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MajorChode Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-10-09 03:43 PM
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  -Cops: Husband shot soccer mom as she chatted on webcam RamboLiberal  Oct-09-09 04:37 PM   #0 
  - Wow.  cliffordu   Oct-09-09 04:40 PM   #1 
  - Are the reports that the husband was a law enforcement officer true?  Fire_Medic_Dave   Oct-09-09 04:40 PM   #2 
  - Prison guard or was a prison guard and now working security  RamboLiberal   Oct-09-09 04:45 PM   #8 
     - Someone said parole officer.  Fire_Medic_Dave   Oct-09-09 04:50 PM   #17 
  - Maybe all these crazy gun people will "extinct" each other. nt  valerief   Oct-09-09 04:42 PM   #3 
  - Invariably "we" get caught up in their crossfire  Horse with no Name   Oct-09-09 04:44 PM   #4 
  - You got caught up in the "crossfire" of this particular incident?  Euromutt   Oct-10-09 06:40 PM   #144 
  - But, they just keep replicating.  MissMarple   Oct-09-09 04:56 PM   #25 
  - Not once they're dead. nt  valerief   Oct-09-09 05:01 PM   #29 
  - And why do they keep replicating?  Retired AF Dem   Oct-10-09 07:06 AM   #100 
     - Good reason. I can see the appeal.  MissMarple   Oct-10-09 03:00 PM   #136 
  - Except he "extinct"ed his wife.  Shell Beau   Oct-09-09 08:00 PM   #76 
  - Way to support domestic violence.  aikoaiko   Oct-10-09 08:31 AM   #109 
  - Live by the gun....  Cali_Democrat   Oct-09-09 04:44 PM   #5 
  - still wont stop the crzies or the criminals, all it means is that everyone becomes prey  vadawg   Oct-09-09 04:45 PM   #9 
  - Guns are illegal in most industrialized countries  Cali_Democrat   Oct-09-09 04:48 PM   #13 
     - We have more NON-GUN homicides then most countries....  Statistical   Oct-09-09 04:52 PM   #18 
     - We can still reduce overall murders if guns are banned IMO. n/t  Cali_Democrat   Oct-09-09 04:56 PM   #26 
     - No we can... to lower them we need so many changes in the general culture  nadinbrzezinski   Oct-09-09 05:00 PM   #28 
     - Until you provide the stats and the appropriate comparison that statement is squat.  LiberalFighter   Oct-09-09 05:19 PM   #40 
     - "PER CAPITA". Homicide rates are per capita. Look it up.n/t  Statistical   Oct-09-09 07:15 PM   #58 
     - Since you brought it up... you should bring it here.  LiberalFighter   Oct-09-09 08:21 PM   #79 
     - Here you go, as of 2005.  smoogatz   Oct-10-09 08:18 AM   #107 
     - Link please...  ljm2002   Oct-09-09 05:48 PM   #54 
     - Stats are found here:  Selatius   Oct-10-09 08:14 AM   #106 
     - According to the DoJ:  smoogatz   Oct-10-09 08:20 AM   #108 
     - That was the point of Michael Moore's "Bowling for Columbine"  Canuckistanian   Oct-09-09 08:48 PM   #82 
        - Thanks for noticing that that was his point.  Greyhound   Oct-10-09 04:54 AM   #93 
           - Life in many other industrialized counties...  spin   Oct-11-09 01:40 AM   #146 
     - and do you have any idea how easy it is to get a gun in a lot of these countries..  vadawg   Oct-09-09 05:12 PM   #36 
     - Which is why their per-capita gun deaths are so much higher than ours  jgraz   Oct-09-09 05:15 PM   #37 
        - nothing to do with that, all im saying is that if you ban guns, it isnt going to stop  vadawg   Oct-09-09 05:18 PM   #38 
           - but it will reduce the overall number of gun deaths n/t  Cali_Democrat   Oct-09-09 05:19 PM   #39 
           - All it would do in increase overall numbers of non gun deaths  Retired AF Dem   Oct-10-09 07:29 AM   #102 
           - Which in and of itself is meaningless.  krispos42   Oct-10-09 03:59 PM   #141 
           - So you should expect countries that ban guns to have comparable gun death rates  jgraz   Oct-09-09 05:19 PM   #41 
              - nope because they have different cultures from the US  vadawg   Oct-09-09 05:21 PM   #42 
                 - So it seems one approach is to stop promoting gun violence in our culture.  jgraz   Oct-09-09 05:28 PM   #44 
