| -Buzz and bullets: Gun fans cheer Starbucks' policy |
friendly_iconoclast |
Feb-28-10 09:08 PM |
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Starbucks is just following the law for now. nt |
Tim01 2.0 |
Feb-28-10 09:12 PM |
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So Starbucks is making a choice |
DissedByBush |
Mar-01-10 12:45 AM |
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Does anyone know if CA is an "open carry" state? I have never had reason |
kestrel91316 |
Feb-28-10 09:22 PM |
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I believe you can carry openly if the gun is unloaded. |
Redneck Socialist |
Feb-28-10 09:27 PM |
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It's probably not legal in city limits. I have never seen anybody other than cops carrying. |
kestrel91316 |
Feb-28-10 09:51 PM |
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Its confusing enough, I would just hand cash to a lawyer and buy the CCW |
Pavulon |
Feb-28-10 09:54 PM |
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The laws in California are a little odd. |
PavePusher |
Mar-01-10 01:37 AM |
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that;s not really a good metric |
paulsby |
Mar-01-10 02:02 AM |
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Yep, unless you contribute enough to your local sheriffs reelection |
Pavulon |
Feb-28-10 09:31 PM |
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I believe virginia has CCW. I like the ccw standard |
Pavulon |
Feb-28-10 09:26 PM |
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One should not have to beg permission from the State... |
PavePusher |
Mar-01-10 01:27 AM |
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I have a CCW but still open carry sometimes. |
Statistical |
Mar-02-10 02:57 PM |
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Banana Frappuccino?!? |
X_Digger |
Feb-28-10 09:29 PM |
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Feb-28-10 09:36 PM |
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Here we go |
cowman |
Feb-28-10 09:40 PM |
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I believe in free speech |
Skittles |
Feb-28-10 09:45 PM |
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But you can. Nothing stopping you. No harm in a rant |
Pavulon |
Feb-28-10 09:47 PM |
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I believe |
cowman |
Feb-28-10 09:57 PM |
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I must be out of the loop |
Skittles |
Feb-28-10 10:11 PM |
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never said |
cowman |
Feb-28-10 10:25 PM |
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Feb-28-10 11:04 PM |
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Correction. |
beevul |
Feb-28-10 11:30 PM |
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the schenck canard |
paulsby |
Mar-01-10 02:04 AM |
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Doesn't mean you wear a gag in public either. |
beevul |
Feb-28-10 11:28 PM |
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But you COULD. |
Callisto32 |
Mar-01-10 07:30 AM |
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Zombies. Who tha fuck cares if a 71 year old man OC's |
Pavulon |
Feb-28-10 09:44 PM |
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Feb-28-10 10:12 PM |
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WTH is a "penae"? |
Tejas |
Feb-28-10 10:52 PM |
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Feb-28-10 10:58 PM |
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Feel free to explain, many would love to |
Tejas |
Feb-28-10 11:01 PM |
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the educated do not need an explanation |
Skittles |
Feb-28-10 11:04 PM |
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Like Vergatario |
Katya Mullethov |
Mar-01-10 08:45 AM |
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Man, I wish I would have told that to my English profs: "it's my own word." |
SteveM |
Mar-01-10 10:41 AM |
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If I may, Skittles, I believe it's "penii". |
salguine |
Feb-28-10 11:26 PM |
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Assuming you're talking about the plural of "penis," it's "penes" |
Euromutt |
Mar-01-10 12:59 AM |
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as I said, it's my own word |
Skittles |
Mar-01-10 02:50 AM |
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Is that related to No. 9 coal? |
SteveM |
Mar-01-10 10:43 AM |
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ooooo, did I miss the dick joke? n/t |
PavePusher |
Mar-01-10 01:38 AM |
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Feb-28-10 10:53 PM |
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Feb-28-10 10:58 PM |
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Of course, that conveniently ignores those who do so to make a political statement. |
beevul |
Feb-28-10 11:34 PM |
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It's hard to interrupt the smugness isn't? |
proteus_lives |
Feb-28-10 11:59 PM |
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I never knew there were so many Freudians on DU |
friendly_iconoclast |
Feb-28-10 11:52 PM |
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The one thing no one ever mentions |
MichaelHarris |
Mar-01-10 12:15 AM |
