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Fri Sep-04-09 08:49 AM
Response to Reply #78 |
| 86. Wow, something from a Fox outlet that actually is fair and balanced |
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Edited on Fri Sep-04-09 08:50 AM by slackmaster
Thanks for posting that, and welcome to DU.
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| -Study: Gun Shows Main Source Of Guns Used In Crime |
kpete |
Sep-02-09 10:44 AM |
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The conclusion does not follow logically from the data, and does not agree with DoJ survey results |
slackmaster |
Sep-02-09 10:49 AM |
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The Girl Who Killed Steve McNair Got A Gun From a Friend |
NashVegas |
Sep-02-09 10:51 AM |
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She got the gun from a convicted murderer for whom it was illegal to possess. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Sep-02-09 11:08 AM |
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fucking duh |
iverglas |
Sep-02-09 12:56 PM |
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I'll be praying for you Iverglas. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Sep-04-09 10:39 PM |
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The authors own data cites show that only 13% come from shows. |
Xithras |
Sep-02-09 11:03 AM |
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The report is filled with photos of Nazi crap and other nastiness |
slackmaster |
Sep-02-09 11:04 AM |
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This thread actually prompted me to take a look at "The Turner Diaries" |
Euromutt |
Sep-05-09 03:41 AM |
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The priceless hypocrisy of the gun grabbers, it never ceases. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Sep-02-09 11:10 AM |
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What a stupid fucking statistic. WEASEL ALERT |
imdjh |
Sep-02-09 11:13 AM |
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The relevant figure is the 2% figure given for acquisitions at gun shows and flea markets |
slackmaster |
Sep-02-09 12:41 PM |
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"family, friends, a street buy, or an illegal source for 80%" |
iverglas |
Sep-02-09 12:56 PM |
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This is because gunshows have magical powers. |
Tim01 |
Sep-02-09 10:52 AM |
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"...gun shows are no different than the rest of florida." |
RaleighNCDUer |
Sep-02-09 12:16 PM |
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Why the panic? |
PavePusher |
Sep-02-09 11:17 PM |
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why the disingenuous misrepresentation? |
iverglas |
Sep-03-09 10:08 AM |
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"disingenuous misrepresentation" indeed. |
PavePusher |
Sep-03-09 08:48 PM |
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I think I've seen you bid me good night |
iverglas |
Sep-03-09 10:19 PM |
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Here's a solution to the loophole |
WeDidIt |
Sep-02-09 10:52 AM |
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That is how it's done here in California, for ALL private sales (not just at gun shows) |
slackmaster |
Sep-02-09 10:53 AM |
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Even between parent and child? |
derby378 |
Sep-02-09 10:55 AM |
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All transfers of ownership, regardless |
WeDidIt |
Sep-02-09 11:06 AM |
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California is has a decent system, and doesn't require it for parent/child transfers. |
Xithras |
Sep-02-09 11:41 AM |
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That's called gun registration, and it's expensive. No thanks. There are better ways. nt |
Tim01 |
Sep-02-09 11:11 AM |
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If it were only that easy it would have been done years ago.. |
pipoman |
Sep-03-09 05:17 AM |
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Please look op the definition of "well regulated militia". It does not |
Hoopla Phil |
Sep-07-09 09:17 AM |
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Huh? The author seems to think all private transactions happen at gunshows |
Recursion |
Sep-02-09 10:53 AM |
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No, you are not confused |
slackmaster |
Sep-02-09 10:53 AM |
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"I'm confused here." |
iverglas |
Sep-02-09 12:59 PM |
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And this is LBN, please leave it here |
sandnsea |
Sep-02-09 10:54 AM |
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I concur. Leave this idiotic study and it's false conclusions here to be picked apart. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Sep-02-09 11:14 AM |
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You jinxed it |
slackmaster |
Sep-02-09 11:41 AM |
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How does this study comport with those which indicate other sources? |
SteveM |
Sep-02-09 10:59 AM |
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I didn't know you were a criminal, Steve |
slackmaster |
Sep-02-09 10:59 AM |
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Strange things happen when you find yourself retired. |
SteveM |
Sep-02-09 11:24 AM |
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Yeah, call me cynical |
Euromutt |
Sep-02-09 12:08 PM |
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Oh, it's by Garen Wintemute! |
Euromutt |
