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Wed Apr-28-10 10:12 AM
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Red-dot sights typically do not offer any, or much magnification. They simply present a holographic dot to the eye that can be used similar to iron sights, but they allow faster target acquisition because they are more open and do not require the shooter to close one eye to use.
Snipers typically use telescopic sights.
While nearly any rifle, even AR-15s, can be fitted with a scope, most actual sniping is done with bolt-action rifles, as they tend to be more accurate than semi-automatic rifles.
And of course bolt-action rifle technology is over 100 years old. Most modern bolt-action rifles are still variants of the 1898 Mauser action.
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| -People who own "black rifles" love target shooting ... |
spin |
Apr-27-10 09:41 AM |
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There's too much emphasis on calling these guns "sporting rifles" |
derby378 |
Apr-27-10 09:45 AM |
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With the exception of a .22, every rifle I own is a "military rifle". |
PavePusher |
Apr-27-10 11:00 AM |
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The military has used suppressed .22 pistols extensively. nt |
Hoopla Phil |
Apr-27-10 02:02 PM |
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Heh, true. |
PavePusher |
Apr-27-10 02:12 PM |
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I agree. |
gorfle |
Apr-28-10 10:08 AM |
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I think you are missing the important distinction. |
ManiacJoe |
Apr-28-10 04:00 PM |
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I don't think the rate of fire makes the distinction. |
gorfle |
Apr-28-10 04:14 PM |
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So, what features or capabilities make them special? |
ManiacJoe |
Apr-28-10 04:27 PM |
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Ruggedness. |
gorfle |
Apr-28-10 05:45 PM |
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Are you really suggesting that durability is the deciding factor? |
ManiacJoe |
Apr-28-10 07:39 PM |
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Well we will have to agree to disagree. |
gorfle |
Apr-28-10 11:48 PM |
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Civilian rifles need ruggedness too. |
Ready4Change |
Apr-30-10 12:06 PM |
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I'd say rate of fire is the crucial distinction |
Euromutt |
Apr-28-10 06:05 PM |
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"assault" |
gorfle |
Apr-28-10 06:58 PM |
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You are reading WAY too much into the name. |
ManiacJoe |
Apr-28-10 07:46 PM |
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The M1 Garand is considered a "Battle Rifle" |
oneshooter |
Apr-28-10 07:53 PM |
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I agree that is the key term |
Euromutt |
Apr-29-10 07:00 AM |
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The opinion of a US Army Armourer. |
gorfle |
Apr-29-10 10:00 AM |
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Great post! (n/t) |
spin |
Apr-29-10 03:30 PM |
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The term "sporting" really, really needs to go away. It is SOOOO 1950's. |
benEzra |
Apr-30-10 10:02 PM |
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These sound too easily used by angry and unbalanced snipers. |
sharesunited |
Apr-27-10 10:04 AM |
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They only sound that way |
sailor65 |
Apr-27-10 10:06 AM |
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You mean they're not any good for climbing up on high places and picking off people from a distance? |
sharesunited |
Apr-27-10 10:14 AM |
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I can think of a few better choices for that. |
jeepnstein |
Apr-27-10 10:20 AM |
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Here is what John Muhammed used in the beltway sniper attacks. |
sharesunited |
Apr-27-10 10:35 AM |
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Got any more examples? |
jeepnstein |
Apr-27-10 10:53 AM |
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This example makes the point clearly enough. Target fun is unworthy of constitutional protection. |
sharesunited |
Apr-27-10 10:58 AM |
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Target shooting is a difficult sport that takes time to master ... |
spin |
Apr-27-10 01:04 PM |
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One criminal's actions result in the loss... |
jeepnstein |
Apr-27-10 01:27 PM |
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What constitutional protections do you believe in? |
Glassunion |
Apr-27-10 02:26 PM |
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None are spared from pruning to fit the society we live in and the common good. |
sharesunited |
Apr-27-10 02:53 PM |
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Obviously you disagree with the entire Constitution ... |
spin |
Apr-27-10 03:58 PM |
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Name any one of the first ten amendments |
sharesunited |
Apr-27-10 04:36 PM |
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All ten have... |
Glassunion |
Apr-27-10 04:55 PM |
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OK. How about the Third Amendment .... |
spin |
Apr-27-10 05:12 PM |
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Shares, here's the deal. |
gorfle |
Apr-28-10 10:27 AM |
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I would have to disagree. |
Glassunion |
Apr-27-10 04:01 PM |
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No no no, the right to keep and bear arms kills no one. |
Callisto32 |
Apr-27-10 04:53 PM |
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And fire doesn't burn. Kindling combusts. |
sharesunited |
Apr-27-10 04:55 PM |
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My point was that people having the right to bear arms is different from killing people. |
Callisto32 |
Apr-27-10 06:22 PM |
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NO |
cowman |
Apr-27-10 09:26 PM |
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Having a gun can also save your life. |
GreenStormCloud |
Apr-27-10 05:55 PM |
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Are conservatives allowed to prune as well? |
hack89 |
Apr-27-10 07:42 PM |
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Of course. And they do, according to their power from time to time to steer the judiciary. |
sharesunited |
Apr-27-10 08:16 PM |
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That's funny. |
JoeyT |
Apr-27-10 11:38 PM |
