eqfan592
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Wed Nov-18-09 11:37 AM
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It does make sense if the argument that your side is trying to make is that CCW holders are more likely to commit violent crimes (or at least just as likely). How on earth can you possibly make the comparison between the two samples of people without looking at the homicide rate for the population at large?
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| -Keeping Track of Killings by Concealed Handgun Permit Holders--85 Dead So Far |
GreenStormCloud |
Nov-18-09 11:14 AM |
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...and 12.6 times as full of shit |
wizstars |
Nov-18-09 11:17 AM |
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That's all you got? |
eqfan592 |
Nov-18-09 11:38 AM |
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How informative of you. Your reply to a post that was full of facts and data shows your ignorance. |
rd_kent |
Nov-19-09 04:00 PM |
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Nov-18-09 11:21 AM |
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What the hell is that supposed to mean? nt |
TheWraith |
Nov-18-09 11:25 AM |
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wow, that was stupid |
eqfan592 |
Nov-18-09 11:37 AM |
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Good find. |
eqfan592 |
Nov-18-09 11:24 AM |
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Something like 2% of the US population has a concealed carry license, I believe. |
TheWraith |
Nov-18-09 11:30 AM |
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Geez. |
rrneck |
Nov-18-09 11:35 AM |
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225 people on average killed by lightning in 2.5 years. |
GreenStormCloud |
Nov-18-09 01:15 PM |
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A great exercise in comparing apples to lug nuts. |
RaleighNCDUer |
Nov-18-09 12:25 PM |
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well that was pointless |
eqfan592 |
Nov-18-09 12:53 PM |
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Also, another point. |
eqfan592 |
Nov-18-09 01:02 PM |
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Thank you for agreeing that CCW holders are far safer with guns than the general populace. |
GreenStormCloud |
Nov-18-09 01:10 PM |
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Like eqfan592 says, this isn't just about firearm homicides |
Euromutt |
Nov-19-09 08:25 AM |
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Figures don't lie |
unlegendary |
Nov-21-09 12:43 PM |
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Yes, the VPC is using figure to deceive. What does The Bible have to do with any of this? N/T |
GreenStormCloud |
Nov-21-09 01:10 PM |
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"CCW permits are less likely to be involved in shootings." (nt) |
SteveM |
Jan-01-10 11:57 PM |
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Here is some more results |
virginia mountainman |
Nov-18-09 12:29 PM |
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Wow. Good graph! |
Hoopla Phil |
Nov-18-09 05:47 PM |
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Florida publishes a report each month on concealed weapons permit holders... |
spin |
Nov-18-09 12:47 PM |
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I noticed the article neglected to mention that |
chibajoe |
Nov-18-09 01:16 PM |
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I don't think the article was restricting itself... |
eqfan592 |
Nov-18-09 01:21 PM |
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It kind of was, actually |
Euromutt |
Nov-19-09 09:34 AM |
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Yeah, I hadn't thought about it from that angle. |
eqfan592 |
Nov-19-09 01:52 PM |
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Certainly there were more than 85 genuine DGU saves in that same period. |
GreenStormCloud |
Nov-18-09 01:27 PM |
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Even if you narrowed it down to just DGU by CCW holders... |
eqfan592 |
Nov-18-09 01:32 PM |
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I think we post more than 85 incidences where concealed weapons saved lives... |
spin |
Nov-18-09 04:28 PM |
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LOL! nt |
rrneck |
Nov-19-09 12:35 AM |
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Killings... or murders? n/t |
krispos42 |
Nov-19-09 02:39 AM |
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According to the article, the measure used was "killings as reported by news outlets" |
slackmaster |
Nov-19-09 03:37 AM |
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Surprise surprise |
krispos42 |
Nov-19-09 05:12 AM |
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The suicides and maybe some of the justifiable shootings have nothing to do with the CCW |
slackmaster |
Nov-19-09 09:18 AM |
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Murders and accidents, but the number does exclude justifiable homicides. |
GreenStormCloud |
Nov-19-09 10:42 AM |
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Irony, thy name is Sugarmann |
Euromutt |
Nov-19-09 08:38 AM |
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## PLEASE DONATE TO DEMOCRATIC UNDERGROUND! ## |
DU GrovelBot |
Nov-19-09 04:00 PM |
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Well I feel safer now.. |
unlegendary |
Nov-21-09 12:31 PM |
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What a rant that was. |
GreenStormCloud |
Nov-21-09 01:08 PM |
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Wow. |
PavePusher |
Nov-21-09 01:14 PM |
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Someone needs a reminder: |
friendly_iconoclast |
Nov-21-09 02:30 PM |
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Why wait around? |
taurus145 |
Nov-22-09 04:22 AM |
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Oh my dang... |
Skim Diesel |
Jan-01-10 11:32 PM |
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Bumped for RealityInSeatle |
GreenStormCloud |
Jan-01-10 10:41 PM |
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