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iverglas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-27-09 07:35 PM
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16. and your conclusion / proposal for ameliorating this problem would be?

Oh, that's right.

Nothing.

These things happen. Too bad, so sad.
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  -Gunfree Chicago: Two men charged for shooting UPS driver Indy Lurker  Jul-27-09 06:40 PM   #0 
  - No doubt stolen or purchased from a "responsible gun owner" who will never be punished.  baldguy   Jul-27-09 06:54 PM   #1 
  - THAT'S The solution!  eqfan592   Jul-27-09 06:56 PM   #2 
  - I do believe that baldguys point is,  geckosfeet   Jul-27-09 06:59 PM   #5 
  - If they neglect to secure their weapons properly, thats exactly what should be done.  baldguy   Jul-27-09 07:01 PM   #6 
  - Because a criminal that is able to break into a home....  eqfan592   Jul-27-09 07:06 PM   #7 
     - And our increasingly hypothetical "responsible gun owner" wouldn't use such a gun safe.  baldguy   Jul-27-09 07:23 PM   #11 
        - Such a safe is all our "responsible gun owner" can afford.  eqfan592   Jul-27-09 07:29 PM   #13 
        - If you can't afford to secure your weapon properly, you can't afford the weapon.  baldguy   Jul-27-09 07:37 PM   #17 
           - Define "secure properly" please. (nt)  eqfan592   Jul-27-09 07:38 PM   #18 
           - You've already done that yourself.  baldguy   Jul-27-09 07:43 PM   #19 
              - Oh, I stated no such thing!  eqfan592   Jul-27-09 07:52 PM   #21 
              - Well, if you weren't being sarcastic in your previous post  baldguy   Jul-27-09 08:11 PM   #22 
                 - Ummm, did you read the post you replied to?  eqfan592   Jul-27-09 08:26 PM   #23 
                    - Then I'll repeat: If you can't afford to secure your weapon properly, you can't afford the weapon.  baldguy   Jul-27-09 08:38 PM   #24 
                       - A resolute 10-year old...  eqfan592   Jul-27-09 08:56 PM   #25 
                       - Either your safe is adequate, or it's not. It can't be both.  baldguy   Jul-27-09 09:28 PM   #27 
                          - I have done NO such thing, sir.  eqfan592   Jul-27-09 09:40 PM   #28 
                          - Really? Your own statements belie your arguments.  baldguy   Jul-27-09 09:52 PM   #29 
                             - Well, given that I'm willing to assume (safely, I might add)...  eqfan592   Jul-27-09 10:06 PM   #30 
                          - No baldguy, YOU are the one who is doing that  slackmaster   Jul-28-09 10:15 AM   #38 
                          - Now, you're getting it!  baldguy   Jul-28-09 11:55 AM   #45 
                             - Actually, you're wrong.  eqfan592   Jul-28-09 12:08 PM   #46 
                             - How do you feel about stolen cars?  slackmaster   Jul-28-09 03:08 PM   #61 
                          - It's adequate enough for California.  gorfle   Jul-28-09 10:42 AM   #40 
                       - No 10 year old is as competent in destroying things as a determined criminal  Taitertots   Jul-28-09 01:37 PM   #56 
              - Could you define what constitutes a "secure lock box"?  S_B_Jackson   Aug-02-09 10:46 PM   #70 
           - Watch this video.  gorfle   Jul-27-09 10:46 PM   #31 
           - One of those gun vaults...  eqfan592   Jul-28-09 12:42 AM   #33 
           - Meets California DOJ requirements.  gorfle   Jul-28-09 07:58 AM   #36 
              - No problem, and thank you...  eqfan592   Jul-28-09 10:08 AM   #37 
              - Be sure to anchor it to the floor. Many thefts involve taking the locked  Hoopla Phil   Jul-28-09 11:18 AM   #43 
