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Thu Feb-04-10 01:28 PM
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| 46. Extremely misleading, IMO. |
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If 1,000,000 people die every year of age related diseases like cancer and heart disease, but 30,000 die from being shot, saying that 30000 is only a small percentage of total deaths is true, but dying of diseases of old age is not something we could potentially stop.
Exclude the elderly and recheck the results. From the article: Age differences In 2005, the leading causes of death varied substantially by age group (Table 1). However, there were some general similarities by broad age group in the pattern of leading causes. For the population aged 1–44 years, the leading cause of death was unintentional injuries. Homicide and suicide were also important causes of death in this broad age category: Homicide was consistently one of the top five causes of death in the population aged 1–34 years, and suicide was a top five killer in the 10–44 age group. The proportion of deaths due to unintentional injuries, homicide, and suicide combined ranged from 31 percent to 75 percent in the age groups among those 1–44 years.
---- I mean really, if 20,000 infants died every year, and 10,000 died from eating poisoned toys from China, would you say poisoned toys from China are not much of a concern since those 10,000 deaths are only a tiny fraction of the total?
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| -Leading causes of deaths in the US.....guns near the bottom of the list... |
rd_kent |
Feb-04-10 11:48 AM |
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The fact that Accidental Discharge of Firearms is above DROWNING is shocking |
Kurt_and_Hunter |
Feb-04-10 11:51 AM |
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Really? In what way? |
rd_kent |
Feb-04-10 11:53 AM |
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They should not simply be rare, but obsolete...n/t |
joeybee12 |
Feb-04-10 11:54 AM |
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Riiigghht....Lets work on those motor vehicle deaths first, they kill more people. |
rd_kent |
Feb-04-10 12:11 PM |
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And those accidental FALLS should get some attention too, gotta stop those falls! |
rd_kent |
Feb-04-10 12:18 PM |
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All you have to do is uninvent guns. N/T |
GreenStormCloud |
Feb-04-10 01:08 PM |
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I think this is about how you frame it- |
burrfoot |
Feb-04-10 12:03 PM |
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The fact that FALLING is above firearms is shocking... |
rd_kent |
Feb-04-10 12:18 PM |
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Stairs embolden falling! |
proteus_lives |
Feb-04-10 11:01 PM |
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We should |
rrneck |
Feb-04-10 11:37 PM |
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That table doesn't list the causes by frequency of occurrence |
Euromutt |
Feb-04-10 07:39 PM |
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But how often are you around water you could drown in? |
Tim01 |
Feb-04-10 08:00 PM |
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And...per capita...how do we compare with Canada and Britain??? NOT well. nt |
Captain Hilts |
Feb-04-10 11:57 AM |
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While it's interesting to |
burrfoot |
Feb-04-10 12:09 PM |
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In some sense, true. But Canadians and Brits watch the same programs, listen to the same music... |
Captain Hilts |
Feb-04-10 12:16 PM |
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And have 1/10th the population, and 1/10th the population density |
X_Digger |
Feb-04-10 12:21 PM |
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British pop. density is fairly high... |
PavePusher |
Feb-04-10 07:12 PM |
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I grant your premise- |
burrfoot |
Feb-04-10 12:31 PM |
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Actually, I want to know |
NoNothing |
Feb-04-10 12:12 PM |
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Here is a link. Since the gun ban in Britain, HANDGUN crime has RISEN! |
rd_kent |
Feb-04-10 12:41 PM |
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Firearms shows up three times on that list. |
sharesunited |
Feb-04-10 12:09 PM |
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interesting that you make that conclusion, because it just wrong. |
rd_kent |
Feb-04-10 12:16 PM |
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I recognize that they pose a threat in three categories. Making the problem rather urgent! |
sharesunited |
Feb-04-10 12:25 PM |
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Only in your head, shares, only in your head. |
rd_kent |
Feb-04-10 12:28 PM |
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I don't think that's particularly relevant, |
burrfoot |
Feb-04-10 12:21 PM |
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Here ya go, have a look for yourself. |
rd_kent |
Feb-04-10 12:29 PM |
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Thanks for the link! |
burrfoot |
Feb-04-10 12:38 PM |
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A versatile implement of death. True? Or just emotional? |
