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AtheistCrusader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-28-09 04:02 PM
Response to Reply #48
49. By all appearances, he voted himself off the island.
Why does it need to be 'easier'?
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  -Toledo, WA geezer defends castle keep...intruder in repose. WheelWalker  Oct-28-09 01:41 PM   #0 
  - I guess when breaking into someones house and you hear the words "freeze"  rd_kent   Oct-28-09 01:44 PM   #1 
  - It's a term of art...  WheelWalker   Oct-28-09 01:49 PM   #2 
  - another gungeon post celebrating someone's death  Howardx   Oct-28-09 01:51 PM   #3 
  - Could you PLEASE point out this "celebration" you are referring to?  rd_kent   Oct-28-09 01:52 PM   #4 
  - why else is a dead intruder in toledo wa newsworthy?  Howardx   Oct-28-09 01:56 PM   #6 
     - A reflection on intentions, actions and consequences.  WheelWalker   Oct-28-09 02:00 PM   #8 
     - "why else is a dead intruder in toledo wa newsworthy?" Because it showcases the NEED for guns.  rd_kent   Oct-28-09 02:03 PM   #9 
        - self serving bs  Howardx   Oct-28-09 02:08 PM   #12 
           - Thats a bunch of crap, and you know it.  rd_kent   Oct-28-09 02:15 PM   #13 
              - i know what i read  Howardx   Oct-28-09 02:19 PM   #14 
                 - Hehe, I love your use of the word "progressive" several times as an insult.  rd_kent   Oct-28-09 02:21 PM   #15 
                    - hardly  Howardx   Oct-28-09 02:22 PM   #16 
                       - This link is a good place to begin your studies of the moral questions....  WheelWalker   Oct-28-09 02:30 PM   #17 
                          - Awesome link, thank you!  AtheistCrusader   Oct-28-09 04:55 PM   #90 
                          - Yes. Questions we all deal with every day in our lives.  WheelWalker   Oct-29-09 11:13 AM   #120 
                          - Thanks WheelWalker, that is a very interesting link  slackmaster   Oct-29-09 09:39 AM   #112 
                             - You are quite welcome. It is worthy of sharing.  WheelWalker   Oct-29-09 11:14 AM   #121 
  - More celebrating someones life  JonQ   Oct-28-09 01:55 PM   #5 
  - i think this forums obsession with "intruder kills"  Howardx   Oct-28-09 01:57 PM   #7 
     - Less sickening than grabbers obsession with "innocent deaths"  JonQ   Oct-28-09 02:03 PM   #10 
     - and you know that how?  Howardx   Oct-28-09 02:40 PM   #19 
        - Now you've made a fair point.  AtheistCrusader   Oct-28-09 03:17 PM   #28 
        - Because the intruder was a bad guy. The resident was defending, not attacking.  GreenStormCloud   Oct-28-09 03:37 PM   #32 
        - you have no way to know if that was the case or not.  Howardx   Oct-28-09 03:42 PM   #34 
           - You have two established facts.  GreenStormCloud   Oct-28-09 03:58 PM   #46 
              - "goblin"  Howardx   Oct-28-09 04:01 PM   #48 
                 - By all appearances, he voted himself off the island.  AtheistCrusader   Oct-28-09 04:02 PM   #49 
                 - please  Howardx   Oct-28-09 04:06 PM   #53 
                    - What do YOU think the resident should have done?  GreenStormCloud   Oct-28-09 04:09 PM   #55 
                    - killing the guy wouldnt be my first thought  Howardx   Oct-28-09 04:16 PM   #60 
                       - Did he have hands and feet?  AtheistCrusader   Oct-28-09 04:17 PM   #62 
                       - so can martial arts  Howardx   Oct-28-09 04:19 PM   #64 
                          - The defender was 62. As we get older, for most of us, martial arts get to be difficult.  GreenStormCloud   Oct-28-09 04:27 PM   #70 
                          - Crudest? Please. Pitting physical strength and hand to hand skill against another human is by far  AtheistCrusader   Oct-28-09 04:28 PM   # 
