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juno jones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-13-09 12:10 AM
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12. My guess is stolen.
Edited on Sat Jun-13-09 12:16 AM by juno jones
My father had an extensive gun collection when he died.

My mother had a collector friend of his (who was also a legit dealer) come in and buy his reloading stuff and most of the collectables.

Before she could have another person by to get the rest, one of my sister's skinhead friends broke in and stole them. He was reasonably familiar with the house and either had found the gun case key, or my sister had shown him where it was. Everything was taken including a couple of old guns that the collector had passed over.

We recovered most of the jewelry and other extras this kid took as well, but the guns diappeared. If Dad hadn't been dead already, it would have killed him. He'd always been as responsible as possible with them.

It's one reason that despite growing up with guns and being comfortable with dealing with one, I am a little ambivalent about them.

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  -Rifle used in museum shooting too old to trace, official says RamboLiberal  Jun-12-09 10:54 PM   #0 
  - I had a JC higgins that looked a lot like that.  Fovea   Jun-12-09 11:11 PM   #1 
  - my grandfather had one  MichaelHarris   Jun-12-09 11:26 PM   #2 
  - Gun show, gun dealer, maybe look online  krispos42   Jun-12-09 11:34 PM   #4 
  - collectable guns  MichaelHarris   Jun-12-09 11:36 PM   #5 
  - A dealer at a gun show would not have sold him one...  krispos42   Jun-12-09 11:53 PM   #10 
  - we probably  MichaelHarris   Jun-13-09 12:04 AM   #11 
     - My issue is...  krispos42   Jun-13-09 12:32 AM   #16 
     - It is  MichaelHarris   Jun-13-09 12:37 AM   #17 
        - It's a minor issue  krispos42   Jun-13-09 12:57 AM   #20 
        - will  MichaelHarris   Jun-13-09 01:01 AM   #21 
        - It's against the law to sell a gun to a known criminal...  krispos42   Jun-13-09 01:12 AM   #25 
        - I support a public option to verify via NICS but not like that.  Statistical   Jun-13-09 01:08 AM   #24 
        - The privacy issue was mentioned before  krispos42   Jun-13-09 01:22 AM   #26 
        - Well I believe registration IS intrusive,  Statistical   Jun-13-09 11:09 AM   #37 
        - No, it would NOT be a scarlet letter.  gorfle   Jun-13-09 10:10 AM   #30 
           - Better. Opt in would have to be a requirement.  Statistical   Jun-13-09 10:48 AM   #33 
           - Defacto registration.  gorfle   Jun-13-09 04:20 PM   #48 
           - Good idea, but don't make it able to opt out on the license  krispos42   Jun-13-09 12:56 PM   #40 
              - Nope, that's defacto registration.  gorfle   Jun-15-09 06:49 AM   #61 
                 - Of course groups could engage in cvil disobedience.  Statistical   Jun-15-09 08:07 AM   #71 
                    - on FOID.  gorfle   Jun-15-09 09:44 AM   #82 
                       - Good points.  Statistical   Jun-15-09 10:07 AM   #85 
                          - Why?  gorfle   Jun-15-09 10:43 AM   #86 
                             - Just my opinion but...  Statistical   Jun-15-09 11:34 AM   #88 
                                - The problem with opt-in.  gorfle   Jun-15-09 12:00 PM   #89 
        - Because I have a CCW  michreject   Jun-13-09 12:31 PM   #39 
           - Not true.  Statistical   Jun-14-09 09:51 PM   #57 
           - Actually, no.. in _some_ states  X_Digger   Jun-14-09 10:50 PM   #58 
           - I stand corrected.  Statistical   Jun-14-09 11:01 PM   #59 
              - TX is the same way.. no NICS check for CHL holders.  X_Digger   Jun-14-09 11:11 PM   #60 
                 - I am as pro-gun as the next guy but this seem like a potential source of concern.  Statistical   Jun-15-09 08:12 AM   #73 
                    - Don't know if VA is exempt..  X_Digger   Jun-15-09 08:42 AM   #76 
                    - No VA is not.  Statistical   Jun-15-09 09:00 AM   #77 
                       - Yup, laminated w/ signature & photo. n/t  X_Digger   Jun-15-09 09:13 AM   #80 
                          - Well I am still not sure it is a good idea BUT I believe in states rights.  Statistical   Jun-15-09 09:25 AM   #81 
                    - They probably expire.  gorfle   Jun-15-09 09:48 AM   #83 
                    - Yes, a VA CHP ...  virginia mountainman   Jun-15-09 02:22 PM   #94 
           - Not true  michreject   Jun-15-09 07:41 AM   #69 
              - I was corrected by others (see above)  Statistical   Jun-15-09 09:59 AM   #84 
           - Some states yes, some states no.  gorfle   Jun-15-09 06:51 AM   #62 
              - In Tennessee, they use a system called TICS  michreject   Jun-15-09 07:43 AM   #70 
