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Wed Nov-18-09 08:03 PM
Response to Reply #132 |
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Edited on Wed Nov-18-09 08:07 PM by burrfoot
it is perjury. You are signing a document that is going to filed with the court, and there is a little phrase to the effect of "by signing, I affirm that all statements contained within this document are true to the best of my knowledge...."
FWIW.
*Edit- sweet pistol. I'm a Glock fan. But really, seriously- why would you lie about this information?*
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| -If you were adopting a child, how would you answer this question? |
spin |
Nov-17-09 12:19 PM |
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I think it's a more valid question than "are you gay" |
unpossibles |
Nov-17-09 12:21 PM |
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+5 |
Tikki |
Nov-17-09 12:22 PM |
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+10 |
elehhhhna |
Nov-17-09 05:08 PM |
#77 |
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Absolutely right. The gun crowd equates gun rights with civil rights. |
onehandle |
Nov-17-09 12:28 PM |
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Guns and civil rights are more closely tied than most imagine... |
spin |
Nov-17-09 12:47 PM |
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guns rights are CONSTITUTIONAL rights. Why do you hate the COnstitution? |
rd_kent |
Nov-17-09 02:52 PM |
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Yes. Gun rights = human rights. |
onehandle |
Nov-17-09 08:54 PM |
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You seem to be the only one equating this with a Human Rights issue. |
rd_kent |
Nov-18-09 09:28 AM |
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Same here |
Warpy |
Nov-17-09 12:33 PM |
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I think both questions are improper. |
AtheistCrusader |
Nov-17-09 01:29 PM |
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Agreed! - nt |
Tejas |
Nov-17-09 04:48 PM |
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Actually the number of kids killed by guns is at an all time low. |
TheWraith |
Nov-17-09 01:45 PM |
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Probably still higher than the number killed by gay adopters, though |
Dead_Parrot |
Nov-17-09 05:34 PM |
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Neither should be a sole reason for rejection. (n/t) |
spin |
Nov-17-09 06:12 PM |
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But exponentially more kids die in home swimming pools |
pipoman |
Nov-19-09 06:40 AM |
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Gun safety a concern in the wake of child’s death Monday |
struggle4progress |
Nov-17-09 05:45 PM |
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Can't be all time lows if recent years were higher, can it? |
russ1943 |
Nov-18-09 12:25 PM |
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In my book, that's not a valid question either (n/t) |
Euromutt |
Nov-17-09 11:43 PM |
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Do you own a gun? Are you a felon? Do you take drugs? Do you drink? |
onehandle |
Nov-17-09 12:23 PM |
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How the hell does owning a gun equate to being |
doc03 |
Nov-17-09 12:43 PM |
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I read that not as those being eqivalent but of all things which may be a red flag |
unpossibles |
Nov-17-09 12:48 PM |
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Exactly. nt |
onehandle |
Nov-17-09 12:51 PM |
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Why would me owning a perfectly legal object have anything to |
doc03 |
Nov-17-09 12:54 PM |
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It's their right to protect the kids in their care. |
onehandle |
Nov-17-09 01:22 PM |
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We had firearms in the house when I was growing up, and I feel I am a more rounded person... |
slackmaster |
Nov-17-09 01:24 PM |
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Protect them from what? |
rd_kent |
Nov-17-09 02:53 PM |
#53 |
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Do you have a fire extinguisher, or smoke detector? |
AtheistCrusader |
Nov-17-09 03:53 PM |
#58 |
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Did you miss post or something? |
rd_kent |
Nov-17-09 04:15 PM |
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Disregard. I am dumb. |
AtheistCrusader |
Nov-17-09 04:20 PM |
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many if not most gun owners see guns as tools |
reggie the dog |
Nov-17-09 05:04 PM |
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I own a number of handguns and my primary use is target shooting... |
spin |
Nov-17-09 06:25 PM |
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Actually.. |
X_Digger |
Nov-17-09 06:26 PM |
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so hunters should not be allowed to adpot? |
