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Fire_Medic_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 10:06 PM
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25. Who is arguing it as a way of life?
There are posters here who think your Dad should have been arrested for letting you touch a firearm before the age of 18.

David
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  -Just a couple of questions for the gun control advocates. Fire_Medic_Dave  May-31-09 08:49 PM   #0 
  - It's easier to be smug in one's support of gun control when you live in a safe police protected  w4rma   May-31-09 08:53 PM   #1 
  - Of course it's rare to have a truly police protected neighborhood.  Fire_Medic_Dave   May-31-09 11:00 PM   #32 
  - Too easy. For most Americans, the US is a calm, peaceful place . . .  MrModerate   May-31-09 08:53 PM   #2 
  - Of course no one should be afraid of much of anything, statistically speaking of course.  Fire_Medic_Dave   May-31-09 08:58 PM   #4 
     - I did notice . . . and in the context of today's news, preferred to allude to gun violence. n/t  MrModerate   May-31-09 10:59 PM   #31 
        - Gun violence makes up a very small portion of violent crime.  Fire_Medic_Dave   May-31-09 11:03 PM   #33 
           - And what proportion of lethal violent crime would that be? n/t  MrModerate   May-31-09 11:04 PM   #34 
              - Who narrowed the subject to lethal violent crime?  Fire_Medic_Dave   May-31-09 11:07 PM   #35 
                 - I did? In response to your making the distinction . . .  MrModerate   May-31-09 11:25 PM   #36 
                    - So you want to change the OP, instead of starting your own?  Fire_Medic_Dave   May-31-09 11:31 PM   #37 
                       - Not change per se. Violent crime is inextricably wrapped up with gun violence . . .  MrModerate   May-31-09 11:53 PM   #40 
                          - Americans should be able to defend themselves against all violent crime not just gun violence.  Fire_Medic_Dave   May-31-09 11:57 PM   #42 
                             - Aha! A specific point. No need to be coy anymore.  MrModerate   Jun-01-09 12:11 AM   #44 
                                - I never said the Constitution said anything about self defense. Your reply is funny though.  Fire_Medic_Dave   Jun-01-09 12:16 AM   #45 
                                - As machines, professionally made and properly maintained firearms are "reliable"  MrModerate   Jun-01-09 12:52 AM   #46 
                                   - "Insanely unreliable"?  Euromutt   Jun-01-09 02:22 AM   #49 
                                   - Well to address the quote you've posted . . .  MrModerate   Jun-01-09 04:05 AM   #51 
                                      - What do your points have to do with people defending themselves from violent crime?  Fire_Medic_Dave   Jun-01-09 07:08 PM   #56 
                                      - The quote leaned heavily on statistics of people protecting their property . . .  MrModerate   Jun-01-09 07:29 PM   #58 
                                         - So you think they are insanely unreliable for stopping burglaries but good at stopping violent crime  Fire_Medic_Dave   Jun-02-09 01:20 AM   #63 
                                            - Naah. Using them to stop violent crime could easily *be* a violent crime . . .  MrModerate   Jun-02-09 01:25 AM   #64 
                                            - Legitimate use of firearms for self defense rarely results in criminal charges.  Fire_Medic_Dave   Jun-02-09 01:36 AM   #65 
                                            - So what DO you consider to be an effective means of self-defense?  Euromutt   Jun-03-09 06:46 AM   #71 
                                      - I think you're reading too much into that  Euromutt   Jun-02-09 04:36 AM   #67 
                                   - Then why are they used by police and military that put their lives on the line?  Hoopla Phil   Jun-01-09 08:28 PM   #62 
                                   - Un Reliable?  votingupstart   Jun-04-09 10:01 PM   #73 
                                - If firearms used for self defense were so "risky and unreliable" why then  Hoopla Phil   Jun-01-09 08:26 PM   #61 
  - Gun control does not presume no guns  Fresh_Start   May-31-09 08:55 PM   #3 
  - Who said it did? Of course gun rights doesn't mean completely unrestricted access to any weapon.  Fire_Medic_Dave   May-31-09 08:59 PM   #5 
  - your question itself suggested that gun control  Fresh_Start   May-31-09 09:02 PM   #6 
     - Perhaps you need to work on your reading comprehension.  Fire_Medic_Dave   May-31-09 09:08 PM   #8 
        - I repeat gun control is not the same as no guns  Fresh_Start   May-31-09 09:16 PM   #12 
           - I repeat gun rights are not the same as any weapon for anyone.  Fire_Medic_Dave   May-31-09 09:22 PM   #13 