sharesunited |
Feb-04-10 12:31 PM |
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Dude, you really make no sense sometimes |
rd_kent |
Feb-04-10 12:38 PM |
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I already possess the knowledge that bullets entering your body are bad for your health. |
sharesunited |
Feb-04-10 12:41 PM |
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So is falling down and drowning and driving a car, whats your point? |
rd_kent |
Feb-04-10 12:42 PM |
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Those only parallel the "accidental" category. And they all give you a fighting chance. |
sharesunited |
Feb-04-10 12:44 PM |
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As usual, you make no sense. |
rd_kent |
Feb-04-10 12:51 PM |
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People can't commit suicide by drowning or vehicles? |
OneTenthofOnePercent |
Feb-04-10 01:12 PM |
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Drowning does not give you a fighting chance. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Feb-04-10 01:12 PM |
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Perhaps you advocate letting everyone buy body armor. |
OneTenthofOnePercent |
Feb-04-10 01:14 PM |
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Then, as luck would have it, shot in the head. Oh well. |
sharesunited |
Feb-04-10 01:20 PM |
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You wacth too many movies. |
OneTenthofOnePercent |
Feb-04-10 01:53 PM |
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Ooooh that's a tricky one. |
burrfoot |
Feb-04-10 12:47 PM |
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The user is everything, and having guns available makes that too deadly a crapshoot to tolerate. |
sharesunited |
Feb-04-10 12:49 PM |
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But why is it that you only |
burrfoot |
Feb-04-10 01:05 PM |
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Everyone is observing the policy in the UK and Australia. |
sharesunited |
Feb-04-10 01:14 PM |
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As usual, you are wrong. Her are some hard facts for you, shares. |
rd_kent |
Feb-04-10 01:55 PM |
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You should probably move then. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Feb-04-10 01:13 PM |
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Murder versus accident versus suicide. Three different deaths, categorically speaking. |
OneTenthofOnePercent |
Feb-04-10 01:09 PM |
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"Gun control " is less about guns and more about control. n/t |
oneshooter |
Feb-04-10 01:37 PM |
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For hoplophobes, it's all about the guns. n/t |
OneTenthofOnePercent |
Feb-04-10 01:58 PM |
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Salmonella? Really? Hmmm. I'll have to be less lax about food prep and storage. I will |
GreenPartyVoter |
Feb-04-10 12:13 PM |
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Actually, you're wrong in how this report is presenting. Table C shows the |
sinkingfeeling |
Feb-04-10 12:25 PM |
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What? The only numbers in his post are the ranking #'s of the causes. n/t |
burrfoot |
Feb-04-10 12:32 PM |
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The OP lists 113 selected caused of death, the ones with a '#' were the selected 50. |
sinkingfeeling |
Feb-05-10 03:00 PM |
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Im not following you. |
rd_kent |
Feb-04-10 12:36 PM |
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See above reply. You're mis-reading the report. |
sinkingfeeling |
Feb-05-10 03:01 PM |
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I'm going to ask this, purely out of curiosity- |
burrfoot |
Feb-04-10 12:49 PM |
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I have noticed that too. All gungeon threads get automatic unrecs... |
GreenStormCloud |
Feb-04-10 01:14 PM |
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K&R...I like interesting gun posts so I'll cancel out the un-rec. (n/t) |
spin |
Feb-04-10 01:19 PM |
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Extremely misleading, IMO. |
denverbill |
Feb-04-10 01:28 PM |
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You think that unintentional injuries are all caused by guns? |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Feb-04-10 11:11 PM |
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Yes, that's precisely what I said. Only using different words and meanings somehow. |
denverbill |
Feb-05-10 01:54 PM |
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There is no need to speculate all the information is available. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Feb-05-10 02:46 PM |
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Very fair question. |
AtheistCrusader |
Feb-06-10 01:17 AM |
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You're looking at Table A, which isn't ordered by number of deaths |
Euromutt |
Feb-04-10 07:34 PM |
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Not exactly, |
russ1943 |
Feb-05-10 11:48 PM |
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OP |
russ1943 |
Feb-08-10 12:07 AM |
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