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PavePusher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-01-09 10:42 AM
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29. You have nothing to fear from legal citizens.
Unless you plan to attack them.

Do you think law-abiding people living in public housing loose the Constitutional right to effective tools of self-defense? If so, are you planning to volunteer to help defend them?
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  -Gun Rights, took another good positive step forward virginia mountainman  Aug-31-09 08:08 PM   #0 
  - Wasn't she just whining about gun control going nowhere?  vincna   Aug-31-09 08:24 PM   #1 
  - If you mean by civil rights victory that we must all live in fear of each other  Old and In the Way   Aug-31-09 08:27 PM   #2 
  - I foresee a spate of drug dealer deaths..  X_Digger   Aug-31-09 08:36 PM   #3 
  - Who proposed arming everyone in public housing?  Fire_Medic_Dave   Aug-31-09 08:36 PM   #4 
  - Drug gangs often take over public housing units to base their operations out of  davepc   Aug-31-09 08:40 PM   #5 
  - Well, we could legalize drugs and take away the key profit motive that  Old and In the Way   Sep-01-09 12:56 AM   #18 
     - I doubt you'll find many supporters of the War on Drugs here.  davepc   Sep-01-09 02:36 AM   #19 
  - Criminals Always Have Guns  TiredOldMan   Aug-31-09 09:04 PM   #6 
  - For criminals to have guns, someone has to manufacture, import, distribute and sell them.  sharesunited   Aug-31-09 09:52 PM   #7 
     - It's not difficult.  TiredOldMan   Aug-31-09 09:59 PM   #8 
     - Dig it ...homemade open bolt subguns  Katya Mullethov   Sep-01-09 06:08 PM   #40 
     - There are 100 million or so street guns. What is your plan to get rid of them  Statistical   Aug-31-09 10:01 PM   #9 
     - All guns start out as "lawful." Stop making / importing new guns and ammo. Cap the well.  sharesunited   Aug-31-09 10:11 PM   #11 
        - Drugs are scarce and expensive? LOL  Statistical   Aug-31-09 10:14 PM   #12 
        - Attrition reduces their prevalence over time (however long it takes)  sharesunited   Aug-31-09 10:27 PM   #13 
           - "However long it takes"  Statistical   Aug-31-09 10:51 PM   #14 
           - Increasing value over time would have another consequence that you refuse to acknowledge  slackmaster   Sep-01-09 09:58 AM   #25 
        - "All guns start out as 'lawful'"? Depends on the local gun laws, doesn't it?  Euromutt   Sep-01-09 04:56 AM   #21 
        - "scarce and expensive"  paulsby   Sep-01-09 12:33 PM   #33 
        - Guns and Drugs  Treo   Sep-01-09 02:06 PM   #36 
     - Gotta ask...  tortoise1956   Sep-01-09 08:28 PM   #45 
  - So you plan is to arm only the criminals? nt  Tim01   Aug-31-09 10:07 PM   #10 
  - He refuses to see the conseqences of his ideas.  proteus_lives   Sep-01-09 12:26 AM   #15 
  - Actually. The "Great Social Experiment"  virginia mountainman   Sep-01-09 12:29 AM   #16 
  - Great!  Old and In the Way   Sep-01-09 12:49 AM   #17 
  - No one is saying "Arm everyone"  virginia mountainman   Sep-01-09 02:40 AM   #20 
  - Riiight  pipoman   Sep-01-09 05:33 AM   #22 
  - As guns have gone up, crime has gone down..  X_Digger   Sep-01-09 08:40 AM   #23 
  - no way - #of guns going up means increasing deaths.  samsingh   Sep-01-09 07:37 PM   #43 
     - So some think..  X_Digger   Sep-01-09 07:58 PM   #44 
     - Ah, you're a graduate of the College of It Stands To Reason  Euromutt   Sep-02-09 05:51 AM   #49 
        - access to firearms for a deranged citizen makes that citizen more lethal  samsingh   Sep-02-09 06:38 AM   #53 
        - access to firearms for a deranged attackers victims makes that attacker less lethal  Statistical   Sep-02-09 07:14 AM   #59 
           - huh?  samsingh   Sep-02-09 07:23 AM   #60 
              - A firearm in self defense can end a violent attack thus making the attacker LESS lethal.  Statistical   Sep-02-09 07:39 AM   #63 
                 - that is true.  samsingh   Sep-02-09 10:51 AM   #71 
                    - Would you be surpsied to learn that...  Statistical   Sep-02-09 11:01 AM   #76 
        - Well, I heard it From Some Bloke At The Pub...  PavePusher   Sep-02-09 10:13 AM   #70 
  - more guns = more gun deaths . . . pfffffftttt . . .  Will E Orwontee   Sep-01-09 04:57 PM   #37 
  - how did gun control fail miserably?  samsingh   Sep-02-09 06:44 AM   #55 
     - In the "bloody wild west" the homicide and violent crime rate was lower ...  Statistical   Sep-02-09 07:28 AM   #62 
  - Living in fear or not is a personal CHOICE  slackmaster   Sep-01-09 09:56 AM   #24 
  - You have nothing to fear from legal citizens.  PavePusher   Sep-01-09 10:42 AM   #29 
