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virginia mountainman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-12-09 12:17 PM
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6. LOL!!!
NO WAY.......WILL THAT EVER COME CLOSE TO HAPPNING...

To push for that, will insure massive losses at the polls, Like in the past.
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  -Guns...sigh... Taverner  Aug-12-09 12:09 PM   #0 
  - K&R for a voice of reason  slackmaster   Aug-12-09 12:13 PM   #1 
  - Monday, I would have supported you  WeDidIt   Aug-12-09 12:14 PM   #2 
  - I have a problem with CCW laws as they are  Taverner   Aug-12-09 12:16 PM   #4 
  - Fortunately the 2nd Amendment disagrees with you.  imdjh   Aug-12-09 12:25 PM   #9 
  - The 2nd ammendment is open to exceptions just like the 1st ammendment  Taverner   Aug-12-09 12:31 PM   #14 
  - Bullshit  mudplanet   Aug-12-09 01:08 PM   #46 
     - I have no problem with taht but I think the majority of DU would.  Statistical   Aug-12-09 01:15 PM   #48 
     - shall not be infringed  imdjh   Aug-12-09 04:02 PM   #54 
     - well regulated  WeDidIt   Aug-12-09 04:11 PM   #57 
        - Chatter and flowers.  imdjh   Aug-12-09 04:13 PM   #58 
        - Only when well regulated  WeDidIt   Aug-12-09 04:14 PM   #59 
           - Wrong. it's not conditional, that's what "shall not be infringed" means. Try Activia.  imdjh   Aug-12-09 04:14 PM   #61 
              - A well regulated milita  WeDidIt   Aug-12-09 04:15 PM   #64 
                 - Unlike you, I have done my homework. The last part is not conditional on the first.  imdjh   Aug-12-09 04:20 PM   #66 
                 - You drop the first part.  WeDidIt   Aug-12-09 04:21 PM   #67 
                    - We ARE the "well-regulated militia"  derby378   Aug-12-09 04:31 PM   #75 
                       - Not WITHOUT regulation n/t  WeDidIt   Aug-12-09 04:32 PM   #80 
                          - Two acts have bearing..  X_Digger   Aug-12-09 04:41 PM   #84 
                          - If the government has no power to regulate the ownership of arms  WeDidIt   Aug-12-09 04:44 PM   #85 
                             - See reply below to same Q. n/t  X_Digger   Aug-12-09 04:46 PM   #88 
                             - In other words, YES, the govenrment CAN regulate the RTKBA. n/t  WeDidIt   Aug-12-09 04:48 PM   #89 
                             - You CAN buy  oneshooter   Aug-12-09 08:02 PM   #102 
                          - Regulated in 1780 meant "well trained and equipped."  hack89   Aug-12-09 09:09 PM   #105 
                 - Here's another example of that sentence construction..  X_Digger   Aug-12-09 04:25 PM   #70 
                    - You are not convincing me  WeDidIt   Aug-12-09 04:26 PM   #72 
                       - Perhaps, but that wasn't my point..  X_Digger   Aug-12-09 04:36 PM   #82 
                          - Still not convining me  WeDidIt   Aug-12-09 04:38 PM   #83 
                             - Do you know why you can't go pick up a machinegun?  X_Digger   Aug-12-09 04:45 PM   #86 
                                - Ergo, the government CAN regualte gun ownership  WeDidIt   Aug-12-09 04:45 PM   #87 
                                   - Who said they couldn't??  X_Digger   Aug-12-09 04:52 PM   #90 
        - Well regulated means well trained with like weapons. PLEASE  Hoopla Phil   Aug-13-09 02:09 AM   #116 
     - Funny that  pipoman   Aug-12-09 09:59 PM   #112 
  - "A man in the desert with a fully auto machine gun does no harm"  lapfog_1   Aug-12-09 12:43 PM   #22 
  - I guess we need to specify the desert :)  Taverner   Aug-12-09 12:44 PM   #25 
  - There's the real point: people have no business living there.  imdjh   Aug-12-09 12:47 PM   #31 
     - Generally speaking, it's not the people that live here that are the problem  lapfog_1   Aug-12-09 12:51 PM   #35 
  - National Security Events have their own rules  One_Life_To_Give   Aug-12-09 01:07 PM   #45 
  - That sounds good and everything  rrneck   Aug-12-09 07:21 PM   #100 
  - LOL!!!  virginia mountainman   Aug-12-09 12:17 PM   #6 