reggie the dog |
Nov-17-09 05:03 PM |
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Yes. That's exactly what I said. |
onehandle |
Nov-17-09 08:52 PM |
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And again |
pipoman |
Nov-19-09 07:08 AM |
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and it's their right to decide that you may not be suitable for adopting a human being |
unpossibles |
Nov-17-09 01:26 PM |
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What the hell does car jackings have to do with Race? |
AtheistCrusader |
Nov-17-09 01:35 PM |
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it just sounded to me like you presented two options |
unpossibles |
Nov-17-09 02:10 PM |
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Well, we have diverse criminals where I'm from. |
AtheistCrusader |
Nov-17-09 03:06 PM |
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me too - I live in NYC |
unpossibles |
Nov-17-09 03:11 PM |
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Ah, yeah, there would be a difference. |
AtheistCrusader |
Nov-17-09 03:50 PM |
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I am from the suburbs and I grew up around guns |
reggie the dog |
Nov-17-09 05:12 PM |
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Black people hunt. |
taurus145 |
Nov-17-09 08:42 PM |
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how is jacking racist? |
reggie the dog |
Nov-17-09 05:11 PM |
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Exactly |
reggie the dog |
Nov-17-09 05:01 PM |
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It would also be your right to say extraterrestrials had taken over the US government, and it might |
struggle4progress |
Nov-17-09 05:58 PM |
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Ok. you're right. Let the kids sit in foster care then! That will teach |
kelly1mm |
Nov-18-09 01:13 AM |
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The panic and hysteria in this forum is quite remarkable |
struggle4progress |
Nov-18-09 02:01 AM |
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One of these things is not like the others, one of these things just doesn't belonggggg... |
AtheistCrusader |
Nov-17-09 01:33 PM |
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That was covered in #16 and #37. nt |
onehandle |
Nov-17-09 01:39 PM |
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They would probably not even ask 'are you a felon'. |
AtheistCrusader |
Nov-17-09 01:51 PM |
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Right. So maybe they don't have to. |
onehandle |
Nov-17-09 08:51 PM |
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They only have to because some moron required them to. |
AtheistCrusader |
Nov-17-09 11:32 PM |
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How does owning a gun, morally speaking, have anything to do |
reggie the dog |
Nov-17-09 05:00 PM |
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Me, I'd answer, "no." |
tblue |
Nov-17-09 12:24 PM |
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Should that make you more qualified than someone who "loves" shooting... |
spin |
Nov-17-09 01:29 PM |
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I don't know. |
tblue |
Nov-17-09 01:44 PM |
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That's a fair answer. Thanks. (n/t) |
spin |
Nov-17-09 01:55 PM |
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Well, they should never ask just: Do you own a gun? |
tblue |
Nov-17-09 02:01 PM |
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I totally agree... |
spin |
Nov-17-09 04:18 PM |
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what if you love shooting and love hunting? |
reggie the dog |
Nov-17-09 05:13 PM |
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Sounds fine to me... |
spin |
Nov-17-09 07:04 PM |
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That's a common issues with female shooters |
taurus145 |
Nov-18-09 07:04 AM |
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I like the red dot idea... |
spin |
Nov-18-09 12:31 PM |
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So much hate! |
rd_kent |
Nov-17-09 02:54 PM |
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considering the nature of the rest of the questions, I don't find this invasive |
Lerkfish |
Nov-17-09 12:25 PM |
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How frequently do you make love? Damn! |
spin |
Nov-17-09 12:38 PM |
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it was very bizarre let me tell you |
Lerkfish |
Nov-17-09 02:48 PM |
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My first thought would have been to say,... |
spin |
Nov-17-09 04:31 PM |
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Ha! That's what people *say* |
Euromutt |
Nov-18-09 12:47 AM |
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Quality sex can be a challenge for young couples with toddlers... |
spin |
Nov-18-09 11:17 AM |