  - So I guess you think poor people in public housing should be subject to different laws  no limit   Sep-01-09 11:17 AM   #30 
  - canard #4  paulsby   Sep-01-09 12:31 PM   #32 
  - Yo, I'm allowed to possess and keep firearms.  AtheistCrusader   Sep-01-09 12:39 PM   #34 
  - the logic of those opposing gun control is all emotion and selection of a subset of facts  samsingh   Sep-02-09 06:43 AM   #54 
     - Actually it is proponents of gun control who rely on emotion.  Statistical   Sep-02-09 08:22 AM   #67 
        - gun supporters use statistics selectively and try to mask their agruments in  samsingh   Sep-02-09 10:59 AM   #74 
           - Do you sue Honda..  X_Digger   Sep-02-09 11:18 AM   #77 
           - the purpose of a car is to get people from point a to point b  samsingh   Sep-02-09 11:35 AM   #82 
              - Works as designed..  X_Digger   Sep-02-09 12:25 PM   #90 
           - If a gun fails they can be sued for civil damages.  Statistical   Sep-02-09 11:23 AM   #78 
              - i disagree with what you are saying  samsingh   Sep-02-09 11:33 AM   #81 
                 - Well it isn't emotional.  Statistical   Sep-02-09 12:02 PM   #88 
  - yes - do keep arming everyone - it is such a beautiful thing  samsingh   Sep-01-09 10:16 AM   #26 
  - Nobody is arming anyone.... it is giving people the choice.  Statistical   Sep-01-09 10:18 AM   #27 
  - i think there are too many guns  samsingh   Sep-01-09 11:26 AM   #31 
  - How many is too many? (n/t)  spin   Sep-01-09 05:14 PM   #38 
     - what is out there today is too many  samsingh   Sep-01-09 07:36 PM   #42 
        - Well you heard wrong. That would be around 1.5 billion guns in the US. Not even close. n/t  Statistical   Sep-01-09 08:32 PM   #46 
        - i think the number is actually several guns per household, not person  samsingh   Sep-02-09 06:45 AM   #56 
        - Some stats for you...  spin   Sep-01-09 10:15 PM   #47 
        - that sounds like the equivalent of several guns per household  samsingh   Sep-02-09 06:30 AM   #51 
           - Of course...  spin   Sep-02-09 08:04 AM   #65 
           - how can we compare golf clubs to guns?  samsingh   Sep-02-09 11:01 AM   #75 
              - Both are used for sporting purposes and both can be weapons...  spin   Sep-02-09 11:41 AM   #85 
           - I own 52  michreject   Sep-02-09 09:29 AM   #69 
        - Try 9 guns for every 10 inhabitants  Euromutt   Sep-02-09 06:15 AM   #50 
           - i don't understand the desire for guns as collector items or anything else  samsingh   Sep-02-09 06:35 AM   #52 
              - Or maybe because it IS in the Constitution.  Statistical   Sep-02-09 07:13 AM   #58 
              - the Constitution says nothing about the types of 'arms', conditions,  samsingh   Sep-02-09 07:26 AM   #61 
                 - Well technically you can...  Statistical   Sep-02-09 07:45 AM   #64 
                    - you make good points - the law should be the same for everyone  samsingh   Sep-02-09 10:53 AM   #72 
              - It's difficult to understand why grown men would chase golf balls...  spin   Sep-02-09 08:20 AM   #66 
                 - "Weapons often fascinate collectors." you got that right  Statistical   Sep-02-09 08:27 AM   #68 
                 - why do the guns have to be operational?  samsingh   Sep-02-09 10:54 AM   #73 
                    - Why should cars be operational? ...  spin   Sep-02-09 11:25 AM   #79 
                       - guns and cars are different  samsingh   Sep-02-09 11:38 AM   #83 
                          - Yes, I have damaged a lot of paper targets in my life...  spin   Sep-02-09 11:47 AM   #86 
                             - i'm not bothered by those things. it's when people get caught on the other side that  samsingh   Sep-02-09 12:34 PM   #91 
                                - When you consider the number of gun owners...  spin   Sep-02-09 07:13 PM   #92 
  - i want the choice of not feeling that any moron can get or steal a gun easier  samsingh   Sep-02-09 06:46 AM   #57 
     - That's not unreasonable...  spin   Sep-02-09 11:27 AM   #80 
        - being reasonable on background checks and who can own a gun  samsingh   Sep-02-09 11:41 AM   #84 
           - Not bad...  spin   Sep-02-09 12:01 PM   #87 
           - All those things exist except for storage.  Statistical   Sep-02-09 12:08 PM   #89 
  - HEY WHERE'S MY FREE GUN  AtheistCrusader   Sep-01-09 01:29 PM   #35 
  - free guns for everyone  samsingh   Sep-01-09 07:35 PM   #41 
  - I'll arm myself if you supply the ammo nt  Treo   Sep-02-09 12:56 AM   #48 
  - Bravo...  Xela   Sep-01-09 10:22 AM   #28 
  - K&R (n/t)  spin   Sep-01-09 05:15 PM   #39 

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