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Fri May-29-09 01:44 AM
Response to Reply #35 |
| 36. Until you start following DU rules, we're done talking. |
| -Pharmacist "defending his employees and customers" will not be charged after shooting robber |
virginia mountainman |
May-28-09 10:56 PM |
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Seeking Oxycontin, says "Let's get it on" to revolver wielding clerk... |
TheWraith |
May-28-09 11:02 PM |
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So when we go to get a RX we will be shot? |
rwheeler31 |
May-28-09 11:03 PM |
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If you do it with a gun, instead of a Rx, you run that risk..NT |
virginia mountainman |
May-28-09 11:04 PM |
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Welcome to Gun Worshipper FantasyLand! |
katandmoon |
May-28-09 11:08 PM |
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Thanks for driving by. Be sure and stop by again soon! |
friendly_iconoclast |
May-30-09 12:00 AM |
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Wow, that totally makes up for the toddler who shot her brother to death |
jgraz |
May-28-09 11:09 PM |
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"It's not like they could just order more pills or anything." I think it |
madmom |
May-29-09 12:05 AM |
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So just alway give in to robbers? |
IDFbunny |
May-29-09 12:30 AM |
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It's a lot harder for criminals to threaten your life if they can't get their hands on a gun |
jgraz |
May-29-09 12:48 AM |
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Easy Access?? |
virginia mountainman |
May-29-09 12:53 AM |
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30,000 gun deaths say it is. |
jgraz |
May-29-09 12:55 AM |
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You know what the law abiding citizen should have done if the robber had a knife instead of a gun? |
imdjh |
May-29-09 12:57 AM |
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Yeah, just like in the movies |
jgraz |
May-29-09 12:59 AM |
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You too? nt |
imdjh |
May-29-09 01:02 AM |
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I am sorry, your numbers are deeply flawed... |
virginia mountainman |
May-29-09 12:58 AM |
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Your screenshot is meaningless. The CDC lists 30,694 firearm deaths in 2005 |
jgraz |
May-29-09 01:11 AM |
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LOL that counts even POLICE shootings and Suicides, among others... |
virginia mountainman |
May-29-09 01:17 AM |
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Those are the numbers from your site. Sorry you don't like them, now that they prove you wrong. |
jgraz |
May-29-09 01:19 AM |
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As I said, your counting EVERY THING... |
virginia mountainman |
May-29-09 01:31 AM |
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How are those not "gun deaths"? |
jgraz |
May-29-09 01:35 AM |
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Ok, how do you propose to disarm the Police?? |
virginia mountainman |
May-29-09 01:36 AM |
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Irrelevant to the current discussion. Are there 30,000 gun deaths/year or not? |
jgraz |
May-29-09 01:39 AM |
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Yes there are. |
krispos42 |
May-29-09 05:14 PM |
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The same way you make them take down their red light cameras |
Shagbark Hickory |
May-30-09 02:57 PM |
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You've read FAR too many alarmist news stories. |
TheWraith |
May-29-09 11:23 AM |
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No, not really |
krispos42 |
May-29-09 05:07 PM |
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Describe a plan that makes it hard for a criminal to obtain and carry a gun concealed while making |
patriotvoice |
May-29-09 08:56 PM |
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bronx cheer - can't find the emoticon, well, not going to look for it. nt |
imdjh |
May-29-09 12:56 AM |
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Snaps to you, you were right here to Lovejoy the thread! n/t |
friendly_iconoclast |
May-29-09 10:55 PM |
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Pharma wants money, gun dealers want money, |
rwheeler31 |
May-28-09 11:10 PM |
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I have a surveilance video of a robber murdering a compliant clerk. |
Tim01 |
May-29-09 12:46 AM |
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And how many lives would have been saved if that criminal couldn't get a handgun? |
jgraz |
May-29-09 12:51 AM |
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LOL, how do you plan on taking away the guns from Criminals??? |
virginia mountainman |
May-29-09 12:52 AM |
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We can start with a sane debate on gun policy |
jgraz |
May-29-09 12:54 AM |
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Sane Debate?? |
virginia mountainman |
May-29-09 12:55 AM |
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I'm not a gun control advocate. At least not in the way that you think. |
jgraz |
May-29-09 01:16 AM |
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Can we sue GM for Drunk Drivers too?? |
virginia mountainman |
May-29-09 01:33 AM |
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You can try. How far do you think you'd get with such a lawsuit? |
jgraz |
May-29-09 01:38 AM |
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I asked you a question, what bullshit lies?? |
virginia mountainman |
May-29-09 01:43 AM |