     - One person at a time altering their position  WeDidIt   Aug-12-09 01:05 PM   #43 
        - Yes I know..  virginia mountainman   Aug-12-09 03:30 PM   #49 
           - well congratulations  WeDidIt   Aug-12-09 03:33 PM   #50 
           - shall not be infringed  imdjh   Aug-12-09 04:03 PM   #55 
              - "well regulated"  WeDidIt   Aug-12-09 04:09 PM   #56 
                 - If you are having problems with that, try exlax.  imdjh   Aug-12-09 04:14 PM   #60 
                 - The constitution demands the RTKBA be well regulated.  WeDidIt   Aug-12-09 04:15 PM   #62 
                    - No it doesn't.  imdjh   Aug-12-09 04:15 PM   #63 
                    - You don't get to pick and choose  WeDidIt   Aug-12-09 04:17 PM   #65 
                       - You don't get to pick and choose either,  virginia mountainman   Aug-12-09 04:25 PM   #71 
                       - So long as its wel regualted, the right is not infringed. n/t  WeDidIt   Aug-12-09 04:31 PM   #77 
                          - That word does not mean what you think it means.  ManiacJoe   Aug-12-09 07:08 PM   #97 
                          - ok here it is in its entirity  E-Mag   Aug-12-09 07:18 PM   #99 
                             - Being willing to do your homework for you...  ManiacJoe   Aug-12-09 09:02 PM   #104 
                             - oops it should have been up a post  E-Mag   Aug-12-09 09:10 PM   #106 
                             - Sure.  AtheistCrusader   Aug-12-09 09:42 PM   #109 
                          - So long as well regulated means everyone gets a U.S. issued M-4.  Hoopla Phil   Aug-13-09 02:27 AM   #120 
                       - Correct, but don't change definitions to suit your beliefs either.  Hoopla Phil   Aug-13-09 02:26 AM   #119 
                    - Think about it..  X_Digger   Aug-12-09 04:21 PM   #68 
                    - I completely disagree  WeDidIt   Aug-12-09 04:23 PM   #69 
                       - LOL so your saying, that out of the WHOLE BILL OF RIGHTS..  virginia mountainman   Aug-12-09 04:26 PM   #73 
                       - I'm saying the second  WeDidIt   Aug-12-09 04:31 PM   #74 
                       - In general, the constitution 'grants' powers to the government..  X_Digger   Aug-12-09 04:31 PM   #76 
                       - The second EXPLICITLY granted the power to regulate gun ownership. n/t  WeDidIt   Aug-12-09 04:32 PM   #78 
                          - See above.. tired of typing the same thing in three places :) n/t  X_Digger   Aug-12-09 04:58 PM   #92 
                          - Actually, WeDidIt, the first clause of the second speaks to the quality of the militia  tortoise1956   Aug-12-09 11:10 PM   #114 
                       - No, it prohibits the Federal Government from infringing on our RKBA.  AtheistCrusader   Aug-12-09 09:44 PM   #110 
                    - Actually it doesn't.  AtheistCrusader   Aug-12-09 09:41 PM   #108 
                    - Yes, by being well trained with like and kind weapons. Or are you going  Hoopla Phil   Aug-13-09 02:25 AM   #118 
                 - PLEASE use the correct definition of "well regulated" in the correct context.  Hoopla Phil   Aug-13-09 02:24 AM   #117 
           - Keep up the good fight! A federal attack on gun rights would be suicide in 2010. nt  kelly1mm   Aug-12-09 09:53 PM   #111 
  - Yes SOME REASON..  virginia mountainman   Aug-12-09 12:16 PM   #3 
  - I agree - the CCW permit SHOULD not apply to bars, public areas and public events  Taverner   Aug-12-09 12:17 PM   #5 
  - The CCW is FOR public carry.  imdjh   Aug-12-09 12:28 PM   #11 
  - CCW not apply to "public areas"? CCW ONLY apply to public areas  Statistical   Aug-12-09 12:49 PM   #32 
     - actually, CCW also applies toprivate property  paulsby   Aug-13-09 07:30 AM   #121 
  - The presence of the president should suspend a civil right?  imdjh   Aug-12-09 12:26 PM   #10 
  - In certain situations, it is.  virginia mountainman   Aug-12-09 12:29 PM   #12 
  - Yes, just like yelling fire in a crowded theater does  Taverner   Aug-12-09 12:29 PM   #13 
