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X_Digger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 11:01 PM
Response to Reply #103
120. No funny glasses required.. here, in bold..
"We also need to update existing laws so that all private-party gun sales, not just those at gun shows, are subject to the same safeguards now in place for gun purchases from licensed dealers."

To me, that reads as seeking to "enact legislation against private sales".
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  -Study: Gun Shows Main Source Of Guns Used In Crime kpete  Sep-02-09 10:44 AM   #0 
  - The conclusion does not follow logically from the data, and does not agree with DoJ survey results  slackmaster   Sep-02-09 10:49 AM   #1 
  - The Girl Who Killed Steve McNair Got A Gun From a Friend  NashVegas   Sep-02-09 10:51 AM   #2 
  - She got the gun from a convicted murderer for whom it was illegal to possess.  Fire_Medic_Dave   Sep-02-09 11:08 AM   #18 
     - fucking duh  iverglas   Sep-02-09 12:56 PM   #44 
        - I'll be praying for you Iverglas.  Fire_Medic_Dave   Sep-04-09 10:39 PM   #97 
  - The authors own data cites show that only 13% come from shows.  Xithras   Sep-02-09 11:03 AM   #13 
  - The report is filled with photos of Nazi crap and other nastiness  slackmaster   Sep-02-09 11:04 AM   #15 
  - This thread actually prompted me to take a look at "The Turner Diaries"  Euromutt   Sep-05-09 03:41 AM   #101 
  - The priceless hypocrisy of the gun grabbers, it never ceases.  Fire_Medic_Dave   Sep-02-09 11:10 AM   #19 
  - What a stupid fucking statistic. WEASEL ALERT  imdjh   Sep-02-09 11:13 AM   #21 
  - The relevant figure is the 2% figure given for acquisitions at gun shows and flea markets  slackmaster   Sep-02-09 12:41 PM   #42 
  - "family, friends, a street buy, or an illegal source for 80%"  iverglas   Sep-02-09 12:56 PM   #45 
  - This is because gunshows have magical powers.  Tim01   Sep-02-09 10:52 AM   #3 
  - "...gun shows are no different than the rest of florida."  RaleighNCDUer   Sep-02-09 12:16 PM   #39 
     - Why the panic?  PavePusher   Sep-02-09 11:17 PM   #57 
        - why the disingenuous misrepresentation?  iverglas   Sep-03-09 10:08 AM   #69 
           - "disingenuous misrepresentation" indeed.  PavePusher   Sep-03-09 08:48 PM   #77 
              - I think I've seen you bid me good night  iverglas   Sep-03-09 10:19 PM   #80 
  - Here's a solution to the loophole  WeDidIt   Sep-02-09 10:52 AM   #4 
  - That is how it's done here in California, for ALL private sales (not just at gun shows)  slackmaster   Sep-02-09 10:53 AM   #6 
  - Even between parent and child?  derby378   Sep-02-09 10:55 AM   #9 
  - All transfers of ownership, regardless  WeDidIt   Sep-02-09 11:06 AM   #17 
  - California is has a decent system, and doesn't require it for parent/child transfers.  Xithras   Sep-02-09 11:41 AM   #30 
  - That's called gun registration, and it's expensive. No thanks. There are better ways. nt  Tim01   Sep-02-09 11:11 AM   # 
  - If it were only that easy it would have been done years ago..  pipoman   Sep-03-09 05:17 AM   #62 
  - Please look op the definition of "well regulated militia". It does not  Hoopla Phil   Sep-07-09 09:17 AM   #116 
  - Huh? The author seems to think all private transactions happen at gunshows  Recursion   Sep-02-09 10:53 AM   #5 
  - No, you are not confused  slackmaster   Sep-02-09 10:53 AM   #7 
  - "I'm confused here."  iverglas   Sep-02-09 12:59 PM   #46 
  - And this is LBN, please leave it here  sandnsea   Sep-02-09 10:54 AM   #8 
  - I concur. Leave this idiotic study and it's false conclusions here to be picked apart.  Fire_Medic_Dave   Sep-02-09 11:14 AM   #22 
  - You jinxed it  slackmaster   Sep-02-09 11:41 AM   #31 
  - How does this study comport with those which indicate other sources?  SteveM   Sep-02-09 10:59 AM   #10 
  - I didn't know you were a criminal, Steve  slackmaster   Sep-02-09 10:59 AM   #11 
  - Strange things happen when you find yourself retired.  SteveM   Sep-02-09 11:24 AM   #24 