           - Only 15 minutes to break into it? That doesn't sound very secure  yodoobo   Jul-28-09 11:11 AM   #41 
           - The TL-15 rating is 15 minutes for a properly equipped safe cracker that  Hoopla Phil   Jul-28-09 11:21 AM   #44 
              - Yeah, that's true.  eqfan592   Jul-28-09 12:52 PM   #51 
                 - You are correct. I think the  Hoopla Phil   Jul-28-09 01:34 PM   #55 
           - WOW! Thanks for those videos. Did you notice in the  Hoopla Phil   Jul-28-09 11:14 AM   #42 
           - Rights should be limited to the upper class then?  JonQ   Aug-02-09 11:56 AM   #67 
        - If they didn't have a gun, no need for a safe, no need to break in  Xenotime   Aug-01-09 10:52 AM   #66 
           - And everyone who doesn't own guns...  PavePusher   Aug-02-09 02:08 PM   #69 
  - Sounds good to me. I think I should suggest that to our DA.  Xenotime   Aug-01-09 10:51 AM   #65 
  - No doubt.  geckosfeet   Jul-27-09 06:57 PM   #4 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jul-27-09 06:56 PM   #3 
  - I don't think...  eqfan592   Jul-27-09 07:11 PM   #8 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jul-27-09 07:13 PM   #10 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jul-27-09 07:26 PM   #12 
     - Been a troll since the beginning no doubt.  Fire_Medic_Dave   Jul-27-09 07:33 PM   #15 
     - Do you kiss your momma with that mouth?!  virginia mountainman   Jul-27-09 07:46 PM   #20 
     - If you've been here since the beginning, why have you never read the rules?  AtheistCrusader   Jul-28-09 12:25 PM   #47 
        - you are speaking to the person who was called a troll???  iverglas   Jul-28-09 01:43 PM   #58 
           - See post 3.  AtheistCrusader   Jul-28-09 01:46 PM   #60 
              - "There's an alert button. Use it."  iverglas   Jul-28-09 03:47 PM   #62 
                 - The one I responded to  AtheistCrusader   Jul-28-09 04:09 PM   #63 
  - So if I look will I see you protesting Shares posts or will I find you to be a hypocrite?  Fire_Medic_Dave   Jul-27-09 07:33 PM   #14 
  - Too bad Daley's Body Gaurds where not close by... NT  virginia mountainman   Jul-27-09 07:13 PM   #9 
  - and your conclusion / proposal for ameliorating this problem would be?  iverglas   Jul-27-09 07:35 PM   #16 
  - Depends on what problem you're talking about...  tortoise1956   Jul-27-09 09:16 PM   #26 
  - another expert  iverglas   Jul-28-09 10:31 AM   #39 
     - So what's the alternative? Lock everybody up before they can do anything?  TheWraith   Jul-28-09 12:26 PM   #48 
        - Yes, that's it! Lock everybody up! That's the ONLY alternative!!  iverglas   Jul-28-09 01:24 PM   #52 
        - get a fucking grip / give it up  iverglas   Jul-28-09 01:27 PM   #53 
        - Ban kitchen knives?  FunkyLeprechaun   Jul-29-09 01:12 AM   #64 
           - whaddayou know, eh?  iverglas   Aug-02-09 11:27 PM   #71 
  - The solution  Indy Lurker   Jul-28-09 05:34 AM   #34 
  - Rethinking our drug policy  JonQ   Aug-02-09 11:59 AM   #68 
  - Find out where they obtained the gun.  AtheistCrusader   Jul-28-09 12:27 PM   #49 
     - and of course  iverglas   Jul-28-09 01:29 PM   #54 
        - I'd sign up for registration, and register every last firearm I own today IF  AtheistCrusader   Jul-28-09 01:44 PM   #59 
  - Better than some less restrictive cities.  russ1943   Jul-27-09 11:45 PM   #32 
     - Not all of Chicago  Indy Lurker   Jul-28-09 05:41 AM   #35 
     - That nonsense reminds me of the Bush administration justifying Iraq.  TheWraith   Jul-28-09 12:30 PM   #50 
        - and yours reminds me of what five-year-olds say  iverglas   Jul-28-09 01:42 PM   #57 
 

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