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jazzhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-10 03:13 AM
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5. It's not surprising to those who've done their homework on this issue
Edited on Fri Apr-02-10 03:18 AM by jazzhound
and are aware that scapegoating guns is the cowardly and lazy man's approach to solving this problem. If you don't want to take it from me, take it from Dr. Gary Kleck -- a lifelong liberal Democrat whose won the highest award bestowed by the American Society of Criminology for his groundbreaking study on defensive gun use. Kleck, and citizens with an education on the relationship between guns and crime realizes that social ills are at the bottom of criminal violence -- not the inanimate tools that criminals use. But of course, it's so much easier to take the lazy feel-good approach and slap on a band-aid with "gun control".

Here's another quote that goes to this point copied from the second article:

“The problems with gun violence start long before the shot the kills someone is fired. Those that stand with me today understand the responsibility to protect all of New Jersey’s citizens. The creation of a broad Newark strategy that employs tools other than traditional policing strategies is necessary to tackle this problem.”
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  -Do MSNBC hosts pay attention to their own guests?! jazzhound  Apr-02-10 02:02 AM   #0 
  - Except gun violence and gun control is a component  sandnsea   Apr-02-10 02:28 AM   #1 
  - Nice try, but 0 points awarded for poor reading and lack of real knowledge  jazzhound   Apr-02-10 03:00 AM   #3 
     - Cute. Dismiss half the article  sandnsea   Apr-02-10 03:08 AM   #4 
        - I've dismissed what deserves to be dismissed  jazzhound   Apr-02-10 03:15 AM   #6 
        - Welcome to DU  Orrex   Apr-02-10 07:16 AM   #8 
        - I'd say getting criminals off the streets is the component.  eqfan592   Apr-02-10 12:00 PM   #15 
        - Oops  sunu   Apr-02-10 12:20 PM   #16 
  - Surprising that he didn't mention this...  ChicagoSuz219   Apr-02-10 02:44 AM   #2 
  - It's not surprising to those who've done their homework on this issue  jazzhound   Apr-02-10 03:13 AM   #5 
  - Yes, yes, your gun is all that is keeping you safe from harm.  aquart   Apr-02-10 04:55 AM   #7 
  - I was nearly hit by a bus yesterday  Orrex   Apr-02-10 07:17 AM   #9 
  - I've never heard a pro 2nd amendment person ever actually say that - have you?  DonP   Apr-02-10 08:59 AM   #11 
  - The not-so-new meme of the gun-controller/banners. Strawman...  SteveM   Apr-02-10 09:03 AM   #12 
  - excellent  Wickerman   Apr-02-10 03:09 PM   #19 
     - "A Gary Kleck worshipper! Yea! Haven't had one of those in ages!"  jazzhound   Apr-02-10 07:32 PM   #23 
  - The article does mention this:  GreenStormCloud   Apr-02-10 07:31 AM   #10 
     - I was replying to the gun guy... n/t  ChicagoSuz219   Apr-02-10 12:27 PM   #17 
     - OOPS. Thread confusion. Happens to me sometimes. N/T  GreenStormCloud   Apr-02-10 01:39 PM   #18 
     - Who is the gun guy?  tburnsten   Apr-02-10 03:18 PM   #20 
        - sandnsea n/t  ChicagoSuz219   Apr-02-10 06:05 PM   #21 
     - Couldn't agree more with this post  jazzhound   Apr-02-10 08:34 PM   #25 
  - Why did you take a swipe at Keith? He had nothing to do with last night  Berry Cool   Apr-02-10 09:20 AM   #13 
  - Sorry, but if you pay attention to Olbermann you know that he's  jazzhound   Apr-02-10 07:18 PM   #22 
  - The only MSNBC host who doesn't listen to his guests is tweety..  X_Digger   Apr-02-10 09:41 AM   #14 
  - Point well made  jazzhound   Apr-02-10 07:33 PM   #24 
  - Iowa = Newark? ahahahahahaha!  Walk away   Apr-02-10 10:32 PM   #26 
     - WTF you talkin' about? Who brought up Iowa? n/t  jazzhound   Apr-02-10 10:51 PM   #27 
        - You did genius!  Walk away   Apr-02-10 10:54 PM   #28 
           - I sure wasn't implying that Iowa = Newark, genius.  jazzhound   Apr-02-10 11:05 PM   #29 
              - You implied that MSNBC only represents Democrats as...  Walk away   Apr-02-10 11:20 PM   #30 
                 - I opened the OP speaking narrowly of Rachel's program and broadened  jazzhound   Apr-02-10 11:31 PM   #31 
 

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