  - Yeah, call me cynical  Euromutt   Sep-02-09 12:08 PM   #37 
     - Oh, it's by Garen Wintemute!  Euromutt   Sep-02-09 12:11 PM   #38 
        - Pretty much, and every publication by that group is about firearms, not the real causes of violence  slackmaster   Sep-02-09 12:34 PM   #41 
        - It's not what you'd call a group  Euromutt   Sep-03-09 06:14 AM   #63 
        - jezus fucking christ  iverglas   Sep-03-09 10:28 PM   #82 
           - Mmm, that doesn't work. You research genuine problems...  SteveM   Sep-07-09 11:23 AM   #117 
        - ah, yes; what would he know?  iverglas   Sep-02-09 01:03 PM   #47 
           - ER Docs  Treo   Sep-02-09 01:29 PM   #49 
           - I dunno  iverglas   Sep-02-09 01:41 PM   #50 
              - Right at home here, aren't ya?  Treo   Sep-02-09 04:36 PM   #53 
           - I go to a doctor to check my colon, not pack it with more shit. n/t  X_Digger   Sep-02-09 02:30 PM   #51 
           - "Professors" and "physicians" are OK as long as they don't work on my car (nt)  SteveM   Sep-07-09 11:25 AM   #118 
  - Gun shows also ground zero for domestic terrorists.  onehandle   Sep-02-09 11:01 AM   #12 
  - ...and a gun show once turned me into a newt!  MercutioATC   Sep-02-09 11:06 AM   #16 
  - And certain truck-rental agencies. (nt)  SteveM   Sep-02-09 11:20 AM   #23 
  - This is one of the shames of America. nt  jasi2006   Sep-02-09 11:03 AM   #14 
  - If it were only true.  Fire_Medic_Dave   Sep-02-09 11:11 AM   #20 
  - The shame is that gun show prices aren't much lower than elsewhere (nt)  SteveM   Sep-02-09 11:25 AM   #25 
     - True Dat.  proteus_lives   Sep-03-09 02:35 AM   #60 
     - Here in the DFW area gun show prices tend to be about 20% lower. N/T  GreenStormCloud   Sep-07-09 11:47 AM   #119 
  - since you posted in the gungeon, the apologists and proliferationists will swarm the thread  villager   Sep-02-09 11:26 AM   #26 
  - You mean provide analysis that shows the "conclusion" is not supported by the facts?  Statistical   Sep-02-09 11:28 AM   #27 
  - Like the stat that 85% of guns used in crimes passed through at least one such sale?  villager   Sep-02-09 11:42 AM   #33 
     - Here's a clue:  AtheistCrusader   Sep-02-09 11:57 AM   #35 
     - One private sale? Easy to believe, because most criminals can't pass the background check  slackmaster   Sep-02-09 12:25 PM   #40 
     - Like this "gunshow"  Statistical   Sep-02-09 12:42 PM   #43 
  - The only thing that needs to be done is to keep known violent criminals incarcerated  slackmaster   Sep-02-09 11:37 AM   #28 
  - yeah, fuck that Constitution thing  iverglas   Sep-02-09 01:04 PM   #48 
     - How is incarcerating violent felons for their crimes unconstitutional?  Fire_Medic_Dave   Sep-04-09 10:42 PM   #98 
  - Anti-2nd amendment radicals are a small, loud group.  Tim01   Sep-02-09 11:42 AM   #32 
  - worse  kpete   Sep-02-09 11:38 AM   #29 
  - Holy Irresponsible Headlines, Batman!  X_Digger   Sep-02-09 11:54 AM   #34 
  - How does one respond to something so stupid? NT  Treo   Sep-02-09 11:58 AM   #36 
  - A study shows that  JonQ   Sep-02-09 04:23 PM   #52 
  - Let's look at this article.  gorfle   Sep-02-09 05:18 PM   #54 
  - "holy fucking shit, imagine the audacity of people" who don't read  iverglas   Sep-02-09 07:26 PM   #55 
     - I read chapter 3: "Buying and Selling". Dr. Wintermute needs to get a lawyer.  friendly_iconoclast   Sep-02-09 11:02 PM   #56 
     - maybe you can get a lawyer  iverglas   Sep-03-09 08:20 AM   #65 
     - misprision of a felony is not illegal in most jurisdictions hth  paulsby   Sep-05-09 01:06 AM   #99 
     - If someone is obviously buying a firearm for someone else, is that legal?  Treo   Sep-03-09 12:52 AM   #58 
     - if someone behaves like a disingenuous jerk  iverglas   Sep-03-09 08:20 AM   #66 
        - That's A Question That Only You Can Answer Dear NT  Treo   Sep-03-09 10:02 AM   #68 
           - it was a rhetorical question  iverglas   Sep-03-09 10:09 AM   #70 