                          - Would you have advocated this if the resident had been a 90 y.o. woman?  friendly_iconoclast   Oct-28-09 04:38 PM   #80 
                          - A great, another grabber who has watched too many movies  JonQ   Oct-28-09 06:06 PM   #102 
                       - I can promise you  happy2day   Oct-28-09 06:58 PM   #104 
                       - He didn't think of it first either he told him to freeze twice.  Fire_Medic_Dave   Oct-28-09 08:35 PM   #106 
                    - I regret the loss of human potential.  AtheistCrusader   Oct-28-09 04:16 PM   #61 
                    - oh I am sure...........  one-eyed fat man   Oct-29-09 08:44 AM   #110 
                 - The term is becoming popular in recent self-defense books.  GreenStormCloud   Oct-28-09 04:04 PM   #51 
                 - there are no established facts at this point  Howardx   Oct-28-09 04:08 PM   #54 
                    - Perhaps you should read the article again.  GreenStormCloud   Oct-28-09 04:11 PM   #56 
                 - Better check upstream for your characterization of posters here (nt)  SteveM   Nov-01-09 10:28 PM   #130 
                    - Touch  Euromutt   Nov-01-09 10:57 PM   #132 
                       - What ever happened to those dear, big-eyed zombies Val Luten gave us? (nt)  SteveM   Nov-01-09 11:03 PM   #133 
        - You're right, it's his fault really  JonQ   Oct-28-09 05:31 PM   #97 
     - I think this forums obsession with "guns kill people, people don't kill people"  rd_kent   Oct-28-09 02:04 PM   #11 
     - It's sickening that these scum break into people's houses.  AtheistCrusader   Oct-28-09 03:08 PM   #25 
        - "they are FOR protecting human life"  Howardx   Oct-28-09 03:30 PM   #31 
           - So our police are just a bunch of executioners huh?  AtheistCrusader   Oct-28-09 03:42 PM   #35 
              - police carry a tool for ending human life  Howardx   Oct-28-09 03:45 PM   #37 
                 - Murderers are not executioners.  AtheistCrusader   Oct-28-09 03:49 PM   #39 
                 - if you want to ignore reality be my guest  Howardx   Oct-28-09 03:54 PM   #41 
                    - Well shit, I guess all my guns are broken then.  AtheistCrusader   Oct-28-09 03:55 PM   #42 
                       - im sure you'll enjoy that.  Howardx   Oct-28-09 03:56 PM   #44 
                          - Well, I'd hate to think I own dozens of things that don't work as designed.  AtheistCrusader   Oct-28-09 04:00 PM   #47 
                             - what you cant seem to accept  Howardx   Oct-28-09 04:04 PM   #50 
                                - So, how heavy are those goalposts you're moving?  AtheistCrusader   Oct-28-09 04:13 PM   #58 
                                   - i dont see a point in continuing this  Howardx   Oct-28-09 04:18 PM   #63 
                                      - I like that you assume MY premise is broken, and backhandedly declare victory.  AtheistCrusader   Oct-28-09 04:24 PM   #68 
                                      - im not declaring anything  Howardx   Oct-28-09 04:28 PM   #72 
                                         - If that wasn't a declaration, I'm illiterate.  AtheistCrusader   Oct-28-09 04:35 PM   #76 
                                      - Of course they are-they're rather clumsy to use as clubs  friendly_iconoclast   Oct-28-09 04:28 PM   #71 
                                      - So not all guns are made for killing?  Fire_Medic_Dave   Oct-28-09 08:38 PM   #107 
                                      - You're contradicting yourself  Euromutt   Oct-29-09 09:47 AM   #113 
                 - Thereby likely saving lives  Euromutt   Oct-28-09 05:57 PM   #100 
