PavePusher
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Tue Dec-15-09 08:33 PM
Response to Reply #45 |
| 48. Actually, she's trying to compare apples to orangutans. |
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And failing badly. Oranges would at least still be fruit...
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safeinOhio |
Dec-15-09 07:56 AM |
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re the linked study: Same problems as Kellerman, et at |
X_Digger |
Dec-15-09 09:51 AM |
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Yep; it's the standard public health research template |
Euromutt |
Dec-15-09 10:38 AM |
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Published in American Journal of Public Health a |
safeinOhio |
Dec-15-09 11:03 AM |
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All that I pulled was from the 3 page summary.. |
X_Digger |
Dec-15-09 11:11 AM |
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The methodology, as reported by the study, |
safeinOhio |
Dec-15-09 12:50 PM |
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Err.. |
X_Digger |
Dec-15-09 01:09 PM |
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Unless a workplace is going to take measures.... |
eqfan592 |
Dec-15-09 11:16 AM |
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You'd be amazed what gets past peer reviewers |
Euromutt |
Dec-15-09 04:39 PM |
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it is one thing to say don't carry at work |
paulsby |
Dec-16-09 06:21 PM |
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uh oh |
iverglas |
Dec-17-09 02:34 PM |
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re the article itself |
X_Digger |
Dec-15-09 10:03 AM |
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There's a few more obvious rejoinders |
Euromutt |
Dec-15-09 11:02 AM |
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While looking for stats, I came across this |
safeinOhio |
Dec-15-09 11:26 AM |
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No studies at hand to back it up, but |
taurus145 |
Dec-15-09 11:33 AM |
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The NRA supports the NICS. Why would the gun need to go to the police to be checked? |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Dec-15-09 11:43 AM |
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As I remember the seller has a part to fill out |
safeinOhio |
Dec-15-09 12:14 PM |
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Yes the dealer has a part to fill out. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Dec-15-09 04:00 PM |
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Well, it peaked _before_ 1994's Brady bill.. |
X_Digger |
Dec-15-09 11:49 AM |
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My view of the chart shows |
safeinOhio |
Dec-15-09 12:58 PM |
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Actually, there was a drop in cocaine arrests.. |
X_Digger |
Dec-15-09 01:21 PM |
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You can question studies all day |
safeinOhio |
Dec-15-09 03:46 PM |
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Did you reply to the wrong post? (or wrong post of mine?) |
X_Digger |
Dec-15-09 04:10 PM |
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Others suggest the decrease is |
safeinOhio |
Dec-15-09 04:44 PM |
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"Freakonomics" suggest that the decrease is due to abortion being legalized 20 years previously. |
GreenStormCloud |
Dec-15-09 04:55 PM |
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I'd never make that assertion.. |
X_Digger |
Dec-15-09 05:30 PM |
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Actually, if I recall... |
eqfan592 |
Dec-15-09 12:10 PM |
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Most of the time |
safeinOhio |
Dec-15-09 12:22 PM |
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Not really.. |
X_Digger |
Dec-15-09 01:56 PM |
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What else happened? Well, there was the improving economy beginning around 1993, |
benEzra |
Dec-15-09 12:14 PM |
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No, they just come to Ohio. |
safeinOhio |
Dec-15-09 01:07 PM |
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How about qualified individuals having CHL's? |
benEzra |
Dec-15-09 04:38 PM |
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The drop occurred in violent crime overall, not just gun crime |
Euromutt |
Dec-16-09 10:29 AM |
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Yes and no. |
AtheistCrusader |
Dec-15-09 11:45 AM |
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You have the right to not go near a school, |
safeinOhio |
Dec-15-09 12:28 PM |
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There is a difference between public and private property. |
AtheistCrusader |
Dec-15-09 12:56 PM |
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I have the right to not go near a school? |
PavePusher |
Dec-15-09 08:29 PM |
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I consider myself to be a strong supporter of private property rights |
slackmaster |
Dec-15-09 12:30 PM |
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This is part of the general attempt to demonize CCW holders. |
GreenStormCloud |
Dec-15-09 01:16 PM |
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well hey |
iverglas |
Dec-15-09 03:47 PM |
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Yes, our demographics are different. |
GreenStormCloud |
Dec-15-09 04:02 PM |
