GreenStormCloud
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Sun Jan-10-10 06:05 AM
Response to Reply #85 |
| 86. That's your choice, and I can respect that. |
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Most of the gunnies here on the forum will also respect your choice. But it is YOUR choice for you. I, and the rest of the gunnies, have decided that we believe the more moral choice is to resist violence with greater violence. The difference is that our violence is controlled and unleased only in defense. We don't seek out innocent victims. We attempt to avoid situations where violence is likely, but if trouble come to us, we will not lie down for it.
We ask only that you respect our right to choose effective self-defense for ourselves.
Yes, it does mean that we will bring the guns to bear before we are killed. . We will do it while our own deaths are a serious threat, and not yet a reality. After all, it is somewhat difficult to defend oneself after one is dead. We do not feel that we are required to die hoping that our attacker will let us live.
Ronald Goldman made a choice similar to yours. He, and Nicole, died.
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Glassunion |
Jan-07-10 11:37 PM |
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I see that the "anti" folks are already here |
OffWithTheirHeads |
Jan-07-10 11:48 PM |
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They never miss |
Old Codger |
Jan-08-10 12:02 AM |
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From what I remember of the oath and motto, I think |
cognoscere |
Jan-08-10 11:43 AM |
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And sticky from the donuts |
Glassunion |
Jan-08-10 11:48 AM |
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Welcome to DU |
TPaine7 |
Jan-07-10 11:57 PM |
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Pop quiz? |
Glassunion |
Jan-08-10 01:38 PM |
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great post. i don't go out |
DesertFlower |
Jan-08-10 12:03 AM |
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.38 is not big enough. You need at least a 9mm. 45 ACP is better |
OffWithTheirHeads |
Jan-08-10 12:17 AM |
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Here come the gun site caliber wars... |
pipoman |
Jan-08-10 08:09 AM |
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Better to hit with a smaller caliber than to miss with a larger one |
Euromutt |
Jan-08-10 09:26 AM |
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I agree with that. |
pipoman |
Jan-08-10 07:43 PM |
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The gun you have is far better than the gun you don't ... |
spin |
Jan-08-10 12:23 PM |
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Glad you survived, this is why I carry pepper spray. |
uppityperson |
Jan-08-10 12:18 AM |
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What if the threat is upwind of you on a windy night? N/T |
GreenStormCloud |
Jan-08-10 08:34 AM |
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Then I get hurt. Can't prevent everything and I make my choices. nt |
uppityperson |
Jan-08-10 01:17 PM |
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You gave an honest answer. |
GreenStormCloud |
Jan-08-10 01:39 PM |
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I think you would change your mind if you actually were the victim of someone trying to kill you |
tburnsten |
Jan-12-10 09:50 AM |
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Welcome to the DU!! |
eqfan592 |
Jan-08-10 12:33 AM |
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And how long are you going to live your life based on a decision made |
RaleighNCDUer |
Jan-08-10 12:39 AM |
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You are still scared of guns. When are you going to get over it? |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Jan-08-10 12:40 AM |
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I am not now, nor ever have been afraid of guns. |
RaleighNCDUer |
Jan-08-10 12:49 AM |
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MMMkay. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Jan-08-10 12:49 AM |
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You just live in judgment of others. |
proteus_lives |
Jan-08-10 02:20 AM |
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What judgement? |
RaleighNCDUer |
Jan-08-10 10:16 AM |
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There can be a number of reasons for the delay in his decision. |
GreenStormCloud |
Jan-08-10 02:03 PM |
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You are talking about a delay in implementation, not a delay in deciding. |
RaleighNCDUer |
Jan-08-10 02:39 PM |
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It is hard to make a decision to do something if you don't have the means. |
GreenStormCloud |
Jan-08-10 02:55 PM |
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Theft isn't a legitimate reason to shoot someone |
tburnsten |
Jan-12-10 10:20 AM |
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You really have a thing about fear -- in others: |
SteveM |
Jan-08-10 08:24 AM |
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You can take precautions without being prepared to deal death |
RaleighNCDUer |
Jan-08-10 10:30 AM |
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Um.... |
burrfoot |
Jan-08-10 11:49 AM |
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Read through the thread - I did ask him, and we are having a nice discussion |
RaleighNCDUer |
Jan-08-10 12:00 PM |
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I'll grant you that he's |
burrfoot |
Jan-08-10 12:18 PM |
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But nobody said they were watching for an attack that the "know" is coming. |
eqfan592 |
Jan-08-10 12:41 PM |
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And what, exactly, is the difference between the attack you |
RaleighNCDUer |
Jan-08-10 01:16 PM |
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Being a rational person capable of examining the probabilities of those situations... |
eqfan592 |
Jan-08-10 01:49 PM |
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The difference between a certainty and a possibility is vast... |
PavePusher |
Jan-08-10 03:51 PM |
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Simply because you have not been attacked at an ATM is no guarantee that you won't be. |
GreenStormCloud |
Jan-08-10 02:19 PM |
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Being prepared to avoid possible death... |
PavePusher |
Jan-08-10 09:10 AM |
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That doesn't really make much sense at all. |
eqfan592 |
Jan-08-10 12:43 AM |
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Not a snide comment at all. The incident happened when he was |
RaleighNCDUer |
Jan-08-10 01:03 AM |
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A few points. |
eqfan592 |
Jan-08-10 01:25 AM |
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Ask anybody who has been mugged. Muggers are cowards. They |
RaleighNCDUer |
Jan-08-10 01:40 AM |