                    - nope aint ever going to happen, the US is unique in its views on guns  vadawg   Oct-09-09 05:30 PM   #45 
                    - We used to be unique in our views on African slaves. We changed.  jgraz   Oct-09-09 05:32 PM   #47 
                       - not at all, i think you will find everybody used africans as slaves from arabia, to the africans  vadawg   Oct-09-09 05:34 PM   #48 
                       - Nobody said anything about taking everyone's guns  jgraz   Oct-09-09 05:36 PM   #49 
                          - Take all of the illegal guns off the street. I'm in 100% agreement.  Fire_Medic_Dave   Oct-09-09 08:42 PM   #81 
                             - They don't want to stop criminals.  proteus_lives   Oct-10-09 04:53 AM   #92 
                                - Nope. Obvious strawman.  smoogatz   Oct-10-09 10:18 AM   #117 
                                   - Since you asked.  Fire_Medic_Dave   Oct-10-09 11:57 PM   #145 
                       - You honestly think our "view" on slavery was unique? Wow.  Statistical   Oct-09-09 07:17 PM   #60 
                          - Certainly in the legal framework and in how it was supported.  jgraz   Oct-09-09 11:30 PM   #85 
                    - So there should be an artificial limit on the number of guns?  krispos42   Oct-10-09 03:48 PM   #140 
                    - Enacting policy that is supposed to reduce the number of guns in circulation...  spin   Oct-11-09 01:46 AM   #147 
     - The gun nuts hate Obama cause they know new gun bans are coming soon. nt  cabluedem   Oct-10-09 09:30 AM   #113 
     - They hate Obama because they're racist nutjobs.  smoogatz   Oct-10-09 12:11 PM   #119 
     - Might want to check the news..  X_Digger   Oct-10-09 12:48 PM   #125 
        - It's not a new ban.  smoogatz   Oct-10-09 12:55 PM   #127 
        - Okay, okay, technically not new :P  X_Digger   Oct-10-09 01:02 PM   #129 
        - The assault weapons ban expired because it was useless...  spin   Oct-11-09 01:55 AM   #148 
        - Might Want To Check Your Wishful Thinking.  Paladin   Oct-10-09 12:57 PM   #128 
           - Not me..  X_Digger   Oct-10-09 01:05 PM   #130 
     - Unlikely  krispos42   Oct-10-09 03:46 PM   #139 
     - They have better social services  krispos42   Oct-10-09 03:45 PM   #138 
  - No thanks.  proteus_lives   Oct-10-09 04:47 AM   #90 
  - At this point, getting rid of the 2nd Amendment may actually provoke a violent civil war. nt  Selatius   Oct-10-09 07:41 AM   #105 
     - Sadly that is quite possible...  spin   Oct-11-09 02:05 AM   #149 
  - They sure loved their guns!  The_Casual_Observer   Oct-09-09 04:45 PM   #6 
  - Fully loaded handgun in her backpack on the front door  charlie   Oct-09-09 04:45 PM   #7 
  - Well that was her mistake, she should have had it in one hand while she typed with the other.  grytpype   Oct-09-09 04:47 PM   #11 
  - And where were the kids? Why weren't they packing heat?  jgraz   Oct-09-09 04:49 PM   #16 
     - I've never seen anyone besides you call for arming children.  Fire_Medic_Dave   Oct-09-09 04:57 PM   #27 
        - Not true. I've seen several people suggest you should be allowed to carry.  jgraz   Oct-09-09 05:05 PM   #33 
           - Do you have any links to prove your point?  Fire_Medic_Dave   Oct-09-09 07:37 PM   #68 
  - No kidding. n/t  EFerrari   Oct-09-09 04:56 PM   #24 
  - Exactly what I was thinking. nt  Jeep789   Oct-09-09 05:24 PM   #43 
  - Another blow for on-line romance while living with your spouse  jeffbr   Oct-09-09 04:46 PM   # 
  - You have a point there.  Tigress DEM   Oct-10-09 12:42 PM   #124 
  - I guarantee you, if Melanie had managed to shoot first, the gungeon would be celebrating her today.  jgraz   Oct-09-09 04:46 PM   #10 
  - Instead you are here rejoicing in her death so you can get on your soapbox.  Fire_Medic_Dave   Oct-09-09 04:53 PM   #19 
