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paulsby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-01-09 12:31 PM
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32. canard #4
so happy to see it.

the idea that by RECOGNIZING the right of people within a group to arm themselves, that we are ARMING "everyone" (note the language above) in that group.

ah, the illogic.

so, if it is legal for all women who live in public housing to have abortions, we are aborting EVERY public housing baby?

same illogic.

canard #4.

for the record, canard #4 is easily refuted. nobody is arming EvERYBODY in public housing. it's a lie on its face
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  -Gun Rights, took another good positive step forward virginia mountainman  Aug-31-09 08:08 PM   #0 
  - Wasn't she just whining about gun control going nowhere?  vincna   Aug-31-09 08:24 PM   #1 
  - If you mean by civil rights victory that we must all live in fear of each other  Old and In the Way   Aug-31-09 08:27 PM   #2 
  - I foresee a spate of drug dealer deaths..  X_Digger   Aug-31-09 08:36 PM   #3 
  - Who proposed arming everyone in public housing?  Fire_Medic_Dave   Aug-31-09 08:36 PM   #4 
  - Drug gangs often take over public housing units to base their operations out of  davepc   Aug-31-09 08:40 PM   #5 
  - Well, we could legalize drugs and take away the key profit motive that  Old and In the Way   Sep-01-09 12:56 AM   #18 
     - I doubt you'll find many supporters of the War on Drugs here.  davepc   Sep-01-09 02:36 AM   #19 
  - Criminals Always Have Guns  TiredOldMan   Aug-31-09 09:04 PM   #6 
  - For criminals to have guns, someone has to manufacture, import, distribute and sell them.  sharesunited   Aug-31-09 09:52 PM   #7 
     - It's not difficult.  TiredOldMan   Aug-31-09 09:59 PM   #8 
     - Dig it ...homemade open bolt subguns  Katya Mullethov   Sep-01-09 06:08 PM   #40 
     - There are 100 million or so street guns. What is your plan to get rid of them  Statistical   Aug-31-09 10:01 PM   #9 
     - All guns start out as "lawful." Stop making / importing new guns and ammo. Cap the well.  sharesunited   Aug-31-09 10:11 PM   #11 
        - Drugs are scarce and expensive? LOL  Statistical   Aug-31-09 10:14 PM   #12 
        - Attrition reduces their prevalence over time (however long it takes)  sharesunited   Aug-31-09 10:27 PM   #13 
           - "However long it takes"  Statistical   Aug-31-09 10:51 PM   #14 
           - Increasing value over time would have another consequence that you refuse to acknowledge  slackmaster   Sep-01-09 09:58 AM   #25 
        - "All guns start out as 'lawful'"? Depends on the local gun laws, doesn't it?  Euromutt   Sep-01-09 04:56 AM   #21 
        - "scarce and expensive"  paulsby   Sep-01-09 12:33 PM   #33 
        - Guns and Drugs  Treo   Sep-01-09 02:06 PM   #36 
     - Gotta ask...  tortoise1956   Sep-01-09 08:28 PM   #45 
  - So you plan is to arm only the criminals? nt  Tim01   Aug-31-09 10:07 PM   #10 
  - He refuses to see the conseqences of his ideas.  proteus_lives   Sep-01-09 12:26 AM   #15 
  - Actually. The "Great Social Experiment"  virginia mountainman   Sep-01-09 12:29 AM   #16 
  - Great!  Old and In the Way   Sep-01-09 12:49 AM   #17 
  - No one is saying "Arm everyone"  virginia mountainman   Sep-01-09 02:40 AM   #20 
  - Riiight  pipoman   Sep-01-09 05:33 AM   #22 
  - As guns have gone up, crime has gone down..  X_Digger   Sep-01-09 08:40 AM   #23 
  - no way - #of guns going up means increasing deaths.  samsingh   Sep-01-09 07:37 PM   #43 
     - So some think..  X_Digger   Sep-01-09 07:58 PM   #44 
     - Ah, you're a graduate of the College of It Stands To Reason  Euromutt   Sep-02-09 05:51 AM   #49 
        - access to firearms for a deranged citizen makes that citizen more lethal  samsingh   Sep-02-09 06:38 AM   #53 
        - access to firearms for a deranged attackers victims makes that attacker less lethal  Statistical   Sep-02-09 07:14 AM   #59 
           - huh?  samsingh   Sep-02-09 07:23 AM   #60 
              - A firearm in self defense can end a violent attack thus making the attacker LESS lethal.  Statistical   Sep-02-09 07:39 AM   #63 
                 - that is true.  samsingh   Sep-02-09 10:51 AM   #71 
                    - Would you be surpsied to learn that...  Statistical   Sep-02-09 11:01 AM   #76 
        - Well, I heard it From Some Bloke At The Pub...  PavePusher   Sep-02-09 10:13 AM   #70 
  - more guns = more gun deaths . . . pfffffftttt . . .  Will E Orwontee   Sep-01-09 04:57 PM   #37 
  - how did gun control fail miserably?  samsingh   Sep-02-09 06:44 AM   #55 
     - In the "bloody wild west" the homicide and violent crime rate was lower ...  Statistical   Sep-02-09 07:28 AM   #62 
  - Living in fear or not is a personal CHOICE  slackmaster   Sep-01-09 09:56 AM   #24 
