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SteveM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 01:10 PM
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48. I thought this was the purpose of DU forums...
"When ever you post anything about gun control on the Du a whole host of pro gun people show up and try and manipulate you into either shutting up or changing your views."

My goodness, that's what the site(s) are about! It's not a mutual admiration society (though that may occur), nor is it preaching to the choir. I wouldn't be here if there were not a chance DUers would be convinced of pro-2A positions. But there certainly is that chance, and I believe that many DUers have "come over."

You can have a discussion with "them." Of course, when someone makes a reference to folks here being "freepers," or "NRA-types," or lacking "penis length" or some such, that does not make for good argument.

I don't know what you mean by "NRA disruptors." First, there is little disruption done by pro-RKBA folks, though I have seen ample evidence of some hateful-types who attack pro-2A folks at every turn. Review their arguments; review yours, and see where the onus most heavily falls.

FYI, there has been thoughtful and respectful debate over extension of the NICS test to all citizens, and not require it only of FFLs. But even here, one gun-controller condemned the discussion as meaningless since it did not call for bans on guns and ammunition.

As for knowledge of the subject, it is always wise to know as much as possible about the substance/object/behavior one wishes to control by law.
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  -The Liberal Guncast virginia mountainman  Jan-04-10 09:30 PM   #0 
  - Yeah I think they really are that ineffective  tularetom   Jan-04-10 09:37 PM   #1 
  - I keep an Obama sticker on my pistol case..  Naked_Ape   Jan-04-10 09:57 PM   #2 
  - Unfortuanately, Obama's record is strongly anti-gun.  GreenStormCloud   Jan-05-10 08:32 AM   #4 
  - "we are out to grab their guns." In fairness though they have had plenty of help  DonP   Jan-05-10 09:50 AM   #6 
     - Question  russ1943   Jan-05-10 11:33 PM   #27 
        - Same place you get your "facts"  eqfan592   Jan-06-10 12:14 AM   #28 
           - Thanks for the help  DonP   Jan-06-10 10:20 AM   #31 
           - Not a problem :)  eqfan592   Jan-06-10 02:27 PM   #34 
              - Eagerly searching for data...  DonP   Jan-06-10 03:37 PM   #35 
                 - .Do you have any idea?  russ1943   Jan-06-10 11:55 PM   #38 
                 - But the murder RATE does appear to be at a 20 year low.  eqfan592   Jan-07-10 12:51 AM   #40 
                    - GUN CRIME NOR NUMBER OF MURDERS  russ1943   Jan-07-10 02:13 AM   #42 
                       - You just contradicted yourself.  eqfan592   Jan-07-10 08:52 AM   #44 
                 - While your searching for that data....  russ1943   Jan-07-10 11:34 PM   #46 
           - Not really  russ1943   Jan-06-10 11:02 PM   #37 
              - Violent crime TOTAL, not violent crime RATE  eqfan592   Jan-07-10 12:39 AM   #39 
                 - No, it wasn't the RATE you posted about!  russ1943   Jan-07-10 01:56 AM   #41 
                    - Does not mention of total numbers and allowing for the increased population...  eqfan592   Jan-07-10 08:49 AM   #43 
                       - Never mind.  russ1943   Jan-07-10 11:25 PM   #45 
                          - Ummm....ok then.  eqfan592   Jan-08-10 12:39 AM   #47 
  - Agreed  Old Codger   Jan-04-10 10:05 PM   #3 
     - What was wrong with Heston? n/t  PavePusher   Jan-05-10 09:42 AM   #5 
        - what he did  Old Codger   Jan-05-10 10:12 AM   #7 
        - "I won't give up my bus seat."  PavePusher   Jan-05-10 10:26 AM   #8 
           - No, THIS Would Sound Silly:  tucsonlib   Jan-05-10 07:56 PM   #9 
           - Registration does not stop anyone qualified from voting.  PavePusher   Jan-05-10 08:02 PM   #10 
              - I'm Not Questioning The Sentiment  tucsonlib   Jan-05-10 08:24 PM   #11 
                 - Odd, I rather thought his declaration was ...  PavePusher   Jan-05-10 08:43 PM   #14 
           - Context  Old Codger   Jan-05-10 08:36 PM   #13 
              - I guess one can only try to make passionate speeches...  PavePusher   Jan-05-10 08:45 PM   #15 
                 - Ok , well  Old Codger   Jan-05-10 09:20 PM   #17 
                    - Interestingly enough, Heston and Churchill were saying almost exactly the same thing...  PavePusher   Jan-05-10 09:34 PM   #18 
                    - That quote is not original to Heston. In fact, it has been on bumper stickers for decades.  GreenStormCloud   Jan-06-10 11:02 AM   #32 
                       - O.K., learn something new every day.  PavePusher   Jan-06-10 12:20 PM   #33 
        - They focus on that one statement, disregarding all else...  east texas lib   Jan-05-10 08:35 PM   #12 
           - Education, it's the only way...  PavePusher   Jan-05-10 08:47 PM   #16 
  - When ever you post anything about gun control on the DU a whole host of  applegrove   Jan-05-10 09:42 PM   #19 
     - "You cannot have a discussion with you"  PavePusher   Jan-05-10 09:44 PM   #20 
     - I corrected it. I should reread my posts before I post them. LOL!  applegrove   Jan-05-10 09:45 PM   #21 
        - I resemble that remark.  PavePusher   Jan-05-10 09:54 PM   #22 
           - I don' t know enough about gun control anymore to make for good banter.  applegrove   Jan-05-10 10:00 PM   #23 
              - 'S O.K., I'm off to bed. Up at Oh-gohd hundred. Bugger. Cheers! n/t  PavePusher   Jan-05-10 10:02 PM   #24 
                 - Cheers.  applegrove   Jan-05-10 10:06 PM   #25 
     - I think you are mistaken, but I will listen to what you have to say.  rd_kent   Jan-05-10 10:10 PM   #26 
     - I'm just not read up on gun control right now to get into the discussion deeply.  applegrove   Jan-06-10 09:00 PM   #36 
        - So if you admit you are not up on gun control issues why do you complain that pro-2A people will not  rd_kent   Jan-11-10 01:25 PM   #49 
     - What's the point of discussion....  eqfan592   Jan-06-10 12:25 AM   #29 
     - It has more to do with the messengers than the message.  jeepnstein   Jan-06-10 10:11 AM   #30 
     - I thought this was the purpose of DU forums...  SteveM   Jan-11-10 01:10 PM   #48 

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