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No, you're supposed to think that they have a chance to protect themselves |
friendly_iconoclast |
Mar-01-10 12:45 AM |
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Here's one. |
Hoopla Phil |
Mar-01-10 01:12 AM |
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it;'s generally difficult to statistically determine a PREVENTED |
paulsby |
Mar-01-10 02:06 AM |
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Here's another |
Hoopla Phil |
Mar-01-10 01:13 AM |
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What do you mean "no one ever mentions"? |
Euromutt |
Mar-01-10 04:09 AM |
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Take your bait elsewhere. |
Callisto32 |
Mar-01-10 07:34 AM |
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Ah yes |
cowman |
Mar-01-10 08:49 AM |
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Yes, sure, uh huh, of course, and you don't lock your doors at night either |
Tejas |
Feb-28-10 11:16 PM |
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Yeah, political protest is dumb. |
proteus_lives |
Mar-01-10 12:00 AM |
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Overheard in a Mississippi Starbuck's: "I told ya, I wanted decaf skinny dangit!" BLAM! |
Aristus |
Feb-28-10 09:55 PM |
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And yet |
cowman |
Feb-28-10 09:59 PM |
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Feb-28-10 10:04 PM |
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Well just |
cowman |
Feb-28-10 10:30 PM |
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See reply #23 below. (BTW what are you afraid of by hiding your profile?) |
FailureToCommunicate |
Feb-28-10 10:36 PM |
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Not afraid of |
cowman |
Feb-28-10 10:45 PM |
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Meanwhile, while you wait and wait for that hoped-for criminal whose head you can't wait |
Aristus |
Mar-01-10 10:01 AM |
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You are assuming |
cowman |
Mar-01-10 10:24 AM |
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And I |
cowman |
Mar-01-10 10:28 AM |
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Another budding Freud, here?... |
SteveM |
Mar-01-10 11:05 AM |
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All freedoms come at a price. The world isn't made of Nerf. |
GreenStormCloud |
Mar-01-10 11:23 AM |
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I |
cowman |
Mar-01-10 11:32 AM |
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How many people... |
PavePusher |
Mar-01-10 11:58 AM |
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I give that post 8 outta 10 just for the hyperbolic projectile spoogery |
Katya Mullethov |
Mar-01-10 06:21 PM |
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Feb-28-10 10:35 PM |
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Feb-28-10 10:42 PM |
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"Go to an emergency room" - maybe you should |
Tejas |
Feb-28-10 11:26 PM |
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I know |
cowman |
Feb-28-10 11:31 PM |
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There is, litterally a world of difference between the two cultures. |
PavePusher |
Mar-01-10 01:41 AM |
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Violence is not a function of the weapons available so much as one of culture. |
Callisto32 |
Mar-01-10 07:38 AM |
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Thus, at worst, armed private citizens don't worsen the situation |
Euromutt |
Mar-01-10 09:06 AM |
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Feb-28-10 10:31 PM |
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Cave? |
cowman |
Feb-28-10 10:34 PM |
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Gosh, snappy comeback. You should get a participation ribbon! |
FailureToCommunicate |
Feb-28-10 10:38 PM |
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Feb-28-10 10:43 PM |
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It's actually used a lot around here. You need to pay more attention. But I can tell |
FailureToCommunicate |
Feb-28-10 10:52 PM |
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I appreciate it |
cowman |
Feb-28-10 10:56 PM |
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Ditto. 10-34 |
FailureToCommunicate |
Mar-01-10 08:50 AM |
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Feb-28-10 11:30 PM |
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Feb-28-10 10:59 PM |
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In spite of record gun sales... |
beevul |
Feb-28-10 11:37 PM |
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Thank you for the obligatory "Blood in the booths" post. |
friendly_iconoclast |
Feb-28-10 11:57 PM |
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Igorant..... |
proteus_lives |
Mar-01-10 12:00 AM |
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Spell-Check, man...... 8>) |
PavePusher |
Mar-01-10 02:05 AM |
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ah, the need canard |
paulsby |
Mar-01-10 02:07 AM |
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We live in Somalia? |
Callisto32 |
Mar-01-10 07:35 AM |
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Hell, you don't say that crap to the Barista in the shop where I go... |
SteveM |
Mar-01-10 10:51 AM |