        - I have proposed a solution several times now  gorfle   Jun-13-09 10:03 AM   #29 
           - Crickets...  gorfle   Jun-15-09 06:51 AM   #63 
     - Even in California that particular rifle could be sold from one unlicensed individual to another  slackmaster   Jun-13-09 10:54 AM   #35 
     - Concern trolling, typecasting, and forced teaming  friendly_iconoclast   Jun-13-09 03:48 PM   #47 
  - Let's cover this slowly  one-eyed fat man   Jun-14-09 09:21 AM   #51 
  - A dealer or Gunbroker auction would have necessitated a background check.  TheWraith   Jun-12-09 11:37 PM   #7 
  - Only if across state lines.  gorfle   Jun-15-09 06:52 AM   #64 
     - The transaction does not have to be face to face intra state  one-eyed fat man   Jun-15-09 08:30 AM   #74 
     - True, but unless you're very close to the seller that's difficult.  TheWraith   Jun-15-09 01:08 PM   #90 
        - Just use the mail.  gorfle   Jun-15-09 01:50 PM   #91 
  - People talk about  MichaelHarris   Jun-12-09 11:48 PM   #8 
  - One of the stories that I read that talked to someone who knew  RamboLiberal   Jun-13-09 12:23 AM   #14 
  - Likely it is a weapon he bought 30, 40, 50 years ago.  Statistical   Jun-13-09 12:44 AM   #18 
  - for me  MichaelHarris   Jun-13-09 01:02 AM   #22 
     - So a "sensible gun control" worked?  Statistical   Jun-13-09 01:05 AM   #23 
     - It did  MichaelHarris   Jun-13-09 04:17 AM   #27 
        - Where the system fails...............  one-eyed fat man   Jun-15-09 09:06 AM   #78 
           - i have been looking for those numbers - thanks  votingupstart   Jun-15-09 01:50 PM   #92 
     - Unlikely.  gorfle   Jun-13-09 10:13 AM   #32 
  - I strongly suspect  gorfle   Jun-13-09 10:12 AM   #31 
  - I doubt the latter. These clowns usually want to provoke a war, not prevent one. (n/t)  benEzra   Jun-13-09 01:27 PM   #43 
  - He was a racist SS wannabe, not a gun enthusiast. If he owned only hunting weapons  benEzra   Jun-13-09 01:25 PM   #42 
  - OMG! I just went to!!!1  Xenotime   Jun-13-09 01:04 PM   #41 
     - None. The gun is shipped to your local Federally licensed gun dealer,  benEzra   Jun-13-09 01:28 PM   #44 
     - OMG, there's a tempest in this TEAPOT!  X_Digger   Jun-13-09 04:33 PM   #49 
     - OMG. Reading is fun.  Statistical   Jun-14-09 09:39 AM   #53 
     - Unless...  gorfle   Jun-15-09 06:53 AM   #65 
     - Yeah, ain't it great?  gorfle   Jun-15-09 06:55 AM   #66 
  - Some of the same places you'd buy a modern gun.  TheWraith   Jun-12-09 11:37 PM   #6 
     - I found an old  MichaelHarris   Jun-12-09 11:49 PM   #9 
        - Sears, Roebuck & Company  one-eyed fat man   Jun-14-09 09:39 AM   #52 
  - I better go check and see if my dad's has been stolen. I grew up shooting the same rifle.  Fire_Medic_Dave   Jun-12-09 11:33 PM   #3 
  - My guess is stolen.  juno jones   Jun-13-09 12:10 AM   #12 
  - Just incredible  Merchant Marine   Jun-13-09 12:17 AM   #13 
  - I'm wonder if he was shooting a short  RamboLiberal   Jun-13-09 12:31 AM   #15 
  - With a tube mag?  Merchant Marine   Jun-13-09 12:57 AM   #19 
     - .22 CB shorts  one-eyed fat man   Jun-14-09 10:06 AM   #54 
     - Thanks I should've caught it was a tube magazine  RamboLiberal   Jun-14-09 09:43 PM   #56 
  - I would guess that more people have been murdered with .22LR than any other caliber  slackmaster   Jun-13-09 10:56 AM   #36 
  - I don't know why people...  Deadric Damodred   Jun-13-09 11:13 AM   #38 
     - Deadly up to a mile.  gorfle   Jun-15-09 07:00 AM   #67 
  - He probably had this rifle for 50 years, or got it from an uncle, or bought it from some  old mark   Jun-13-09 05:24 AM   #28 
  - That's about the same age and similar to the Remington that my dad used to teach me about firearms  slackmaster   Jun-13-09 10:52 AM   #34 
  - If it was made before 1968, it wouldn't have needed a serial # on it...  Endangered Specie   Jun-13-09 03:18 PM   #45 
     - Just think of how much deadlier that rifle would be if it DID have that shoulder thing that goes up!  slackmaster   Jun-13-09 03:24 PM   #46 
     - Ed or Rachel had her on this week  krispos42   Jun-13-09 08:12 PM   #50 
     - I suspect...  Deadric Damodred   Jun-14-09 09:35 PM   #55 
     - No serial number  gorfle   Jun-15-09 07:01 AM   #68 
        - Most guns of the period weren't serialized. (n/t)  benEzra   Jun-15-09 08:07 AM   #72 
        - Yours may have it  michreject   Jun-15-09 08:39 AM   #75 
        - I have a few firearms that don't have serial numbers  slackmaster   Jun-15-09 09:08 AM   #79 
        - My Winchester "ought-3" in .22 WAR (made in 1905) has a serial...  SteveM   Jun-15-09 11:13 AM   #87 
        - I know of a Ithaca 1911 .45...  virginia mountainman   Jun-15-09 02:13 PM   #93 

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