  - Surviving a home invasion strikes me as very progressive...(n/t)  spin   Oct-28-09 02:39 PM   #18 
  - "home invasion"  Howardx   Oct-28-09 02:41 PM   #20 
     - So now its about the semantics?  rd_kent   Oct-28-09 02:47 PM   #22 
     - The distinction is important.  AtheistCrusader   Oct-28-09 03:19 PM   #29 
        - there is no evidence that this was anything but a burglary  Howardx   Oct-28-09 03:28 PM   #30 
           - I think someone ignoring two "Freeze!" commands creates a reasonable fear of impending violence  slackmaster   Oct-28-09 03:41 PM   #33 
           - again  Howardx   Oct-28-09 03:47 PM   #38 
              - Well then.  AtheistCrusader   Oct-28-09 03:52 PM   #40 
                 - the original article says  Howardx   Oct-28-09 03:55 PM   #43 
                    - They are required to investigate.  AtheistCrusader   Oct-28-09 03:57 PM   #45 
                    - Easy enough to investigate. There should be blood on the staircase.  friendly_iconoclast   Oct-28-09 04:15 PM   #59 
                       - again with the smart mouth  Howardx   Oct-28-09 04:21 PM   #66 
                       - Your very first reply to the OP was disrespectful enough. Entertaining that you pull the civil  AtheistCrusader   Oct-28-09 04:30 PM   #73 
                       - i am experienced enough in this forum  Howardx   Oct-28-09 04:35 PM   #77 
                          - It absolutely does happen.  AtheistCrusader   Oct-28-09 04:38 PM   #79 
                          - "Probably because I didn't belittle anyone"  Howardx   Oct-28-09 04:40 PM   #81 
                             - Enjoy.  AtheistCrusader   Oct-28-09 04:43 PM   #83 
                                - as i expected  Howardx   Oct-28-09 04:48 PM   #86 
                                   - I advanced a pro-gun-control position and was not personally attacked.  AtheistCrusader   Oct-28-09 04:52 PM   #89 
                          - You are in denial that violent crime happens to innocent people.  GreenStormCloud   Oct-28-09 04:41 PM   #82 
                             - dont give me that shit  Howardx   Oct-28-09 04:44 PM   #84 
                                - That's all well and good.  AtheistCrusader   Oct-28-09 04:48 PM   #87 
                                - What less than lethal means? You have not been specific.  GreenStormCloud   Oct-28-09 04:52 PM   #88 
                                - what part of final answer do you not understand?  Howardx   Oct-28-09 05:07 PM   #92 
                                - the intruder was a bad guy  Howardx   Oct-28-09 05:12 PM   #95 
                                   - Execute  AtheistCrusader   Oct-28-09 05:25 PM   #96 
                                   - by what justification?  Howardx   Oct-28-09 05:41 PM   #99 
                                   - "cant imagine why people shun this forum."  AtheistCrusader   Oct-28-09 05:58 PM   #101 
                                   - You may have touched on the strategy of some gun-controllers...  SteveM   Nov-01-09 10:41 PM   #131 
                                   - Of course you can say what you please  Euromutt   Oct-29-09 09:23 AM   #111 
                                   - He didn't execute him for a minor felony. He defended his own life.  GreenStormCloud   Oct-28-09 09:21 PM   #109 
                                   - If you would please  oneshooter   Oct-29-09 12:17 PM   #122 
                                - If you ever have to defend yourself in such a manner, I hope it works for you.  friendly_iconoclast   Oct-28-09 05:08 PM   #93 
                       - Well, weak arguments tend to get short shrift here  friendly_iconoclast   Oct-28-09 04:47 PM   #85 
                       - Probably because they are tired of...  PavePusher   Oct-28-09 09:02 PM   #108 