     - Unfortunately for Wintermute, I *did* read it- it's full of inaccuracies  friendly_iconoclast   Sep-03-09 03:04 AM   #61 
     - you people and your "assault rifle" meme  iverglas   Sep-03-09 08:22 AM   #67 
        - Mean...not meme  raimius   Sep-03-09 10:37 AM   #71 
        - well  iverglas   Sep-03-09 11:09 AM   #72 
        - Are you saying fact checking is optional if your heart is in the right place?  friendly_iconoclast   Sep-03-09 11:27 AM   #73 
           - I'm saying that no normal people  iverglas   Sep-03-09 11:49 AM   #74 
              - Hope he isn't making the same error between H1N1 and regular flu  friendly_iconoclast   Sep-03-09 01:24 PM   #75 
              - Pointing out error is 'diversionary'? Ohhh-kay...  friendly_iconoclast   Sep-03-09 05:07 PM   #76 
     - I have not read the actual report yet  gorfle   Sep-03-09 07:05 AM   #64 
     - So you would agree the news story is ridiculously inaccurate. That's good to see.  Fire_Medic_Dave   Sep-03-09 11:20 PM   #84 
  - A picture is worth a thousand words  krispos42   Sep-03-09 01:44 AM   #59 
  - 3rd_Grade_Propaganda  Bushido1979   Sep-03-09 09:53 PM   #78 
  - Nice find..  X_Digger   Sep-03-09 09:58 PM   #79 
  - you disagree???  iverglas   Sep-03-09 10:31 PM   #83 
  - I don't disaggree.  OneTenthofOnePercent   Sep-04-09 12:10 PM   #87 
     - wtf??  iverglas   Sep-04-09 12:50 PM   #90 
        - Did you read the article?  X_Digger   Sep-04-09 06:23 PM   #96 
           - please may I borrow you funny specs?  iverglas   Sep-05-09 06:09 PM   #103 
              - No funny glasses required.. here, in bold..  X_Digger   Sep-07-09 11:01 PM   #120 
  - That's a nice cop out  JonQ   Sep-04-09 12:12 PM   #88 
     - And give it a few more months  Euromutt   Sep-06-09 10:51 AM   #110 
        - Perhaps someone at UC Davis noted the rather unscientific nature of this  friendly_iconoclast   Sep-07-09 01:16 AM   #115 
  - No.1 with a FoxNews link!  iverglas   Sep-03-09 10:25 PM   #81 
  - considering irrelevant fields of study:  Bushido1979   Sep-04-09 01:39 PM   #92 
     - lalala  iverglas   Sep-05-09 06:13 PM   #104 
        - So, when are you giving up your computer, CD/DVD burner, and DVR?  friendly_iconoclast   Sep-05-09 09:29 PM   #107 
        - if your post related to a single thing in my post  iverglas   Sep-06-09 03:24 PM   #111 
           - Just pointing out your special pleading about guns, my dear iverglas  friendly_iconoclast   Sep-06-09 04:03 PM   #112 
              - if your post related to a single thing in my post  iverglas   Sep-06-09 04:28 PM   #113 
        - easy to ignore iverglas now  Bushido1979   Sep-06-09 06:40 PM   #114 
  - Wow, something from a Fox outlet that actually is fair and balanced  slackmaster   Sep-04-09 08:49 AM   #86 
  - The proportion of all gun sales nationwide that occur at gun shows is relatively small.  Fire_Medic_Dave   Sep-03-09 11:21 PM   #85 
  - I think we should all step back for a moment and consider the absurdity of this study  JonQ   Sep-04-09 12:20 PM   #89 
  - we don't need to go very far to see the untruth in your post  iverglas   Sep-04-09 12:52 PM   #91 
     - I'm sorry that you are having difficulty seeing the rather obvious  JonQ   Sep-04-09 01:43 PM   #93 
  - Should we ban all private-party sales?  LAGC   Sep-04-09 02:10 PM   #94 
  - Sadly that is what they are after  JonQ   Sep-04-09 02:57 PM   #95 
  - what a strange question  iverglas   Sep-05-09 06:16 PM   #105 
  - I'm going to the gun show here in Tucson...  PavePusher   Sep-05-09 03:41 AM   #100 
  - researchers rec'd $175,000 from the Joyce Foundation.  Tejas   Sep-05-09 12:41 PM   #102 
     - I just love a little anti-intellectualism  iverglas   Sep-05-09 06:18 PM   #106 
        - After all money never affects research. The drug companies are great examples.  Fire_Medic_Dave   Sep-05-09 09:50 PM   #108 
           - A paid shill is a paid shill -unless you agree with them  friendly_iconoclast   Sep-05-09 10:10 PM   #109 

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