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Now that's a real wild-west kind of drink. |
TheCowsCameHome |
Feb-28-10 10:18 PM |
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A Couple of Months Ago |
DallasNE |
Feb-28-10 10:58 PM |
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If the |
cowman |
Feb-28-10 11:04 PM |
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If they were in a bar, or a 51% establishment |
oneshooter |
Mar-01-10 08:02 AM |
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If the outcome is "oh so predictable," then you must have several links? |
SteveM |
Mar-01-10 11:11 AM |
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I love banana and banana flavored stuff, but the idea of a banana frappuccino |
tammywammy |
Feb-28-10 11:02 PM |
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I myself |
cowman |
Feb-28-10 11:18 PM |
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nah............ |
one-eyed fat man |
Mar-01-10 08:21 AM |
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I don't think there actually is a banana frappucino |
Euromutt |
Mar-01-10 04:23 AM |
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Oh Yay. |
kurtzapril4 |
Feb-28-10 11:05 PM |
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Feb-28-10 11:11 PM |
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Feb-28-10 11:19 PM |
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100% agree |
cowman |
Feb-28-10 11:22 PM |
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saddam allowed the general public |
scottsoperson |
Feb-28-10 11:30 PM |
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It's called 'freedom'. Adjust. |
friendly_iconoclast |
Mar-01-10 12:16 AM |
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You paint with a very broad brush. |
PavePusher |
Mar-01-10 01:45 AM |
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Nobody ever "just snaps" |
Euromutt |
Mar-01-10 05:34 AM |
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Why would they "confront" you? |
mvccd1000 |
Mar-01-10 07:33 AM |
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Funny. |
Callisto32 |
Mar-01-10 07:45 AM |
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Well don't worry about that happening in Illinois |
oneshooter |
Mar-01-10 08:09 AM |
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Have you ever been "confronted" with someone who is armed? |
SteveM |
Mar-01-10 11:28 AM |
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"What safety measures does Starbucks have to protect those of us who don't carry firearms?" |
PavePusher |
Mar-01-10 12:03 PM |
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Just another reason not to darken the doorway of a StarBucks. Nt |
xchrom |
Feb-28-10 11:35 PM |
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starbucks now has sort of free |
scottsoperson |
Feb-28-10 11:37 PM |
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I never visited a StarBucks but I will now ... |
spin |
Mar-01-10 12:54 AM |
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i open carry almost every day |
paulsby |
Mar-01-10 02:10 AM |
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Starbucks doesn't just do espresso-based drinks |
Euromutt |
Mar-01-10 04:16 AM |
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I agree on the coffee part, but here is a suggestion. |
Callisto32 |
Mar-01-10 07:58 AM |
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Will do (n/t) |
spin |
Mar-01-10 09:59 AM |
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Was it this guy? |
onehandle |
Feb-28-10 11:59 PM |
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Why wouldn't people be? |
depakid |
Mar-01-10 12:05 AM |
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The high, whiny voice of the ex-pat..... |
proteus_lives |
Mar-01-10 12:09 AM |
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Just telling it like it is |
depakid |
Mar-01-10 01:02 AM |
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doesn't take much to please simple-minded folk |
Skittles |
Mar-01-10 02:51 AM |
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He symbolizes the US the way Pauline Hanson used to for Australia |
friendly_iconoclast |
Mar-01-10 09:52 AM |
#133 |
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Funny huh? |
proteus_lives |
Mar-01-10 10:24 PM |
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about half of crime guns |
scottsoperson |
Mar-01-10 12:06 AM |
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Link Please. |
proteus_lives |
Mar-01-10 12:10 AM |
#74 |
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Care to back that statement of fact with a link proving it? |
Hoopla Phil |
Mar-01-10 01:04 AM |
#86 |
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Wow!!! You may want to call the FBI right away! |
DonP |
Mar-01-10 08:56 AM |
#131 |
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Umm.. try again.. |
X_Digger |
Mar-01-10 11:04 AM |
#142 |
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violence is not the answer |
scottsoperson |
Mar-01-10 12:05 AM |
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Lawful violence IS the answer to unlawful violence. I agree half way with you. |
Hoopla Phil |
Mar-01-10 01:05 AM |
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Depending upon the question, violence may very well be the only answer. N/T |
GreenStormCloud |
Mar-01-10 04:01 PM |
