SPedigrees
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Tue Apr-27-10 12:34 PM
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Who said anything about permits or 'conceal carry.' My point is I don't need a permit for a firearm, hidden or not, in rural, mostly crime free vermont.
In Boston where it would be next to impossible to legally carry a weapon, is where a (defenseless) 100 lb woman could use a defensive tool.
There is an irony here (and it's not especially humorless) but I think you don't get it.
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| -People who own "black rifles" love target shooting ... |
spin |
Apr-27-10 09:41 AM |
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There's too much emphasis on calling these guns "sporting rifles" |
derby378 |
Apr-27-10 09:45 AM |
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With the exception of a .22, every rifle I own is a "military rifle". |
PavePusher |
Apr-27-10 11:00 AM |
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The military has used suppressed .22 pistols extensively. nt |
Hoopla Phil |
Apr-27-10 02:02 PM |
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Heh, true. |
PavePusher |
Apr-27-10 02:12 PM |
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I agree. |
gorfle |
Apr-28-10 10:08 AM |
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I think you are missing the important distinction. |
ManiacJoe |
Apr-28-10 04:00 PM |
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I don't think the rate of fire makes the distinction. |
gorfle |
Apr-28-10 04:14 PM |
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So, what features or capabilities make them special? |
ManiacJoe |
Apr-28-10 04:27 PM |
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Ruggedness. |
gorfle |
Apr-28-10 05:45 PM |
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Are you really suggesting that durability is the deciding factor? |
ManiacJoe |
Apr-28-10 07:39 PM |
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Well we will have to agree to disagree. |
gorfle |
Apr-28-10 11:48 PM |
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Civilian rifles need ruggedness too. |
Ready4Change |
Apr-30-10 12:06 PM |
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I'd say rate of fire is the crucial distinction |
Euromutt |
Apr-28-10 06:05 PM |
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"assault" |
gorfle |
Apr-28-10 06:58 PM |
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You are reading WAY too much into the name. |
ManiacJoe |
Apr-28-10 07:46 PM |
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The M1 Garand is considered a "Battle Rifle" |
oneshooter |
Apr-28-10 07:53 PM |
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I agree that is the key term |
Euromutt |
Apr-29-10 07:00 AM |
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The opinion of a US Army Armourer. |
gorfle |
Apr-29-10 10:00 AM |
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Great post! (n/t) |
spin |
Apr-29-10 03:30 PM |
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The term "sporting" really, really needs to go away. It is SOOOO 1950's. |
benEzra |
Apr-30-10 10:02 PM |
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These sound too easily used by angry and unbalanced snipers. |
sharesunited |
Apr-27-10 10:04 AM |
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They only sound that way |
sailor65 |
Apr-27-10 10:06 AM |
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You mean they're not any good for climbing up on high places and picking off people from a distance? |
sharesunited |
Apr-27-10 10:14 AM |
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I can think of a few better choices for that. |
jeepnstein |
Apr-27-10 10:20 AM |
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Here is what John Muhammed used in the beltway sniper attacks. |
sharesunited |
Apr-27-10 10:35 AM |
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Got any more examples? |
jeepnstein |
Apr-27-10 10:53 AM |
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This example makes the point clearly enough. Target fun is unworthy of constitutional protection. |
sharesunited |
Apr-27-10 10:58 AM |
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Target shooting is a difficult sport that takes time to master ... |
spin |
Apr-27-10 01:04 PM |
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One criminal's actions result in the loss... |
jeepnstein |
Apr-27-10 01:27 PM |
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What constitutional protections do you believe in? |
Glassunion |
Apr-27-10 02:26 PM |
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None are spared from pruning to fit the society we live in and the common good. |
sharesunited |
Apr-27-10 02:53 PM |
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Obviously you disagree with the entire Constitution ... |
spin |
Apr-27-10 03:58 PM |
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Name any one of the first ten amendments |
sharesunited |
Apr-27-10 04:36 PM |
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All ten have... |
Glassunion |
Apr-27-10 04:55 PM |
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OK. How about the Third Amendment .... |
spin |
Apr-27-10 05:12 PM |
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Shares, here's the deal. |
gorfle |
Apr-28-10 10:27 AM |
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I would have to disagree. |
Glassunion |
Apr-27-10 04:01 PM |
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No no no, the right to keep and bear arms kills no one. |
Callisto32 |
Apr-27-10 04:53 PM |
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And fire doesn't burn. Kindling combusts. |
sharesunited |
Apr-27-10 04:55 PM |
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My point was that people having the right to bear arms is different from killing people. |
Callisto32 |
Apr-27-10 06:22 PM |
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NO |
cowman |
Apr-27-10 09:26 PM |
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Having a gun can also save your life. |
GreenStormCloud |
Apr-27-10 05:55 PM |
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Are conservatives allowed to prune as well? |
hack89 |
Apr-27-10 07:42 PM |
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Of course. And they do, according to their power from time to time to steer the judiciary. |
sharesunited |
Apr-27-10 08:16 PM |
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That's funny. |
JoeyT |
Apr-27-10 11:38 PM |
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It's also only the 2nd that can protect all of your other rights. |
gorfle |
Apr-28-10 10:19 AM |