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It is well known that muggers select people who appear like they aren't aware. |
GreenStormCloud |
Jan-08-10 08:50 AM |
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As I suspected. |
eqfan592 |
Jan-08-10 08:59 AM |
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So are you saying that cowardly muggings don't kill? |
OttavaKarhu |
Jan-11-10 04:05 AM |
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The old "the bad guys will take the gun away and use it one you" canard. |
GreenStormCloud |
Jan-08-10 08:45 AM |
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Read it again. The first clue that they were attacking him was when |
RaleighNCDUer |
Jan-08-10 09:52 AM |
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Actually, if he had been more situationally aware.... |
eqfan592 |
Jan-08-10 10:37 AM |
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Wrong. The first clue was them suddenly turning around |
tburnsten |
Jan-12-10 10:18 AM |
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So, you are claiming that he is over-reacting to nearly being beaten to death. |
PavePusher |
Jan-08-10 09:12 AM |
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Forever. |
Glassunion |
Jan-08-10 12:44 AM |
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I thought as much. nt |
RaleighNCDUer |
Jan-08-10 12:51 AM |
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Please explain... |
Glassunion |
Jan-08-10 01:00 AM |
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See my reply #16 above. |
RaleighNCDUer |
Jan-08-10 01:20 AM |
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Ok... |
Glassunion |
Jan-08-10 01:39 AM |
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Well, get a few more years on you and you'll understand that 18 IS a kid - |
RaleighNCDUer |
Jan-08-10 01:49 AM |
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Yea, because we all know |
pipoman |
Jan-08-10 05:41 AM |
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There's that crypto-psychology again -- used as a weapon ... |
SteveM |
Jan-08-10 08:35 AM |
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"If you got through your 20s without needing a weapon, you certainly don't need one now..." |
PavePusher |
Jan-08-10 09:15 AM |
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Perhaps in your eyes I will never be a grown up |
Glassunion |
Jan-08-10 11:08 AM |
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What I'm saying is, teens through late twenties, early thirties is a violent |
RaleighNCDUer |
Jan-08-10 11:53 AM |
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I still cannot agree with armchair psychology |
Glassunion |
Jan-08-10 01:19 PM |
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Of course, nobody can guarantee anything. |
RaleighNCDUer |
Jan-08-10 03:33 PM |
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Not to butt in.... |
eqfan592 |
Jan-08-10 03:39 PM |
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A thought on thoughts |
Glassunion |
Jan-08-10 04:28 PM |
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If there was an award for Excellence in Posting... |
PavePusher |
Jan-08-10 04:33 PM |
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Agreed! |
eqfan592 |
Jan-08-10 04:43 PM |
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Thanks... I'm just trying to keep them under 10,000 words or less :) |
Glassunion |
Jan-08-10 04:47 PM |
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Wait, you typed that all out on an iPhone!?! |
eqfan592 |
Jan-08-10 04:56 PM |
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It is not that hard. |
Glassunion |
Jan-09-10 09:09 AM |
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Fuckin' A man; Fuckin' A. |
burrfoot |
Jan-10-10 02:09 AM |
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Very well put. Thank you. |
RaleighNCDUer |
Jan-10-10 03:45 AM |
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That's your choice, and I can respect that. |
GreenStormCloud |
Jan-10-10 06:05 AM |
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I understand and support your choice... |
PavePusher |
Jan-11-10 08:56 AM |
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A bit of a contiuation of my journey... |
Glassunion |
Jan-11-10 11:26 AM |
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Damn, I wish we could rec individual posts. |
PavePusher |
Jan-11-10 06:04 PM |
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Thanks |
Glassunion |
Jan-12-10 09:40 AM |
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If he kicked in your door and you shot him. it wouldn't be killing him over a woman |
tburnsten |
Jan-12-10 11:10 AM |
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Great crystal ball that you have. |
GreenStormCloud |
Jan-08-10 09:05 AM |
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Adults get attacked too, not just kids. N/T |
GreenStormCloud |
Jan-08-10 08:35 AM |
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You learn lessons from life ... |
spin |
Jan-08-10 12:34 PM |
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Would it matter if he had been beat up as an adult? |
gorfle |
Jan-10-10 11:21 AM |
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My position on Guns has changed... |
mmarsh |
Jan-08-10 02:07 AM |
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Sounds like a rational decision to me. (n/t) |
spin |
Jan-08-10 01:41 PM |
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Great post! Welcome to DU! |
proteus_lives |
Jan-08-10 02:31 AM |
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I carry for one very simple reason |
taurus145 |
Jan-08-10 05:56 AM |
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This old granny agrees with you. These times require that we |
Paper Roses |
Jan-08-10 06:00 AM |
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Pepper spray can be ordered over the internet. |
GreenStormCloud |
Jan-08-10 09:13 AM |
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Yep yep :) |
eqfan592 |
Jan-08-10 09:15 AM |
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Buy it online: |
TPaine7 |
Jan-08-10 11:17 AM |
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I agree... |
Dappleganger |
Jan-08-10 11:30 AM |
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Hey Paper Roses, my mother, all of 78 yrs old |
oneshooter |
Jan-08-10 05:19 PM |
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Thank you... |
Glassunion |
Jan-08-10 06:30 PM |
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Welcome, and thanks for sharing your story. |
burrfoot |
Jan-08-10 10:48 AM |
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To me it boils down to a few simple answers |
oneshooter |
Jan-08-10 05:22 PM |
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Congratulations on emerging empowered. |
OttavaKarhu |
Jan-11-10 04:01 AM |
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.410 derringer. Very similar reasons. |
Tim01 |
Jan-11-10 10:22 AM |
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I'm with you on this one- |
burrfoot |
Jan-11-10 04:33 PM |
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