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Good. |
proteus_lives |
Mar-01-10 12:02 AM |
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Mar-01-10 12:20 AM |
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If you support the rules of D.U. why then do so many of your posts get deleted? |
Hoopla Phil |
Mar-01-10 12:57 AM |
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guess it is time people stop going to starbucks if they don't want to be shot n/t |
2Design |
Mar-01-10 01:02 AM |
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Or if they just wish to take out their 2A rights and exercise them for a while. |
Hoopla Phil |
Mar-01-10 01:07 AM |
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if there are no guns in the area you are visiting or living or walking - then you will not get shot |
2Design |
Mar-01-10 01:12 AM |
#89 |
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OK, I'll play your fantasy game and we wave the magic wand and POOF. There |
Hoopla Phil |
Mar-01-10 01:24 AM |
#92 |
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"sorry I don't believe in all this legalizing guns everywhere" |
PavePusher |
Mar-01-10 01:51 AM |
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Did you know weed is illegal so is coke. Seems with minor "criminal" effort |
Pavulon |
Mar-01-10 07:03 AM |
#113 |
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Are you being intentionally obtuse? |
Callisto32 |
Mar-01-10 08:05 AM |
#123 |
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Pure theory based on a prohibitionist's dream, as in... |
SteveM |
Mar-01-10 11:49 AM |
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So getting beaten, clubed, stapped, etc., is better? |
GreenStormCloud |
Mar-01-10 04:07 PM |
#181 |
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Have there been a lot of shootings at Starbuck's across the nation? |
PavePusher |
Mar-01-10 01:47 AM |
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Who needs facts when you've got |
armueller2001 |
Mar-01-10 04:56 PM |
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There is no CCL or open carry in Canada, so why worry? n/t |
oneshooter |
Mar-01-10 08:15 AM |
#125 |
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Why worry, there is no CCL or open carry in Canada. n/t |
oneshooter |
Mar-01-10 08:19 AM |
#126 |
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Hey, you're free to boycott. Try it. As for me, I don't use Starbucks... |
SteveM |
Mar-01-10 11:42 AM |
#152 |
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Makes me feel like I'm living in a police state |
Confusious |
Mar-01-10 03:08 AM |
#108 |
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I don't know. If you live in fear of a police state, only you can explain. nt |
SteveM |
Mar-01-10 11:52 AM |
#154 |
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Oy, |
Callisto32 |
Mar-01-10 07:27 AM |
#114 |
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And the gun sickness just gets worse and worse |
K8-EEE |
Mar-01-10 10:53 AM |
#141 |
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I'm going to ask you what I asked Aristus earlier |
Euromutt |
Mar-01-10 11:14 AM |
#147 |
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Ah yes |
cowman |
Mar-01-10 11:26 AM |
#149 |
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Gosh, your precognition must work much better than mine... |
PavePusher |
Mar-01-10 12:06 PM |
#157 |
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And the crime rate keeps dropping and dropping. |
GreenStormCloud |
Mar-01-10 04:12 PM |
#182 |
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Well, at least now, the old excuse of "not having his coffee" yet, will be eliminated...nt |
Javaman |
Mar-01-10 11:07 AM |
#144 |
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Won't someone think of the coffee???? nt |
Javaman |
Mar-01-10 11:10 AM |
#145 |
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Frequently. |
ManiacJoe |
Mar-01-10 11:04 PM |
#208 |
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Who's most likely to be killed by your gun ... statistics from NY Times |
mainer |
Mar-01-10 12:09 PM |
#158 |
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O.K., what's your point? |
PavePusher |
Mar-01-10 12:14 PM |
#159 |
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gun ownership does seem correlated to higher suicide rates |
mainer |
Mar-01-10 12:22 PM |
#162 |
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I was urging you to look up suicide rates in other countries. |
PavePusher |
Mar-01-10 12:25 PM |
#166 |
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I don't have reliable statistics outside our country |
mainer |
Mar-01-10 12:29 PM |
#168 |
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Maybe so, but would their overall suicide rate go up? |
PavePusher |
Mar-01-10 12:36 PM |
#169 |
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It probably wouldn't change the number of suicide ATTEMPTS |
mainer |
Mar-01-10 12:42 PM |
#171 |
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To be coldly pragmatic about this... |
PavePusher |
Mar-01-10 12:53 PM |
#175 |
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If I don't know the people, well, okay. I understand cold pragmatism. |
mainer |
Mar-01-10 05:08 PM |
#190 |
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If she had owned a gun, she would not have used it in her suicide attempt. |