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established facts |
iverglas |
Dec-15-09 04:08 PM |
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TX & FL post their annual statistics. The law-abiding part is well proven. N/T |
GreenStormCloud |
Dec-15-09 04:34 PM |
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really |
iverglas |
Dec-15-09 04:47 PM |
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I will reply tomorrow. Bedtime for me now. I work night shift. N/T |
GreenStormCloud |
Dec-15-09 04:57 PM |
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We've already put that one to bed. |
gorfle |
Dec-15-09 08:27 PM |
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just for starters |
iverglas |
Dec-16-09 12:51 PM |
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Texas reports on those statistics by CHL holders too. N/T |
GreenStormCloud |
Dec-16-09 01:08 PM |
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for fuck's sake, stop torturing the text |
iverglas |
Dec-16-09 01:48 PM |
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Please cite some data. |
gorfle |
Dec-16-09 03:01 PM |
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please stop annoying the grownups |
iverglas |
Dec-16-09 03:14 PM |
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I see you have no data to support your assertion. |
gorfle |
Dec-16-09 04:26 PM |
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post 74 |
iverglas |
Dec-16-09 04:57 PM |
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There is nothing childish. |
gorfle |
Dec-16-09 05:19 PM |
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I already put that one to bed, too. |
gorfle |
Dec-16-09 02:59 PM |
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jezus, are you this thick? |
iverglas |
Dec-16-09 03:29 PM |
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Reading comprehension, Iverglas. |
gorfle |
Dec-16-09 04:32 PM |
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will you just stop? |
iverglas |
Dec-16-09 04:55 PM |
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I'll stop when you stop. |
gorfle |
Dec-16-09 05:58 PM |
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Lol, I was about to make the same point. |
X_Digger |
Dec-16-09 06:37 PM |
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Nice gymnastics, but no points. |
GreenStormCloud |
Dec-16-09 09:05 AM |
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So what? |
gorfle |
Dec-15-09 04:26 PM |
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Thanks for bringing things back to the main point. N/T |
GreenStormCloud |
Dec-15-09 04:35 PM |
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reply to the wrong post/er? |
iverglas |
Dec-15-09 05:17 PM |
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Wrongo. |
gorfle |
Dec-15-09 07:58 PM |
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You keep comparing apples to oranges. |
gorfle |
Dec-15-09 08:15 PM |
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Actually, she's trying to compare apples to orangutans. |
PavePusher |
Dec-15-09 08:33 PM |
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catch up, eh? |
iverglas |
Dec-16-09 01:02 PM |
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You are much more likely to be struck by lightning than be shot by a CCWer. |
GreenStormCloud |
Dec-16-09 01:16 PM |
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hahahaha |
iverglas |
Dec-16-09 01:45 PM |
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You just have no basis for your claim. |
gorfle |
Dec-16-09 03:03 PM |
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damn, I hate having to spell it out |
iverglas |
Dec-16-09 03:33 PM |
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Well, I do hope you wipe your chin after those screeds.... n/t |
PavePusher |
Dec-16-09 03:57 PM |
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Glad you agree then. |
gorfle |
Dec-16-09 04:23 PM |
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Hey, I'm trying to enjoy my wine here, wassa matter with you?! |
PavePusher |
Dec-16-09 09:20 PM |
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more words of wisdom |
logjon |
Dec-16-09 09:26 PM |
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how odd |
iverglas |
Dec-17-09 02:31 PM |
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I think you're getting hung up on this because.. |
X_Digger |
Dec-16-09 01:31 PM |
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Very good post on explaining the relevance. Outstanding. N/T |
GreenStormCloud |
Dec-16-09 01:35 PM |
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deleted, posted in wrong place |
iverglas |
Dec-16-09 01:46 PM |
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Precisely. |
gorfle |
Dec-16-09 03:06 PM |
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wow, nice tries, folks |
iverglas |
Dec-16-09 03:47 PM |
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Thank you for admitting it. |
gorfle |
Dec-16-09 04:19 PM |
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BTW - What happened to you in the thread about the woman who was shot 9 times? |
GreenStormCloud |
Dec-16-09 06:19 PM |
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I do get bored |
iverglas |
Dec-17-09 02:38 PM |
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Do you really know anything about which you are talking about? N/T |
oneshooter |
Dec-17-09 02:45 PM |
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Well THEN! |
gorfle |
Dec-16-09 02:40 PM |
#60 |
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