh brother . . . . |
DrDan |
Jun-28-10 09:42 AM |
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You do NOT support safety and sanity. |
eqfan592 |
Jun-28-10 10:39 AM |
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I half expect the Mayor to bulldoze McDonald's house... |
virginia mountainman |
Jun-28-10 09:55 AM |
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Ludicrous...absolutely fucking ludicrous...takes a twisted mind to come |
joeybee12 |
Jun-28-10 09:41 AM |
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What twisted logic. |
Statistical |
Jun-28-10 09:43 AM |
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Please explain why you disagree with it |
slackmaster |
Jun-28-10 09:47 AM |
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What happened to the state's rights crowd, activism much? |
usregimechange |
Jun-28-10 09:49 AM |
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What happened to the activism (incorporation) crowd, |
mr_liberal |
Jun-28-10 09:53 AM |
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States don't have rights. States have powers. People have rights. |
slackmaster |
Jun-28-10 09:53 AM |
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States don't have rights. |
Statistical |
Jun-28-10 09:56 AM |
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All states have to abide by the constitution, all of it. N/T |
GreenStormCloud |
Jun-28-10 01:35 PM |
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Justice Stevens on Judge made law: |
usregimechange |
Jun-28-10 09:54 AM |
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Fantastic news! |
old guy |
Jun-28-10 09:57 AM |
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Gun manufacturers - Not so much |
DonP |
Jun-28-10 11:31 AM |
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The solution is obvious: repeal the 2nd ammendment. |
Donald Ian Rankin |
Jun-28-10 10:00 AM |
#53 |
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Except majority of Americans support right to keep and bear arms. |
Statistical |
Jun-28-10 10:03 AM |
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Oh, it's completely impossible, I freely acknowledge that. |
Donald Ian Rankin |
Jun-28-10 10:14 AM |
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Based on what evidence, exactly... |
eqfan592 |
Jun-28-10 10:44 AM |
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Do you even know what the constitutional definition of "militia" is? |
TheWraith |
Jun-28-10 10:48 AM |
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I see nothing good about it. And have yet to hear why it would be "good." |
SteveM |
Jun-29-10 01:45 PM |
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Gallup shows that |
safeinOhio |
Jun-28-10 11:14 AM |
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If you think you can get 2/3 of both houses of Congress and 3/4 of state legislatures to agree |
slackmaster |
Jun-28-10 10:04 AM |
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So we can be as "safe" as the subjects of the Crown? n/t |
oneshooter |
Jun-28-10 08:11 PM |
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Yeah |
cowman |
Jun-28-10 10:18 PM |
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Bit of a stretch. An ideological decision. |
mmonk |
Jun-28-10 10:02 AM |
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Not that there's anything wrong with that |
slackmaster |
Jun-28-10 10:05 AM |
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Except they will deny 14th amendment rights to citizens on other issues |
mmonk |
Jun-28-10 10:10 AM |
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The Second Amendment has no qualifier |
slackmaster |
Jun-28-10 10:12 AM |
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That's interpretive at best and without the history |
mmonk |
Jun-28-10 10:39 AM |
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People was never equated with states. They simply said STATES. |
Statistical |
Jun-28-10 11:18 AM |
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The word "regulated"... |
slackmaster |
Jun-28-10 01:23 PM |
#108 |
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"People" != "States" |
X_Digger |
Jun-28-10 02:58 PM |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Jun-28-10 10:47 AM |
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Hah, that's way funny! I am *so* quoting that last line. |
friendly_iconoclast |
Jun-28-10 11:13 AM |
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Another victory for civil rights in the USA. |
aikoaiko |
Jun-28-10 10:54 AM |
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A great decision! |
proteus_lives |
Jun-28-10 11:04 AM |
#86 |
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