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OneTenthofOnePercent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-10 08:59 AM
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23. The Sheriff/CLEO does not grant "permission" on an ATF form 4.
The only thing the signature means is that the laws in your area do not prohibit the possession of the NFA device. It is not permission, it is certification of legality. Officials in power just like to relish the idea that it is "their permission"... it is not. Even if you can't obtain a signature, there is a process to take up with the ATF to certify the legality of the item in your area when no bone-headed official in your area will sign your form. It's generally just easier for the ATF (a federal entity) to ask for verification from a local official than to scour city, county, and state laws for certification of legality of hundreds of applications every day.

Several public officials with jurisdiction in your area can sign off too.
State Trooper, Sheriff, Police Chief, District Attorney, State Attorney, Coroner, ...

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  -How much Arms Control Do You Support? LAGC  Mar-01-10 08:52 PM   #0 
  - I do not like handguns. Pure and simple so I said #2  AllyCat   Mar-01-10 08:54 PM   #1 
  - Then you would have no problem  oneshooter   Mar-01-10 09:32 PM   #9 
  - I knew you folks would come out of the wood work on this one  AllyCat   Mar-02-10 12:17 AM   #14 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Mar-02-10 09:20 AM   #26 
     - Right. I'm an elitist who knows nothing of the real world.  AllyCat   Mar-02-10 10:11 AM   #30 
        - Thank you for agreeing with me! n/t  oneshooter   Mar-02-10 10:17 AM   #31 
        - Do you believe that state agenst ought to be allowed to remain armed?  Callisto32   Mar-02-10 03:14 PM   #38 
     - You probably didn't know  DissedByBush   Mar-07-10 11:55 AM   #42 
  - Even if your premise were true,  TPaine7   Mar-01-10 09:47 PM   #10 
  - Okay, how is my premise false?  AllyCat   Mar-02-10 12:18 AM   #15 
     - There are some competition model handguns not well-suited to kill. nt  SteveM   Mar-02-10 08:20 AM   #20 
     - britain does have armed police officers  bossy22   Mar-02-10 08:49 AM   #22 
     - Sometimes, the threat of force alone can achieve the desired result  Euromutt   Mar-02-10 09:20 AM   #27 
     - The purpose for which the vast majority of people purchase guns,  TPaine7   Mar-02-10 11:22 AM   #33 
     - Really? I think you have no idea how much of a Police state Britain has become.  Statistical   Mar-02-10 02:44 PM   #36 
        - yes he does.... on his right hip. nt  RichS   Mar-03-10 01:41 PM   #39 
  - Please explain "no purpose other than to injure and kill people..."  SteveM   Mar-02-10 08:18 AM   #19 
  - #5 n/t  OhioChick   Mar-01-10 08:56 PM   #2 
  - #10.  PavePusher   Mar-01-10 09:08 PM   #3 
  - Even tanks and war-planes?  LAGC   Mar-01-10 09:10 PM   #4 
  - I got room for a Sherman in my garage.  demosincebirth   Mar-01-10 09:23 PM   #5 
  - Both are legal to own now.  oneshooter   Mar-01-10 09:27 PM   #6 
  - But are armaments for said tanks and planes legal to privately own?  LAGC   Mar-01-10 10:38 PM   #11 
  - Yes, artillery is legal to own.  OneTenthofOnePercent   Mar-02-10 09:05 AM   #24 
  - Yes they are, but like the aircraft and armour, they are expensive!  oneshooter   Mar-02-10 09:06 AM   #25 
  - Oh but that Mustang makes me wanna cry.  cherokeeprogressive   Mar-01-10 11:07 PM   #12 
     - I tend to prefer the P-47  oneshooter   Mar-02-10 09:25 AM   #28 
        - Good point. I'm looking at it from a purely aesthetic viewpoint though. None prettier.  cherokeeprogressive   Mar-02-10 11:26 AM   #34 
           - As they say "Beauty is in the eye of the Beholder" n/t  oneshooter   Mar-02-10 02:48 PM   #37 
  - There are people in the U.S. who fly old jet fighters...  spin   Mar-01-10 09:29 PM   #7 
  - Ahh Yes....Those are privatly owned..  virginia mountainman   Mar-01-10 09:32 PM   #8 
  - Why not?  PavePusher   Mar-01-10 11:33 PM   #13 
     - You can own them, but probably not due to the Second Amendment...  SteveM   Mar-02-10 08:30 AM   #21 
  - So, You're Saying That....  tucsonlib   Mar-02-10 12:56 AM   #16 
     - You don't know how right you are.  one-eyed fat man   Mar-02-10 08:15 AM   #18 
        - The Sheriff/CLEO does not grant "permission" on an ATF form 4.  OneTenthofOnePercent   Mar-02-10 08:59 AM   #23 
        - Bingo. nt  rrneck   Mar-02-10 10:06 AM   #29 
  - If I can carry it or mount it on my car...  The Green Manalishi   Mar-02-10 01:03 AM   #17 
  - Other - The restrictions we have at the federal level are slightly too strict  slackmaster   Mar-02-10 11:04 AM   #32 
  - And without the asinine tax.  PavePusher   Mar-02-10 12:57 PM   #35 
     - Or a tax.  Abq_Sarah   Mar-03-10 05:10 PM   #40 
  - I support absolute control  DissedByBush   Mar-07-10 11:53 AM   #41 
  - A very important control which is not listed here -  Mike K   Mar-08-10 01:34 AM   #43 
  - A reasonable point, in the abstract  Euromutt   Mar-08-10 10:49 PM   #44 
  - Here is how I would do it:  Endangered Specie   Mar-10-10 10:23 PM   #45 
  - 100%  YllwFvr   Mar-14-10 10:32 AM   #46 

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