Sep-02-09 12:11 PM |
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Pretty much, and every publication by that group is about firearms, not the real causes of violence |
slackmaster |
Sep-02-09 12:34 PM |
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It's not what you'd call a group |
Euromutt |
Sep-03-09 06:14 AM |
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jezus fucking christ |
iverglas |
Sep-03-09 10:28 PM |
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Mmm, that doesn't work. You research genuine problems... |
SteveM |
Sep-07-09 11:23 AM |
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ah, yes; what would he know? |
iverglas |
Sep-02-09 01:03 PM |
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ER Docs |
Treo |
Sep-02-09 01:29 PM |
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I dunno |
iverglas |
Sep-02-09 01:41 PM |
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Right at home here, aren't ya? |
Treo |
Sep-02-09 04:36 PM |
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I go to a doctor to check my colon, not pack it with more shit. n/t |
X_Digger |
Sep-02-09 02:30 PM |
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"Professors" and "physicians" are OK as long as they don't work on my car (nt) |
SteveM |
Sep-07-09 11:25 AM |
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Gun shows also ground zero for domestic terrorists. |
onehandle |
Sep-02-09 11:01 AM |
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...and a gun show once turned me into a newt! |
MercutioATC |
Sep-02-09 11:06 AM |
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And certain truck-rental agencies. (nt) |
SteveM |
Sep-02-09 11:20 AM |
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This is one of the shames of America. nt |
jasi2006 |
Sep-02-09 11:03 AM |
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If it were only true. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Sep-02-09 11:11 AM |
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The shame is that gun show prices aren't much lower than elsewhere (nt) |
SteveM |
Sep-02-09 11:25 AM |
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True Dat. |
proteus_lives |
Sep-03-09 02:35 AM |
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Here in the DFW area gun show prices tend to be about 20% lower. N/T |
GreenStormCloud |
Sep-07-09 11:47 AM |
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since you posted in the gungeon, the apologists and proliferationists will swarm the thread |
villager |
Sep-02-09 11:26 AM |
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You mean provide analysis that shows the "conclusion" is not supported by the facts? |
Statistical |
Sep-02-09 11:28 AM |
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Like the stat that 85% of guns used in crimes passed through at least one such sale? |
villager |
Sep-02-09 11:42 AM |
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Here's a clue: |
AtheistCrusader |
Sep-02-09 11:57 AM |
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One private sale? Easy to believe, because most criminals can't pass the background check |
slackmaster |
Sep-02-09 12:25 PM |
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Like this "gunshow" |
Statistical |
Sep-02-09 12:42 PM |
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The only thing that needs to be done is to keep known violent criminals incarcerated |
slackmaster |
Sep-02-09 11:37 AM |
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yeah, fuck that Constitution thing |
iverglas |
Sep-02-09 01:04 PM |
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How is incarcerating violent felons for their crimes unconstitutional? |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Sep-04-09 10:42 PM |
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Anti-2nd amendment radicals are a small, loud group. |
Tim01 |
Sep-02-09 11:42 AM |
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worse |
kpete |
Sep-02-09 11:38 AM |
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Holy Irresponsible Headlines, Batman! |
X_Digger |
Sep-02-09 11:54 AM |
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How does one respond to something so stupid? NT |
Treo |
Sep-02-09 11:58 AM |
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A study shows that |
JonQ |
Sep-02-09 04:23 PM |
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Let's look at this article. |
gorfle |
Sep-02-09 05:18 PM |
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"holy fucking shit, imagine the audacity of people" who don't read |
iverglas |
Sep-02-09 07:26 PM |
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I read chapter 3: "Buying and Selling". Dr. Wintermute needs to get a lawyer. |
friendly_iconoclast |
Sep-02-09 11:02 PM |
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maybe you can get a lawyer |
iverglas |
Sep-03-09 08:20 AM |
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misprision of a felony is not illegal in most jurisdictions hth |
paulsby |
Sep-05-09 01:06 AM |
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If someone is obviously buying a firearm for someone else, is that legal? |
Treo |
Sep-03-09 12:52 AM |
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if someone behaves like a disingenuous jerk |
iverglas |
Sep-03-09 08:20 AM |
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That's A Question That Only You Can Answer Dear NT |
Treo |
Sep-03-09 10:02 AM |
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it was a rhetorical question |
iverglas |
Sep-03-09 10:09 AM |
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Unfortunately for Wintermute, I *did* read it- it's full of inaccuracies |