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Nifty thing about those phones... |
PavePusher |
Nov-18-09 01:10 PM |
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My mother used to put a little beer in a baby bottle... |
spin |
Nov-18-09 04:24 PM |
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As the joke goes... |
Euromutt |
Nov-19-09 01:08 AM |
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Yep. The whole thing feels like a job interview |
AtheistCrusader |
Nov-17-09 04:55 PM |
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In a job interview should the question "Do you own guns"... |
spin |
Nov-17-09 06:45 PM |
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If it's a job in a gun shop... |
Euromutt |
Nov-18-09 12:36 AM |
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In that case the question makes sense. |
spin |
Nov-18-09 11:14 AM |
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Hahah shit, I forgot about that. |
AtheistCrusader |
Nov-17-09 04:53 PM |
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The way you phrase it is a lot better |
Euromutt |
Nov-18-09 12:20 AM |
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About 10 times a day |
taurus145 |
Nov-18-09 07:08 AM |
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Truthfully. |
damntexdem |
Nov-17-09 12:25 PM |
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If the question was literally phrased that way, I would answer "No." |
slackmaster |
Nov-17-09 12:31 PM |
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I adopted |
wellstone dem |
Nov-17-09 12:34 PM |
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It's none of their f-----g business. Every American has a |
doc03 |
Nov-17-09 12:40 PM |
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I think it's an entirely appropriate question, especially when you consider things like this |
ET Awful |
Nov-17-09 12:41 PM |
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Do they ask about other hazards? |
krispos42 |
Nov-17-09 12:54 PM |
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Exactly, it's about gun haters. It's obvious |
doc03 |
Nov-17-09 01:00 PM |
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This is not about gun haters. |
burrfoot |
Nov-17-09 01:17 PM |
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Good. It's reassuring to hear from someone in the know. |
spin |
Nov-17-09 01:40 PM |
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"Could" |
burrfoot |
Nov-17-09 07:33 PM |
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It's good to know there is a challenge proceedure.... |
spin |
Nov-17-09 08:03 PM |
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None of those things have the primary purpose of violence. |
onehandle |
Nov-17-09 01:17 PM |
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But they are just as deadly, which I would think would be the point of the inquiry |
krispos42 |
Nov-17-09 01:25 PM |
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I saw nothing about gun ownership being a disqualifier. |
onehandle |
Nov-17-09 01:35 PM |
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The primary purpose of firearms is not violence... |
spin |
Nov-17-09 01:26 PM |
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Yes. When the bullet hits a target it evaporates into nothingness. |
onehandle |
Nov-17-09 01:33 PM |
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Destroying paper targets pasted on cardboard is violent? |
spin |
Nov-17-09 01:52 PM |
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You gotta kill the animals you eat somehow |
reggie the dog |
Nov-17-09 05:19 PM |
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primary purpose of a shotgun is hunting birds |
reggie the dog |
Nov-17-09 05:18 PM |
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I have a shotgun, and its primary purpose is home defense. |
spin |
Nov-17-09 06:23 PM |
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They also came to my home and checked |
Karia |
Nov-17-09 01:39 PM |
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believe or not, yes. |
Lerkfish |
Nov-17-09 02:49 PM |
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Actually yes. They asked about dog breeds. |
AtheistCrusader |
Nov-17-09 04:56 PM |
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No, they don't. |
The Doctor. |
Nov-17-09 05:01 PM |
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For a while pediatricians asked that question... |
spin |
Nov-17-09 06:51 PM |
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children have a right to own and shoot guns anytime they wish. no bidg deal really nt |
msongs |
Nov-17-09 12:55 PM |
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I'm pretty sure they ask |
Fresh_Start |
Nov-17-09 01:22 PM |
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I'd answer |
burrfoot |
Nov-17-09 01:23 PM |
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That might work if it covered all of the valid follow up questions. |
onehandle |
Nov-17-09 01:42 PM |
