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Mon Jun-14-10 09:43 AM
Response to Reply #13 |
| 32. 43 states have determined it to be at the state level. |
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Two states forbid concealed carry completely. 41 states have shall-issue laws.
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| -Attempt At A Civil Discussion |
billh58 |
Jun-13-10 09:59 PM |
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"Instead of demanding that I concede that my concerns are groundless based on statistics..." |
TPaine7 |
Jun-13-10 10:13 PM |
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You may be |
billh58 |
Jun-13-10 10:35 PM |
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I believe that increased concealed carry and gun ownership by sane adult non-felons tends |
TPaine7 |
Jun-13-10 11:31 PM |
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Well said, and |
billh58 |
Jun-14-10 12:08 AM |
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I appreciate intelligent debate. It's quite refreshing, really. |
TPaine7 |
Jun-14-10 03:30 AM |
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All great points, and |
billh58 |
Jun-14-10 04:26 AM |
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Actually, it has been addressed. |
GreenStormCloud |
Jun-14-10 09:38 AM |
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I think I will make several small posts, instead of one long one. |
TPaine7 |
Jun-14-10 03:27 PM |
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Thanks for the |
billh58 |
Jun-14-10 04:23 PM |
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Recent estimates double that number.. |
X_Digger |
Jun-14-10 05:27 PM |
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Second post |
TPaine7 |
Jun-14-10 04:29 PM |
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Thanks again |
billh58 |
Jun-14-10 04:44 PM |
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I wouldn't go so far as to say "absolute" |
TPaine7 |
Jun-14-10 05:19 PM |
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But Hawaii has a very high general crime rate. |
GreenStormCloud |
Jun-14-10 09:59 AM |
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I wasn't going to mention this, but a serviceman in my family said that he and other soldiers |
TPaine7 |
Jun-14-10 05:01 PM |
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Statistics may be malleable. |
TheWraith |
Jun-13-10 11:48 PM |
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The "norm" |
billh58 |
Jun-14-10 12:12 AM |
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Shall-issue concealed carry IS the norm in most states. |
GreenStormCloud |
Jun-14-10 01:18 PM |
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All you are going to get from this room is that legal gun owners are perfect saints... |
onehandle |
Jun-13-10 10:16 PM |
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The problem with your position is that it doesn't hold water. |
TPaine7 |
Jun-13-10 10:43 PM |
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Oh, and they will deny that the collective here believes these things. |
onehandle |
Jun-13-10 10:48 PM |
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If you were actually arguing with anyone here, you might get taken seriously. |
TheWraith |
Jun-13-10 11:06 PM |
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It's always one falsehood after another with you, isn't it? |
jazzhound |
Jun-14-10 03:32 AM |
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deleted -- duplicate post n/t |
jazzhound |
Jun-14-10 03:32 AM |
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Gun-owners at DU are a "collective?" See, we're leftists after all. nt |
SteveM |
Jun-15-10 01:46 PM |
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Jun-13-10 11:48 PM |
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I never had much use for statistics. |
rrneck |
Jun-13-10 11:37 PM |
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Thanks for the |
billh58 |
Jun-14-10 12:18 AM |
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I lean toward federal regulation. |
rrneck |
Jun-14-10 12:26 AM |
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Heller guaranteed |
billh58 |
Jun-14-10 12:41 AM |
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43 states have determined it to be at the state level. |
GreenStormCloud |
Jun-14-10 09:43 AM |
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You touch on an important point |
Euromutt |
Jun-14-10 08:40 PM |
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I submit to a fingerprint check, and full background check every 7 years |
AtheistCrusader |
Jun-14-10 12:32 AM |
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While I'm sure |
billh58 |
Jun-14-10 12:52 AM |
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Oh, I've been printed and scrutinized 6 ways till sunday for other reasons. |
AtheistCrusader |
Jun-14-10 02:14 AM |
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Each state |
billh58 |
Jun-14-10 03:08 AM |
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I'm not a fan of the Castle Doctrine. |
AtheistCrusader |
Jun-14-10 10:50 AM |
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It's not a requirement that you shoot an intruder under castle doctrine ... |
spin |
Jun-14-10 12:52 PM |
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Are you sure about what SCOTUS considers constitutional?... |
SteveM |
Jun-15-10 01:53 PM |
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You are correct, and |
billh58 |
Jun-15-10 03:44 PM |
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No problem. Scalia says he's conservative, so you have to think like that. nt |
SteveM |
Jun-15-10 04:04 PM |
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I'm willing to have a civil discussion on this issue if you |
jazzhound |
Jun-14-10 03:08 AM |
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The use of sarcasm |
billh58 |
Jun-14-10 03:21 AM |
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What I have difficulty understanding... |
Scuba |
Jun-14-10 03:39 AM |
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I am not aware |
billh58 |
Jun-14-10 04:39 AM |
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There are several on DU that have |
oneshooter |
Jun-14-10 03:56 PM |
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Well |
pipoman |
Jun-15-10 11:09 PM |
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Thanks for your |
billh58 |
Jun-16-10 12:11 AM |
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I have had a PA State License to Carry a Firearm for over 15 years. |
old mark |
Jun-14-10 05:40 AM |
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Your request is somewhat problematic |
Euromutt |
Jun-14-10 06:09 AM |
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Your inability to deal with reality is not my burden to bear. |
X_Digger |
Jun-14-10 08:19 AM |
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Problem with the first article. |
GreenStormCloud |
Jun-14-10 08:22 AM |
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A sincere thank you |
billh58 |
Jun-14-10 01:48 PM |
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I can understand your reservations about CCW ... |
spin |
Jun-14-10 02:24 PM |
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Thank you for the |
billh58 |
Jun-14-10 10:40 PM |
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oh, I'm late to the party, but let me join the fun |
iverglas |
Jun-14-10 08:10 PM |
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Well said, |
billh58 |
Jun-14-10 09:09 PM |
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Dave Kopel does not favor Canadian-style gun prohibitions |
TPaine7 |
Jun-14-10 09:43 PM |
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Thanks for the link |
billh58 |
Jun-14-10 10:27 PM |
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I appreciate that. |
TPaine7 |
Jun-14-10 11:54 PM |
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I'm sincerely glad that you checked out the link that |
jazzhound |
Jun-15-10 09:50 PM |
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Thank you |
billh58 |
Jun-15-10 10:37 PM |
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You're very welcome. |
jazzhound |
Jun-15-10 11:09 PM |
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I agree, and "statistics" |
billh58 |
Jun-15-10 11:59 PM |
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We likely agree on more than we disagree. |
jazzhound |
Jun-16-10 03:27 AM |
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