              - here's your own words......  Fresh_Start   May-31-09 09:28 PM   #14 
                 - It wasn't about gun control either till you brought it up.  Fire_Medic_Dave   May-31-09 09:30 PM   #15 
                    - read your subject line  Fresh_Start   May-31-09 09:32 PM   #16 
                       - I posed a question to gun control advocates, that doesn't mean it was about gun control..  Fire_Medic_Dave   May-31-09 09:35 PM   #17 
                          - you challenged the concept of gun control on the basis  Fresh_Start   May-31-09 09:40 PM   #18 
                             - I challenged calling gun owners cowards.  Fire_Medic_Dave   May-31-09 09:42 PM   #19 
                                - and more than a few of them are in fact cowards  Fresh_Start   May-31-09 09:48 PM   #20 
                                   - So you would agree with those here that call all gun owners cowards?  Fire_Medic_Dave   May-31-09 09:54 PM   #21 
                                      - I already told you that we own guns  Fresh_Start   May-31-09 10:01 PM   #22 
                                         - I grew up with a gun rack in the dining room  Fresh_Start   May-31-09 10:02 PM   #23 
                                         - Who is arguing it as a way of life?  Fire_Medic_Dave   May-31-09 10:06 PM   #25 
                                            - there are many people who are single issue voters  Fresh_Start   May-31-09 10:27 PM   #26 
                                               - The NRA routinely supports pro gun Democrats.  Fire_Medic_Dave   May-31-09 10:34 PM   #27 
                                               - do they ever support gun control advocates  Fresh_Start   May-31-09 10:36 PM   #28 
                                               - Does NARAL ever support pro-life candidates?  Fire_Medic_Dave   May-31-09 10:38 PM   #29 
                                               - That would go against the organization's purpose  Euromutt   Jun-01-09 03:08 AM   #50 
                                         - I already told you that I don't know anyone who defines them self that way.  Fire_Medic_Dave   May-31-09 10:05 PM   #24 
  - Enforcing something like that would probably be a violation of the Fourth Amendment  Callisto32   May-31-09 11:33 PM   #38 
  - everything I'm proposing is the same for driving today  Fresh_Start   Jun-01-09 09:18 AM   #53 
     - Name the amendment...  inkool   Jun-01-09 09:26 AM   #54 
     - Wasn't that tried with voting?  Hoopla Phil   Jun-01-09 08:23 PM   #60 
        - Yup, and it is just a stupid now as it was then. n/t  inkool   Jun-02-09 06:29 AM   #69 
     - NOT true. You do not have to license a car, or buy insurance for it, or have  Hoopla Phil   Jun-01-09 08:23 PM   #59 
  - i am interested in the definition of competent  votingupstart   Jun-04-09 10:10 PM   #74 
  - Your questions are incoherent.............  Tangerine LaBamba   May-31-09 09:08 PM   #7 
  - It was kind of hard to write, of course that's why I'm a firefighter and not an english teacher.  Fire_Medic_Dave   May-31-09 09:10 PM   # 
     - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   May-31-09 09:15 PM   #11 
  - Well, a question  BeFree   May-31-09 09:10 PM   #9 
  - Some do I suppose, some don't I guess. It was part of my training, I don't think about it now..  Fire_Medic_Dave   May-31-09 09:13 PM   #10 
  - Yes, but most experienced shooters don't fantasize about it...  spin   May-31-09 11:44 PM   #39 
  - What do you mean by "think about"?  Euromutt   Jun-01-09 01:29 AM   #48 
  - That depends on the meaning of that question  Callisto32   Jun-01-09 08:20 AM   #52 
  - i don't understand your question nt  votingupstart   Jun-04-09 09:54 PM   #72 
  - Hard to believe that no one has shown up to defend the behavior. Some good examples of it though.  Fire_Medic_Dave   May-31-09 10:43 PM   #30 
     - There have been attempts to hijack the O.P. but no defense of the behavior.  Hoopla Phil   May-31-09 11:57 PM   #41 
     - Indefensible perhaps? More likely just flat out untrue. No one likes defending lies.  Fire_Medic_Dave   Jun-01-09 12:00 AM   #43 
     - Not that hard to believe...  Caliman73   Jun-01-09 01:18 AM   #47 
        - If taking away firearms didn't work in reducing crime in  Israfel4   Jun-01-09 12:37 PM   #55 
           - In fairness, it should be pointed out...  Euromutt   Jun-01-09 07:29 PM   #57 
              - Deleted message  Name removed   Jun-02-09 04:27 AM   #66 
                 - I am in awe of your powers of argumentation!  Euromutt   Jun-02-09 05:41 AM   #68 
                    - I'm guessing you won't get a response.  Fire_Medic_Dave   Jun-02-09 10:52 AM   #70 
 

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