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Looking back |
burrfoot |
Nov-17-09 07:45 PM |
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## PLEASE DONATE TO DEMOCRATIC UNDERGROUND! ## |
DU GrovelBot |
Nov-17-09 01:29 PM |
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One observation after reading all these responses |
doc03 |
Nov-17-09 02:15 PM |
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That's one scary prediction... |
spin |
Nov-17-09 04:21 PM |
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I don't think it'll come to that, but yeah, see post 39 for the sort of microscope we went under. |
AtheistCrusader |
Nov-17-09 04:59 PM |
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Hey there- |
burrfoot |
Nov-18-09 07:32 PM |
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I assume the inspector is there to find problems. |
AtheistCrusader |
Nov-18-09 11:24 PM |
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Gotcha. |
burrfoot |
Nov-19-09 01:11 PM |
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i would answer truthfully ... as should everyone ... n/t |
Scout |
Nov-17-09 04:02 PM |
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Adoption is not just a baby |
kimjamey69 |
Nov-17-09 04:50 PM |
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A good point... |
spin |
Nov-17-09 06:10 PM |
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Yep. nt |
onehandle |
Nov-17-09 08:55 PM |
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that question is out of line |
reggie the dog |
Nov-17-09 04:59 PM |
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Sigh... |
onehandle |
Nov-17-09 08:57 PM |
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Really? |
burrfoot |
Nov-18-09 07:48 PM |
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how many of you fine, upstanding, law-abiding gun owners are going to LIE? n/t |
Scout |
Nov-17-09 05:34 PM |
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I might be upset with the question, but I would tell the truth... |
spin |
Nov-17-09 05:55 PM |
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I hope she responds, actually; |
burrfoot |
Nov-18-09 07:57 PM |
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I would lie. |
OneTenthofOnePercent |
Nov-18-09 12:10 AM |
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so apparently some of our gun-owners are not so law-abiding and upstanding citizens |
Scout |
Nov-18-09 12:51 PM |
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Is dishonesty on a child adoption questionaire from cosidered purjury? |
OneTenthofOnePercent |
Nov-18-09 04:21 PM |
#132 |
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Actually, |
burrfoot |
Nov-18-09 08:03 PM |
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"seriously- why would you lie about this information?" |
OneTenthofOnePercent |
Nov-19-09 07:11 AM |
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Sadly, |
burrfoot |
Nov-19-09 01:20 PM |
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Now if you would have asked those with concealed carry permits... |
spin |
Nov-18-09 07:30 PM |
#135 |
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What's the next question? |
Ready4Change |
Nov-17-09 07:48 PM |
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One would be considered odd if they didn't own one where I live. |
Kaleva |
Nov-17-09 09:16 PM |
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No right to ask that. |
proteus_lives |
Nov-17-09 11:40 PM |
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It is not about guns, but common sense & safety |
Karia |
Nov-18-09 12:19 AM |
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Questions they don't ask, but should... |
ZombieHorde |
Nov-18-09 03:33 AM |
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Also . . . |
jefflrrp |
Nov-18-09 05:24 AM |
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Truer words have never been spoken. nt |
ZombieHorde |
Nov-18-09 11:21 AM |
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Hey! What's wrong with country music? n/t |
PavePusher |
Nov-18-09 01:13 PM |
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Meh. Im ambivalent about this one . . . |
jefflrrp |
Nov-18-09 05:20 AM |
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I'd simply say "No." n/t |
HALO141 |
Nov-18-09 03:09 PM |
#131 |
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Do you vote? |
JonQ |
Nov-18-09 05:15 PM |
#134 |
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Yes, exactly. |
burrfoot |
Nov-18-09 08:17 PM |
#140 |
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Do you ask if they have a pool? |
JonQ |
Nov-18-09 10:10 PM |
#141 |
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Absolutely I |
burrfoot |
Nov-19-09 01:26 PM |
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The main difference |
JonQ |
Nov-19-09 01:44 PM |
#150 |
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Oh, I get that part. |
burrfoot |
Nov-19-09 07:44 PM |
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