  - You have nothing to fear from legal citizens.  PavePusher   Sep-01-09 10:42 AM   #29 
  - So I guess you think poor people in public housing should be subject to different laws  no limit   Sep-01-09 11:17 AM   #30 
  - canard #4  paulsby   Sep-01-09 12:31 PM   #32 
  - Yo, I'm allowed to possess and keep firearms.  AtheistCrusader   Sep-01-09 12:39 PM   #34 
  - the logic of those opposing gun control is all emotion and selection of a subset of facts  samsingh   Sep-02-09 06:43 AM   #54 
     - Actually it is proponents of gun control who rely on emotion.  Statistical   Sep-02-09 08:22 AM   #67 
        - gun supporters use statistics selectively and try to mask their agruments in  samsingh   Sep-02-09 10:59 AM   #74 
           - Do you sue Honda..  X_Digger   Sep-02-09 11:18 AM   #77 
           - the purpose of a car is to get people from point a to point b  samsingh   Sep-02-09 11:35 AM   #82 
              - Works as designed..  X_Digger   Sep-02-09 12:25 PM   #90 
           - If a gun fails they can be sued for civil damages.  Statistical   Sep-02-09 11:23 AM   #78 
              - i disagree with what you are saying  samsingh   Sep-02-09 11:33 AM   #81 
                 - Well it isn't emotional.  Statistical   Sep-02-09 12:02 PM   #88 
  - yes - do keep arming everyone - it is such a beautiful thing  samsingh   Sep-01-09 10:16 AM   #26 
  - Nobody is arming anyone.... it is giving people the choice.  Statistical   Sep-01-09 10:18 AM   #27 
  - i think there are too many guns  samsingh   Sep-01-09 11:26 AM   #31 
  - How many is too many? (n/t)  spin   Sep-01-09 05:14 PM   #38 
     - what is out there today is too many  samsingh   Sep-01-09 07:36 PM   #42 
        - Well you heard wrong. That would be around 1.5 billion guns in the US. Not even close. n/t  Statistical   Sep-01-09 08:32 PM   #46 
        - i think the number is actually several guns per household, not person  samsingh   Sep-02-09 06:45 AM   #56 
        - Some stats for you...  spin   Sep-01-09 10:15 PM   #47 
        - that sounds like the equivalent of several guns per household  samsingh   Sep-02-09 06:30 AM   #51 
           - Of course...  spin   Sep-02-09 08:04 AM   #65 
           - how can we compare golf clubs to guns?  samsingh   Sep-02-09 11:01 AM   #75 
              - Both are used for sporting purposes and both can be weapons...  spin   Sep-02-09 11:41 AM   #85 
           - I own 52  michreject   Sep-02-09 09:29 AM   #69 
        - Try 9 guns for every 10 inhabitants  Euromutt   Sep-02-09 06:15 AM   #50 
           - i don't understand the desire for guns as collector items or anything else  samsingh   Sep-02-09 06:35 AM   #52 
              - Or maybe because it IS in the Constitution.  Statistical   Sep-02-09 07:13 AM   #58 
              - the Constitution says nothing about the types of 'arms', conditions,  samsingh   Sep-02-09 07:26 AM   #61 
                 - Well technically you can...  Statistical   Sep-02-09 07:45 AM   #64 
                    - you make good points - the law should be the same for everyone  samsingh   Sep-02-09 10:53 AM   #72 
              - It's difficult to understand why grown men would chase golf balls...  spin   Sep-02-09 08:20 AM   #66 
                 - "Weapons often fascinate collectors." you got that right  Statistical   Sep-02-09 08:27 AM   #68 
                 - why do the guns have to be operational?  samsingh   Sep-02-09 10:54 AM   #73 
                    - Why should cars be operational? ...  spin   Sep-02-09 11:25 AM   #79 
                       - guns and cars are different  samsingh   Sep-02-09 11:38 AM   #83 
                          - Yes, I have damaged a lot of paper targets in my life...  spin   Sep-02-09 11:47 AM   #86 
                             - i'm not bothered by those things. it's when people get caught on the other side that  samsingh   Sep-02-09 12:34 PM   #91 
                                - When you consider the number of gun owners...  spin   Sep-02-09 07:13 PM   #92 
  - i want the choice of not feeling that any moron can get or steal a gun easier  samsingh   Sep-02-09 06:46 AM   #57 
     - That's not unreasonable...  spin   Sep-02-09 11:27 AM   #80 
        - being reasonable on background checks and who can own a gun  samsingh   Sep-02-09 11:41 AM   #84 
           - Not bad...  spin   Sep-02-09 12:01 PM   #87 
           - All those things exist except for storage.  Statistical   Sep-02-09 12:08 PM   #89 
  - HEY WHERE'S MY FREE GUN  AtheistCrusader   Sep-01-09 01:29 PM   #35 
  - free guns for everyone  samsingh   Sep-01-09 07:35 PM   #41 
  - I'll arm myself if you supply the ammo nt  Treo   Sep-02-09 12:56 AM   #48 
  - Bravo...  Xela   Sep-01-09 10:22 AM   #28 
  - K&R (n/t)  spin   Sep-01-09 05:15 PM   #39 
 

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