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jazzhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-10 03:00 AM
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3. Nice try, but 0 points awarded for poor reading and lack of real knowledge
on the issue of gun control.

#1) Gun buy-back programs are a joke, and even law enforcement knows this. The only people who take advantage of these programs are law-abiding citizens since the payout for returned firearms is so small. For example, the relative who turns in 'ole Uncle Joe's hunting rifle that has been collecting dust in the attic. You really believe that a criminal who paid at least $300 (minimum) for a semi-automatic pistol is going to jump at the chance to get $100 to turn it in when that pistol can earn many times it's price in hold-up
loot, or save his life from another criminal?

#2) Programs that reward citizens for turning in criminals with illegal guns succeed because the CRIMINAL is off the street -- not just the gun. When was the last time you saw a Springfield XD .40 run into a liquor store and run out with the proceeds from the register?

#3) Keeping gun stores away from schools and other areas where children congregate doesn't do squat, because again -- criminals don't purchase guns from shops. Law abiding citizens do. You really need to be told that criminals buy their guns and ammo on the street?

#4) To date, there is ZERO evidence that there is a correlation between lower crime rates and gun registration.

Here's a quote from the first link you posted:

“We must remember that these numbers are the result of pro-active police work against the narcotics trade, which drives crime in Newark as it does throughout the nation,” Director McCarthy said.

THAT is the salient point of the article and the other article you posted. Getting a grip on the narcotics trade has always been the major factor in significant crime reduction where and when it has occurred.
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  -Do MSNBC hosts pay attention to their own guests?! jazzhound  Apr-02-10 02:02 AM   #0 
  - Except gun violence and gun control is a component  sandnsea   Apr-02-10 02:28 AM   #1 
  - Nice try, but 0 points awarded for poor reading and lack of real knowledge  jazzhound   Apr-02-10 03:00 AM   #3 
     - Cute. Dismiss half the article  sandnsea   Apr-02-10 03:08 AM   #4 
        - I've dismissed what deserves to be dismissed  jazzhound   Apr-02-10 03:15 AM   #6 
        - Welcome to DU  Orrex   Apr-02-10 07:16 AM   #8 
        - I'd say getting criminals off the streets is the component.  eqfan592   Apr-02-10 12:00 PM   #15 
        - Oops  sunu   Apr-02-10 12:20 PM   #16 
  - Surprising that he didn't mention this...  ChicagoSuz219   Apr-02-10 02:44 AM   #2 
  - It's not surprising to those who've done their homework on this issue  jazzhound   Apr-02-10 03:13 AM   #5 
  - Yes, yes, your gun is all that is keeping you safe from harm.  aquart   Apr-02-10 04:55 AM   #7 
  - I was nearly hit by a bus yesterday  Orrex   Apr-02-10 07:17 AM   #9 
  - I've never heard a pro 2nd amendment person ever actually say that - have you?  DonP   Apr-02-10 08:59 AM   #11 
  - The not-so-new meme of the gun-controller/banners. Strawman...  SteveM   Apr-02-10 09:03 AM   #12 
  - excellent  Wickerman   Apr-02-10 03:09 PM   #19 
     - "A Gary Kleck worshipper! Yea! Haven't had one of those in ages!"  jazzhound   Apr-02-10 07:32 PM   #23 
  - The article does mention this:  GreenStormCloud   Apr-02-10 07:31 AM   #10 
     - I was replying to the gun guy... n/t  ChicagoSuz219   Apr-02-10 12:27 PM   #17 
     - OOPS. Thread confusion. Happens to me sometimes. N/T  GreenStormCloud   Apr-02-10 01:39 PM   #18 
     - Who is the gun guy?  tburnsten   Apr-02-10 03:18 PM   #20 
        - sandnsea n/t  ChicagoSuz219   Apr-02-10 06:05 PM   #21 
     - Couldn't agree more with this post  jazzhound   Apr-02-10 08:34 PM   #25 
  - Why did you take a swipe at Keith? He had nothing to do with last night  Berry Cool   Apr-02-10 09:20 AM   #13 
  - Sorry, but if you pay attention to Olbermann you know that he's  jazzhound   Apr-02-10 07:18 PM   #22 
  - The only MSNBC host who doesn't listen to his guests is tweety..  X_Digger   Apr-02-10 09:41 AM   #14 
  - Point well made  jazzhound   Apr-02-10 07:33 PM   #24 
  - Iowa = Newark? ahahahahahaha!  Walk away   Apr-02-10 10:32 PM   #26 
     - WTF you talkin' about? Who brought up Iowa? n/t  jazzhound   Apr-02-10 10:51 PM   #27 
        - You did genius!  Walk away   Apr-02-10 10:54 PM   #28 
           - I sure wasn't implying that Iowa = Newark, genius.  jazzhound   Apr-02-10 11:05 PM   #29 
              - You implied that MSNBC only represents Democrats as...  Walk away   Apr-02-10 11:20 PM   #30 
                 - I opened the OP speaking narrowly of Rachel's program and broadened  jazzhound   Apr-02-10 11:31 PM   #31 
 

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