                          - 24 hours and no answer to the question.  PavePusher   Oct-29-09 09:33 PM   #129 
                       - Definately easy to investigate.  GreenStormCloud   Oct-28-09 04:22 PM   #67 
           - If the story is accurate, I have no reason to believe this was a burglary.  AtheistCrusader   Oct-28-09 03:45 PM   #36 
           - You didn't read the article, did you? For shame!  friendly_iconoclast   Oct-28-09 04:06 PM   #52 
              - cut the smarm smart guy  Howardx   Oct-28-09 04:11 PM   #57 
                 - Swing and a miss.  AtheistCrusader   Oct-28-09 04:20 PM   #65 
                 - i'll keep an eye on this story  Howardx   Oct-28-09 04:26 PM   #69 
                    - You might be waiting a long time.  AtheistCrusader   Oct-28-09 04:33 PM   #75 
                    - No Jesuitical training, I see...  tortoise1956   Oct-28-09 08:32 PM   #105 
                    - "We'll see how it turns out." Turns out you were wrong- and promptly took off  friendly_iconoclast   Nov-02-09 09:15 AM   #134 
                 - You missed the difference between 'burglary' and 'home invasion'  friendly_iconoclast   Oct-28-09 04:37 PM   #78 
                 - xx  rd_kent   Oct-28-09 05:10 PM   #94 
                 - Knowing a person does not exclude that person from being an intruder  slackmaster   Oct-29-09 01:44 PM   #125 
  - When the world becomes a better place, even slightly, liberals should celebrate  ProgressiveProfessor   Oct-28-09 05:03 PM   #91 
  - I have some guns for security  safeinOhio   Oct-28-09 02:44 PM   #21 
  - Tragic waste of life and human potential  slackmaster   Oct-28-09 02:58 PM   #23 
  - Agreed. Tragic. At some point in the chain of intentions, decisions and actions of the players,  WheelWalker   Oct-28-09 03:08 PM   #24 
     - I would truly, deeply hate having to use deadly force on a person or on an animal  slackmaster   Oct-28-09 03:13 PM   #26 
        - Exactly. There is no rejoicing. Only moral questions each must answer for one's self.  WheelWalker   Oct-28-09 03:16 PM   #27 
        - So how do you interpret the morality of this incident?  spin   Oct-28-09 04:32 PM   #74 
           - Thusly. One cannot avoid consequences. They arise out of one's actions. Actions arise from  WheelWalker   Oct-28-09 05:34 PM   #98 
              - Well put...  spin   Oct-28-09 06:36 PM   #103 
        - Well said.  rrneck   Oct-29-09 01:37 PM   #124 
  - UPDATE - MORE INFORMATION  GreenStormCloud   Oct-29-09 09:56 AM   #114 
  - Sounds like a disgruntled ex-employee with a grudge. n/t  X_Digger   Oct-29-09 10:08 AM   #115 
  - No. Hanson was not the shooter.  GreenStormCloud   Oct-29-09 10:12 AM   #116 
     - Doh, that's what I get for skimming! n/t  X_Digger   Oct-29-09 10:29 AM   #117 
        - I had to read it twice to get that straight, too. N/T  GreenStormCloud   Oct-29-09 10:39 AM   #119 
  - So now we know:  GreenStormCloud   Oct-29-09 10:33 AM   #118 
  - But wait, that contrary to what everyone else was saying. I thought "there was more" to the story?  rd_kent   Oct-29-09 02:09 PM   #126 
  - But I was promised that the intruder would be a saint  JonQ   Oct-29-09 01:30 PM   #123 
  - Someone seems to have gotten tired of playing water polo and left the pool  friendly_iconoclast   Oct-29-09 06:45 PM   #127 
  - Happens every time. Start posting facts and the gun-grabbers run away. N/T  GreenStormCloud   Oct-29-09 09:27 PM   #128 
  - 2nd UPDATE: Investigation backs self-defense claim in Toledo shooting  GreenStormCloud   Nov-02-09 09:49 AM   #135 
  - Still waiting for the gun grabber to respond to the updates.  GreenStormCloud   Nov-07-09 08:27 AM   #136 
  - THIRD UPDATE: Sheriff: Man Exercised God-Given Right in Fatal Shooting  GreenStormCloud   Nov-07-09 09:03 AM   #137 
 

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