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Ironically enough, suitability for MILITARY purposes IS worthy of Constitutional protection |
HALO141 |
Apr-27-10 05:15 PM |
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Careful with that one. POTUS is the constitutional CIC of the militia. |
sharesunited |
Apr-27-10 08:26 PM |
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He could do that for the time... |
jeepnstein |
Apr-28-10 07:28 AM |
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Don't make me laugh. |
HALO141 |
Apr-28-10 10:26 AM |
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Um, it's in the Bill of Rights. |
appal_jack |
Apr-27-10 09:14 PM |
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They're all just as lethal, to an extent. Rifles are either capable or incapable. |
OneTenthofOnePercent |
Apr-27-10 11:07 AM |
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50 to just over 100 yards is point-blank range for a rifle. N/T |
GreenStormCloud |
Apr-27-10 11:15 AM |
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50 - 100 yards is not the kind of distance a true sniper would shoot |
slackmaster |
Apr-27-10 03:36 PM |
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50 to 100 yards is not sniper distance. That's just a little further out than shotgun distance. |
mistertrickster |
Apr-27-10 05:20 PM |
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Well.... To be accurate (no pun intended) |
HALO141 |
Apr-27-10 05:43 PM |
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There is a reason why police sniper rarely take longer range shots. |
GreenStormCloud |
Apr-27-10 06:00 PM |
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You are correct. |
HALO141 |
Apr-28-10 10:29 AM |
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I figured that you knew the difference. |
GreenStormCloud |
Apr-28-10 10:42 AM |
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Good point, hadn't thought about that . . . nt |
mistertrickster |
Apr-27-10 06:02 PM |
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That's not sniping. |
gorfle |
Apr-28-10 10:12 AM |
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And if he'd used a better rifle, he would have killed a lot more people. |
TheWraith |
Apr-28-10 11:26 AM |
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Not as much as granddad's blued, walnut stocked gun |
X_Digger |
Apr-27-10 10:22 AM |
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Not at all |
sailor65 |
Apr-27-10 10:23 AM |
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Watch this video of a WWII German 98K rifle at 900 yards ... |
spin |
Apr-27-10 11:23 AM |
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Very cool. Thanks. nt |
rrneck |
Apr-27-10 06:17 PM |
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Nice! |
proteus_lives |
Apr-27-10 10:38 PM |
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My first choice from my own collection would be a Swedish Mauser |
slackmaster |
Apr-27-10 03:40 PM |
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Negative, 55 grains is to light. Pushed around by wind. 300 grains at 3000fps |
Pavulon |
Apr-27-10 07:18 PM |
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Just about any rifle can do that. |
gorfle |
Apr-28-10 10:18 AM |
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All deer rifle fit that description. All serious caliber hunting rifles do too. |
GreenStormCloud |
Apr-27-10 11:18 AM |
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DEER Rifles are not Sniper rifles |
dr28704 |
Apr-29-10 01:27 PM |
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Unlike any scoped deer rifle. |
PavePusher |
Apr-27-10 02:13 PM |
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Actually, these rifles have fairly short barrels and small diameter bullets fired at high velocity. |
mistertrickster |
Apr-27-10 05:17 PM |
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Showing your ignorance. |
proteus_lives |
Apr-27-10 10:36 PM |
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Less so than actual military sniper rifles like the Winchester Model 70 and Remington Model 700... |
benEzra |
Apr-30-10 10:44 PM |
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That's really all they're good for. |
jeepnstein |
Apr-27-10 10:14 AM |
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I'm not sure sure about it being purely a fighting rifle, anymore. |
Callisto32 |
Apr-27-10 10:34 AM |
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AR rifles are also used for hunting and are becoming quite popular... |
spin |
Apr-27-10 10:50 AM |
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The M1 Garand isn't a "fighting gun"? |
Euromutt |
Apr-27-10 11:40 AM |
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Words have meanings. |
jeepnstein |
Apr-27-10 01:29 PM |
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Not picking |
Katya Mullethov |
Apr-27-10 02:38 PM |
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Well, there I have to agree with you |
Euromutt |
Apr-28-10 03:40 AM |
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They are popular partly because of their modularity, |
Lost4words |
Apr-27-10 10:18 AM |
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In the city I always wished I could legally carry a hand gun |
SPedigrees |
Apr-27-10 10:57 AM |
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I hate to say this ... |
spin |
Apr-27-10 11:43 AM |
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Get over yourself. |
SPedigrees |
Apr-27-10 12:34 PM |
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My daughter has a concealed carry permit ... |
spin |
Apr-27-10 01:57 PM |
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I'm sorry about your daughter and her friend. |
SPedigrees |
Apr-27-10 03:00 PM |
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I believe we both agree on the issue. |
spin |
Apr-27-10 03:22 PM |
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I guess I need to get over myself as well............ |
jazzhound |
Apr-27-10 12:54 PM |
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I recently picked up this .308 "sporting rifle" |
OneTenthofOnePercent |
Apr-27-10 10:48 AM |
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Of course you don't need a wiz bang black rifle |
oneshooter |
Apr-27-10 03:35 PM |
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Wow! |
Glassunion |
Apr-27-10 05:01 PM |
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These videos might interest you ... |
spin |
Apr-27-10 05:52 PM |
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So cool. |
Glassunion |
Apr-27-10 06:36 PM |
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