GreenStormCloud |
Mar-01-10 05:17 PM |
#196 |
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She did a pretty damn good job of it with the car. |
mainer |
Mar-01-10 05:23 PM |
#198 |
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I will agree that the car was a real attempt. |
GreenStormCloud |
Mar-02-10 10:19 AM |
#210 |
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You accept that international cultural differences affect suicide rates |
Euromutt |
Mar-02-10 06:03 AM |
#209 |
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Correlation != causation.. |
X_Digger |
Mar-01-10 12:40 PM |
#170 |
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I'm not saying guns CAUSE suicides |
mainer |
Mar-01-10 12:44 PM |
#172 |
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Ahh, but that's not what the JT Article asserts.. |
X_Digger |
Mar-01-10 12:47 PM |
#173 |
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The journal only looks at successful suicides |
mainer |
Mar-01-10 12:49 PM |
#174 |
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True, but.. |
X_Digger |
Mar-01-10 01:08 PM |
#176 |
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"Who's most likely to be killed by your gun" is still the correct phrase |
mainer |
Mar-01-10 01:35 PM |
#177 |
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Sure, but that is taking the assertion as a given. |
X_Digger |
Mar-01-10 03:05 PM |
#178 |
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But you want to control MY gun, so that makes it personal for me. |
GreenStormCloud |
Mar-01-10 04:22 PM |
#183 |
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I don't care about you and your gun. |
mainer |
Mar-01-10 04:56 PM |
#185 |
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But the laws you support regarding guns do effect me. |
GreenStormCloud |
Mar-01-10 05:14 PM |
#192 |
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I don't support any new gun laws. When did I say that? |
mainer |
Mar-01-10 05:15 PM |
#194 |
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In general, a person who is against guns in their own family... |
GreenStormCloud |
Mar-02-10 10:21 AM |
#211 |
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I'm against motorcycles in my own family, too. |
mainer |
Mar-02-10 02:33 PM |
#213 |
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OK, I will withdraw the accusation that you support great gun control. |
GreenStormCloud |
Mar-03-10 06:22 AM |
#215 |
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Gee |
cowman |
Mar-01-10 12:16 PM |
#160 |
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The real tragedy of gun ownership is how often guns kill their owners |
mainer |
Mar-01-10 12:18 PM |
#161 |
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Or rope, or cars (speed or exhaust)... |
PavePusher |
Mar-01-10 12:22 PM |
#163 |
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No. But guns are the easiest and most effective. |
mainer |
Mar-01-10 12:24 PM |
#164 |
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And I |
cowman |
Mar-01-10 12:29 PM |
#167 |
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No massive overdose of tylenol and some wine |
Pavulon |
Mar-01-10 05:02 PM |
#188 |
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Massive dose of tylenol is treatable |
mainer |
Mar-01-10 05:06 PM |
#189 |
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This is true |
cowman |
Mar-01-10 05:16 PM |
#195 |
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the point of mucomyst is that it prevents liver damage |
mainer |
Mar-01-10 05:18 PM |
#197 |
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Ok I will |
cowman |
Mar-01-10 05:25 PM |
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You should've seen the guy who died from fireworks |
mainer |
Mar-01-10 05:42 PM |
#201 |
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I will only ride a motorcycle on a race track |
Pavulon |
Mar-01-10 05:47 PM |
#202 |
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I used to |
cowman |
Mar-01-10 06:38 PM |
#204 |
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You can't |
cowman |
Mar-01-10 12:25 PM |
#165 |
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You are badly misinformed on your statistics. |
GreenStormCloud |
Mar-01-10 04:47 PM |
#184 |
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I don't worry about him being violent toward others. He's not. |
mainer |
Mar-01-10 04:59 PM |
#187 |
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Did you ignore the FBI statistics that I gave you? |
GreenStormCloud |
Mar-01-10 05:11 PM |
#191 |
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Right, it's so easy to get a basket of asps these days. |
mainer |
Mar-01-10 05:14 PM |
#193 |
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That seems reasonable, but... |
LAGC |
Mar-01-10 07:49 PM |
#205 |
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I am not making that assumption. Sorry if it seemed that I were. |
GreenStormCloud |
Mar-01-10 09:47 PM |
#206 |
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There a many extra factors to consider. |
GreenStormCloud |
Mar-02-10 10:32 AM |
#212 |
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The silence |
GeorgeGist |
Mar-01-10 03:44 PM |
#179 |
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