friendly_iconoclast |
Sep-03-09 03:04 AM |
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you people and your "assault rifle" meme |
iverglas |
Sep-03-09 08:22 AM |
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Mean...not meme |
raimius |
Sep-03-09 10:37 AM |
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well |
iverglas |
Sep-03-09 11:09 AM |
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Are you saying fact checking is optional if your heart is in the right place? |
friendly_iconoclast |
Sep-03-09 11:27 AM |
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I'm saying that no normal people |
iverglas |
Sep-03-09 11:49 AM |
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Hope he isn't making the same error between H1N1 and regular flu |
friendly_iconoclast |
Sep-03-09 01:24 PM |
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Pointing out error is 'diversionary'? Ohhh-kay... |
friendly_iconoclast |
Sep-03-09 05:07 PM |
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I have not read the actual report yet |
gorfle |
Sep-03-09 07:05 AM |
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So you would agree the news story is ridiculously inaccurate. That's good to see. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Sep-03-09 11:20 PM |
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A picture is worth a thousand words |
krispos42 |
Sep-03-09 01:44 AM |
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3rd_Grade_Propaganda |
Bushido1979 |
Sep-03-09 09:53 PM |
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Nice find.. |
X_Digger |
Sep-03-09 09:58 PM |
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you disagree??? |
iverglas |
Sep-03-09 10:31 PM |
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I don't disaggree. |
OneTenthofOnePercent |
Sep-04-09 12:10 PM |
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wtf?? |
iverglas |
Sep-04-09 12:50 PM |
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Did you read the article? |
X_Digger |
Sep-04-09 06:23 PM |
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please may I borrow you funny specs? |
iverglas |
Sep-05-09 06:09 PM |
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No funny glasses required.. here, in bold.. |
X_Digger |
Sep-07-09 11:01 PM |
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That's a nice cop out |
JonQ |
Sep-04-09 12:12 PM |
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And give it a few more months |
Euromutt |
Sep-06-09 10:51 AM |
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Perhaps someone at UC Davis noted the rather unscientific nature of this |
friendly_iconoclast |
Sep-07-09 01:16 AM |
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No.1 with a FoxNews link! |
iverglas |
Sep-03-09 10:25 PM |
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considering irrelevant fields of study: |
Bushido1979 |
Sep-04-09 01:39 PM |
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lalala |
iverglas |
Sep-05-09 06:13 PM |
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So, when are you giving up your computer, CD/DVD burner, and DVR? |
friendly_iconoclast |
Sep-05-09 09:29 PM |
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if your post related to a single thing in my post |
iverglas |
Sep-06-09 03:24 PM |
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Just pointing out your special pleading about guns, my dear iverglas |
friendly_iconoclast |
Sep-06-09 04:03 PM |
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if your post related to a single thing in my post |
iverglas |
Sep-06-09 04:28 PM |
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easy to ignore iverglas now |
Bushido1979 |
Sep-06-09 06:40 PM |
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Wow, something from a Fox outlet that actually is fair and balanced |
slackmaster |
Sep-04-09 08:49 AM |
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The proportion of all gun sales nationwide that occur at gun shows is relatively small. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Sep-03-09 11:21 PM |
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I think we should all step back for a moment and consider the absurdity of this study |
JonQ |
Sep-04-09 12:20 PM |
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we don't need to go very far to see the untruth in your post |
iverglas |
Sep-04-09 12:52 PM |
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I'm sorry that you are having difficulty seeing the rather obvious |
JonQ |
Sep-04-09 01:43 PM |
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Should we ban all private-party sales? |
LAGC |
Sep-04-09 02:10 PM |
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Sadly that is what they are after |
JonQ |
Sep-04-09 02:57 PM |
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what a strange question |
iverglas |
Sep-05-09 06:16 PM |
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I'm going to the gun show here in Tucson... |
PavePusher |
Sep-05-09 03:41 AM |
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researchers rec'd $175,000 from the Joyce Foundation. |
Tejas |
Sep-05-09 12:41 PM |
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I just love a little anti-intellectualism |
iverglas |
Sep-05-09 06:18 PM |
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After all money never affects research. The drug companies are great examples. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Sep-05-09 09:50 PM |
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A paid shill is a paid shill -unless you agree with them |
friendly_iconoclast |
Sep-05-09 10:10 PM |
#109 |
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