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It's also only the 2nd that can protect all of your other rights. |
gorfle |
Apr-28-10 10:19 AM |
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Ironically enough, suitability for MILITARY purposes IS worthy of Constitutional protection |
HALO141 |
Apr-27-10 05:15 PM |
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Careful with that one. POTUS is the constitutional CIC of the militia. |
sharesunited |
Apr-27-10 08:26 PM |
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He could do that for the time... |
jeepnstein |
Apr-28-10 07:28 AM |
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Don't make me laugh. |
HALO141 |
Apr-28-10 10:26 AM |
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Um, it's in the Bill of Rights. |
appal_jack |
Apr-27-10 09:14 PM |
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They're all just as lethal, to an extent. Rifles are either capable or incapable. |
OneTenthofOnePercent |
Apr-27-10 11:07 AM |
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50 to just over 100 yards is point-blank range for a rifle. N/T |
GreenStormCloud |
Apr-27-10 11:15 AM |
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50 - 100 yards is not the kind of distance a true sniper would shoot |
slackmaster |
Apr-27-10 03:36 PM |
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50 to 100 yards is not sniper distance. That's just a little further out than shotgun distance. |
mistertrickster |
Apr-27-10 05:20 PM |
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Well.... To be accurate (no pun intended) |
HALO141 |
Apr-27-10 05:43 PM |
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There is a reason why police sniper rarely take longer range shots. |
GreenStormCloud |
Apr-27-10 06:00 PM |
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You are correct. |
HALO141 |
Apr-28-10 10:29 AM |
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I figured that you knew the difference. |
GreenStormCloud |
Apr-28-10 10:42 AM |
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Good point, hadn't thought about that . . . nt |
mistertrickster |
Apr-27-10 06:02 PM |
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That's not sniping. |
gorfle |
Apr-28-10 10:12 AM |
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And if he'd used a better rifle, he would have killed a lot more people. |
TheWraith |
Apr-28-10 11:26 AM |
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Not as much as granddad's blued, walnut stocked gun |
X_Digger |
Apr-27-10 10:22 AM |
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Not at all |
sailor65 |
Apr-27-10 10:23 AM |
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Watch this video of a WWII German 98K rifle at 900 yards ... |
spin |
Apr-27-10 11:23 AM |
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Very cool. Thanks. nt |
rrneck |
Apr-27-10 06:17 PM |
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Nice! |
proteus_lives |
Apr-27-10 10:38 PM |
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My first choice from my own collection would be a Swedish Mauser |
slackmaster |
Apr-27-10 03:40 PM |
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Negative, 55 grains is to light. Pushed around by wind. 300 grains at 3000fps |
Pavulon |
Apr-27-10 07:18 PM |
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Just about any rifle can do that. |
gorfle |
Apr-28-10 10:18 AM |
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All deer rifle fit that description. All serious caliber hunting rifles do too. |
GreenStormCloud |
Apr-27-10 11:18 AM |
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DEER Rifles are not Sniper rifles |
dr28704 |
Apr-29-10 01:27 PM |
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Unlike any scoped deer rifle. |
PavePusher |
Apr-27-10 02:13 PM |
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Actually, these rifles have fairly short barrels and small diameter bullets fired at high velocity. |
mistertrickster |
Apr-27-10 05:17 PM |
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Showing your ignorance. |
proteus_lives |
Apr-27-10 10:36 PM |
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Less so than actual military sniper rifles like the Winchester Model 70 and Remington Model 700... |
benEzra |
Apr-30-10 10:44 PM |
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That's really all they're good for. |
jeepnstein |
Apr-27-10 10:14 AM |
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I'm not sure sure about it being purely a fighting rifle, anymore. |
Callisto32 |
Apr-27-10 10:34 AM |
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AR rifles are also used for hunting and are becoming quite popular... |
spin |
Apr-27-10 10:50 AM |
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The M1 Garand isn't a "fighting gun"? |
Euromutt |
Apr-27-10 11:40 AM |
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Words have meanings. |
jeepnstein |
Apr-27-10 01:29 PM |
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Not picking |
Katya Mullethov |
Apr-27-10 02:38 PM |
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Well, there I have to agree with you |
Euromutt |
Apr-28-10 03:40 AM |
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They are popular partly because of their modularity, |
Lost4words |
Apr-27-10 10:18 AM |
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In the city I always wished I could legally carry a hand gun |
SPedigrees |
Apr-27-10 10:57 AM |
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I hate to say this ... |
spin |
Apr-27-10 11:43 AM |
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Get over yourself. |
SPedigrees |
Apr-27-10 12:34 PM |
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My daughter has a concealed carry permit ... |
spin |
Apr-27-10 01:57 PM |
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I'm sorry about your daughter and her friend. |
SPedigrees |
Apr-27-10 03:00 PM |
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I believe we both agree on the issue. |
spin |
Apr-27-10 03:22 PM |
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I guess I need to get over myself as well............ |
jazzhound |
Apr-27-10 12:54 PM |
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I recently picked up this .308 "sporting rifle" |
OneTenthofOnePercent |
Apr-27-10 10:48 AM |
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Of course you don't need a wiz bang black rifle |
oneshooter |
Apr-27-10 03:35 PM |
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Wow! |
Glassunion |
Apr-27-10 05:01 PM |
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These videos might interest you ... |
spin |
Apr-27-10 05:52 PM |
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So cool. |
Glassunion |
Apr-27-10 06:36 PM |
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