  - Carrying a gun and threatening the president are not the same thing.  imdjh   Aug-12-09 12:34 PM   #15 
     - Yes it is - to carry a gun is to intimidate  Taverner   Aug-12-09 12:35 PM   #16 
        - To brandish a gun is to intimidate. And there is a law against that, even in NH and FL.  imdjh   Aug-12-09 12:39 PM   # 
        - The guy who can beat the shit out of me, if acting aggressive, is intimidating  Taverner   Aug-12-09 12:41 PM   #21 
           - My right is not contingent on your feelings.  imdjh   Aug-12-09 12:44 PM   #26 
              - But like I said, its not about rights  Taverner   Aug-12-09 12:45 PM   #29 
                 - it's only about rights  imdjh   Aug-12-09 12:51 PM   #34 
                 - Then you have lost me...  Taverner   Aug-12-09 12:55 PM   #36 
                    - The 4th and 5th causes lives to be lost.  Statistical   Aug-12-09 12:59 PM   #42 
                    - here's where you lose me.  Morning Dew   Aug-12-09 01:07 PM   #44 
                    - What was the justification for the Patriot Act?  hack89   Aug-12-09 09:15 PM   #107 
                 - It's not about proximity...  PavePusher   Aug-12-09 07:04 PM   #96 
        - Remember the Concealed part of CCW.  proteus_lives   Aug-12-09 12:46 PM   #30 
        - Intimidation is not based on your reaction.  Statistical   Aug-12-09 12:51 PM   #33 
  - Yes. n/t  WeDidIt   Aug-12-09 12:56 PM   #38 
  - There is such a zone whenever secret service asks for one  Recursion   Aug-12-09 12:36 PM   #18 
     - That man's gun was not a threat to the President.  imdjh   Aug-12-09 12:43 PM   #24 
        - Secret Service can and has asked people to leave private property from time to time  Recursion   Aug-12-09 12:44 PM   #27 
        - Yes, they can and do.  PavePusher   Aug-12-09 07:00 PM   #95 
        - We don't know whether it was an actual or even intended threat to the president...  Orsino   Aug-12-09 12:58 PM   #41 
  - Again, we are in total agreement.  Greyhound   Aug-12-09 12:21 PM   #7 
  - K&R  jody   Aug-12-09 12:24 PM   #8 
  - That's as close to my opinion as anything I've read recently  tularetom   Aug-12-09 12:35 PM   #17 
  - I agree with one of your examples.  proteus_lives   Aug-12-09 12:38 PM   #19 
  - Agree kinda...  Taverner   Aug-12-09 12:43 PM   #23 
  - What if you use your car and make a mistake? Could you live with yourself.  Statistical   Aug-12-09 12:55 PM   #37 
  - No I couldn't, and that is why my wife drives most of the time  Taverner   Aug-12-09 12:58 PM   #40 
     - I agree guns & crime don't have causation.  Statistical   Aug-12-09 01:14 PM   #47 
     - You're pretty misinformed here.  Call Me Wesley   Aug-12-09 03:57 PM   #53 
  - Then it's something I would have to live with.  proteus_lives   Aug-12-09 03:44 PM   #51 
  - Why?  zipplewrath   Aug-12-09 12:45 PM   #28 
     - I think the logic is more on the trip there or back.  Statistical   Aug-12-09 12:57 PM   #39 
     - I'm not looking for an opportunity to use it.  proteus_lives   Aug-12-09 03:47 PM   #52 
     - That logic doesn't seem to flow.  PavePusher   Aug-12-09 07:13 PM   #98 
  - K&R  PVnRT   Aug-12-09 12:39 PM   #20 
  - K&R, You sir just nailed it!  Norwood   Aug-12-09 04:32 PM   #79 
  - You think these folks would support reasonable time, place and manner restrictions?  depakid   Aug-12-09 04:34 PM   #81 
  - Wrong word.  proteus_lives   Aug-12-09 10:03 PM   #113 
  - People who bring guns to Presdential events ar eTERRORISTS  alarimer   Aug-12-09 04:56 PM   #91 
  - That would be a radical definition of terrorist.  ManiacJoe   Aug-12-09 06:54 PM   #93 
  - Bush supporter, eh?  PavePusher   Aug-12-09 06:56 PM   #94 
  - I half agree with you.  Tim01   Aug-12-09 07:25 PM   #101 
     - Which is also true of concealed carry...  spin   Aug-12-09 08:11 PM   #103 
        - Many of the tourists have their own..  virginia mountainman   Aug-12-09 11:33 PM   #115 
           - Also true.  spin   Aug-13-09 09:53 AM   #122 
 

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