  - Wow, the pot calling the kettle a pot  jgraz   Oct-09-09 05:03 PM   #31 
     - Holy Geronimo Christ  charlie   Oct-09-09 05:38 PM   #50 
     - It's just an inability to process complex thoughts. You and jgraz may develop it one day.  Fire_Medic_Dave   Oct-09-09 07:44 PM   #70 
        - I hope we never develop your inability to process complex thoughts.  jgraz   Oct-09-09 07:57 PM   #72 
        - That one is priceless. I appreciate the support.  Fire_Medic_Dave   Oct-09-09 07:59 PM   #74 
        - Hi Dave!  Zix   Oct-10-09 06:05 AM   #97 
     - Imagine the joy in pissing both of you off that badly.  Fire_Medic_Dave   Oct-09-09 07:31 PM   #63 
        - I can't imagine your joy at using rape victims for your schoolyard taunts  jgraz   Oct-09-09 07:58 PM   #73 
           - The joy comes from your irrational anger. I do take some joy when women shoot men attempting rape.  Fire_Medic_Dave   Oct-09-09 07:59 PM   #75 
              - I'm sure it's all part of your rich fantasy life.  jgraz   Oct-09-09 10:43 PM   #84 
                 - I see your reading still needs work. Try hooked on phonics.  Fire_Medic_Dave   Oct-10-09 12:23 AM   #86 
  - I think most people would agree that having one person dead would be better than two  slackmaster   Oct-09-09 04:53 PM   #20 
     - And the option of having no people dead didn't occur to you?  jgraz   Oct-09-09 05:04 PM   #32 
        - The problem is it didn't occur to her husband. Once again the important things escape you.  Fire_Medic_Dave   Oct-09-09 07:46 PM   #71 
        - Her husband took away that option when he decided to murder her  slackmaster   Oct-09-09 08:51 PM   #83 
  - Ugh. The scary part of this  LisaM   Oct-09-09 04:48 PM   #12 
  - I am really a very sensitve, caring person.........  Sukie   Oct-09-09 04:49 PM   #14 
  - You can't muster up compassion for a woman murdered by an abusive husband?  Fire_Medic_Dave   Oct-09-09 04:54 PM   #21 
     - Excuse me? Why do people on this board react to another  Sukie   Oct-09-09 05:02 PM   #30 
     - Because you're threatening his Second Amendment binky  jgraz   Oct-09-09 05:06 PM   #35 
     - Reading is fundamental. There are reading classes for adult learners, most are free.  Fire_Medic_Dave   Oct-10-09 12:30 AM   #87 
     - I'm just expressing my opinion about your lack of compassion for an abused, murdered woman.  Fire_Medic_Dave   Oct-09-09 07:35 PM   #66 
     - She was proud of bringing a loaded gun to a kids' game  lolly   Oct-09-09 05:06 PM   #34 
        - That's really funny. Thanks for the laugh.  Fire_Medic_Dave   Oct-09-09 07:37 PM   #67 
  - too bad she didn't have her gun  noiretextatique   Oct-09-09 04:49 PM   #15 
  - I obviously worked out far better for her, that she was unarmed.  Fire_Medic_Dave   Oct-09-09 04:56 PM   #23 
     - even if she had a gun, her ending might have been the same  noiretextatique   Oct-09-09 06:20 PM   #56 
     - So things would be better or no different. Makes sense to me.  Fire_Medic_Dave   Oct-09-09 07:32 PM   #64 
     - But she was armed  lolly   Oct-09-09 07:17 PM   #59 
        - What are you talking about?  Fire_Medic_Dave   Oct-09-09 07:34 PM   #65 
  - My sympathies are with the children left behind  Zomby Woof   Oct-09-09 04:55 PM   #22 
  - +1  JNelson6563   Oct-09-09 05:43 PM   #52 
  - Did she carry a gun because she was afraid of her spouse? nt  OnceUponTimeOnTheNet   Oct-09-09 05:31 PM   #46 
  - She filed for divorce, but still lived in the same house.  Ikonoklast   Oct-09-09 05:47 PM   #53 
  - Wanted the house perhaps? Very Sad from all angles RE:  OnceUponTimeOnTheNet   Oct-09-09 05:57 PM   #55 
  - not when her loaded gun was in her backpack hanging on the front door  TorchTheWitch   Oct-09-09 06:39 PM   #57 
  - Your explanation is clearly the only logical one. LOL. You guys are really funny tonight.  Fire_Medic_Dave   Oct-09-09 07:42 PM   #69 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Oct-09-09 08:31 PM   #80 
  - She open carried at her kids soccer games. Was she afraid of the kids? n/t  JTFrog   Oct-10-09 06:15 AM   #98 
  - He's dead. She's dead. They worshipped guns. Their god took them.  TexasObserver   Oct-09-09 05:43 PM   #51 
  - Yep.  lolly   Oct-09-09 07:20 PM   #61 
  - Your title is despicable. The rest of it is quite funny though.  Fire_Medic_Dave   Oct-09-09 08:01 PM   #77 
  - Your penchant for insulting hyperbole is despicable.  TexasObserver   Oct-10-09 04:34 AM   #88 
  - Perhaps it's despicable to someone who worships guns  MajorChode   Oct-10-09 04:58 AM   #94 
     - A gun is a tool to be used if it becomes necessary to do so.  armyowalgreens   Oct-10-09 05:57 AM   #96 
     - Exactly when did I mock anyone's death?  MajorChode   Oct-10-09 07:18 AM   #101 
        - Maybe a better way of putting it would have been "You are making a mockery of their deaths"...  armyowalgreens   Oct-10-09 07:34 AM   #103 
           - Maybe a better way of putting it would have been "You made a mistake and now you won't admit it"  MajorChode   Oct-10-09 12:54 PM   #126 
              - I dont need to pretend. The comments you made prove my point.  armyowalgreens   Oct-10-09 06:32 PM   #143 
     - It's really the callousness about the murder of an abused woman that's despicable.  Fire_Medic_Dave   Oct-10-09 11:45 AM   #118 
        - Trivializing the suffering of rape victims  smoogatz   Oct-10-09 12:25 PM   #120 
        - As if I did that.  Fire_Medic_Dave   Oct-10-09 12:34 PM   #122 
           - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Oct-10-09 12:42 PM   #123 
        - Time to send up the flag  MajorChode   Oct-10-09 02:04 PM   #134 
           - I care about the women being abused. Feel free to go the other way on it and defend the abusers.  Fire_Medic_Dave   Oct-10-09 02:08 PM   #135 
              - Right...  MajorChode   Oct-10-09 03:43 PM   #137 
  - No, because whether this killing happened with a gun, knife or club, she would be just as dead  aikoaiko   Oct-10-09 08:38 AM   #110 
  - How does a single incident confirm a hypothesis?  Euromutt   Oct-11-09 06:32 AM   #150 
  - I can't be smug about this. What a horrible tragedy for them, their kids, their family...  Bucky   Oct-09-09 07:24 PM   #62 
  - Yep. All of that.  Shell Beau   Oct-09-09 08:07 PM   #78 
  - +1 This is a horrible tragedy. These kids lost both parents...  armyowalgreens   Oct-10-09 04:42 AM   #89 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Oct-10-09 04:51 AM   #91 
  - Can't argue with that. n/t  Greyhound   Oct-10-09 04:59 AM   #95 
  - +1. i kept seeing thread coming up. couldnt understand what there was so much to talk about  seabeyond   Oct-10-09 06:39 AM   #99 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Oct-10-09 07:34 AM   #104 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Oct-10-09 09:20 AM   #111 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Oct-10-09 09:47 AM   #115 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Oct-10-09 09:37 AM   #114 
  - This lady had been  H2O Man   Oct-10-09 09:22 AM   #112 
  - That's cold  slackmaster   Oct-10-09 09:49 AM   #116 
  - U of Penn study shows gun owners 4.5 times more likely to be shot  smoogatz   Oct-10-09 12:31 PM   #121 
  - It actually shows that criminals engaging in criminal activity with guns are more likely to be shot.  Fire_Medic_Dave   Oct-10-09 01:13 PM   #131 
  - Except it doesn't say that..  X_Digger   Oct-10-09 01:24 PM   #132 
  - To which I will add the point I've made in the pre-existing two threads about this study  Euromutt   Oct-11-09 06:57 AM   #152 
  - And their kids are about a Brazilian more times at risk than otherwise..  TexasObserver   Oct-10-09 01:32 PM   #133 
     - One incident is correlation?  Euromutt   Oct-11-09 06:38 AM   #151 
  - Another reason to ban guns  ajax24550   Oct-10-09 04:30 PM   #142 

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