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Until you start following DU rules, we're done talking. |
jgraz |
May-29-09 01:44 AM |
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You said in post. 25 |
virginia mountainman |
May-29-09 01:50 AM |
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OK, I get it. Honestly, your writing is a bit hard to parse. |
jgraz |
May-29-09 01:54 AM |
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If a gun manufacturer makes an unsafe product... |
spin |
May-29-09 10:22 PM |
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If he's breaking the rules alert on the post and it will be deleted. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
May-29-09 02:40 AM |
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What negligence... |
NewMoonTherian |
May-29-09 04:57 PM |
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Please read the Seventh Amendment to the Constitution |
jgraz |
May-29-09 05:08 PM |
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Clearly. |
NewMoonTherian |
May-29-09 08:46 PM |
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Hang on, there's no "loser pays" rule here? |
Euromutt |
Jun-01-09 06:29 AM |
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Correct, there is no "loser pays" rule. |
ManiacJoe |
Jun-01-09 07:55 PM |
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You're telling me. |
NewMoonTherian |
Jun-02-09 03:14 PM |
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You want to debate a civil right? Are you in California? Let's vote on it! nt |
imdjh |
May-29-09 01:03 AM |
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Bus driver stabbed to death. |
Tim01 |
May-29-09 01:12 AM |
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And your solution is more weaponry? |
jgraz |
May-29-09 01:24 AM |
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You are absolutly correct. |
Tim01 |
May-29-09 01:48 AM |
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I'm not on a crusade against guns. If anything, I'm on a crusade against idiocy |
jgraz |
May-29-09 02:05 AM |
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You are incorrect. There has yet to be a study that concludes the presence guns CAUSE deaths. |
Hoopla Phil |
May-29-09 02:09 AM |
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No seriously. We have to maintain some tenuous grasp on reality here. |
jgraz |
May-29-09 02:14 AM |
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Reality check. |
Hoopla Phil |
May-29-09 08:05 PM |
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Yes, a dose of reality is called for |
Euromutt |
May-30-09 06:38 AM |
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WOW, very good information there. Thank you. |
Hoopla Phil |
May-31-09 02:38 PM |
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The numbers are small enough as to be irrelevent. |
Tim01 |
May-29-09 02:33 AM |
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The alcohol canard is really weak sauce |
jgraz |
May-29-09 03:04 AM |
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The claim was |
WWFZD |
May-29-09 04:43 AM |
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Yes, it's literally correct but deceptively presented. |
jgraz |
May-29-09 05:09 AM |
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For the last time. I'm not doing this again. |
Tim01 |
May-29-09 10:54 AM |
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Check back when 12,000/year people kill themselves by drinking |
jgraz |
May-29-09 11:42 AM |
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AT LEAST TWICE as many people die from alcohol. Their deaths don't bother you. |
Tim01 |
May-29-09 04:42 PM |
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Actually, between 0.5 and 1,000,000,000 times as many people die from firearms each year |
jgraz |
May-29-09 05:03 PM |
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Just admit you dislike guns and that is reallly all there is to it. |
Tim01 |
May-29-09 04:46 PM |
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Just admit you like guns and that's all there is to it |
jgraz |
May-29-09 05:04 PM |
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I didn't think you would deny it. Have a good day. |
Tim01 |
May-29-09 05:35 PM |
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WOW....... hipocracy at it's finest right here folks. |
yay |
Jun-03-09 01:30 AM |
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Well said Tim01 n/t |
WWFZD |
May-29-09 04:42 AM |
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It's hard to know where to start... |
Euromutt |
May-29-09 07:51 PM |
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So we agree: stop focusing on the tool and start focusing on the root problems. |
patriotvoice |
May-29-09 09:05 PM |
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Here's my problem with celebrating incidents like this |
jgraz |
May-29-09 01:58 AM |
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It's both, IMO |
krispos42 |
May-29-09 05:33 PM |
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A strawman, a false dichotomy, and classism in one paragraph! |
friendly_iconoclast |
May-29-09 11:06 PM |
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I would add that you are not the first self-appointed zampolit we've seen. |
friendly_iconoclast |
May-30-09 12:06 AM |
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Here's my reason for celebrating an Innocent persons right to self defense. |
Hoopla Phil |
May-29-09 02:07 AM |
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So it's just childish taunting? Nice to know what your motivation is. |
jgraz |
May-29-09 02:10 AM |
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They do. The innocent ones. Or would you rather the reverse? |
Hoopla Phil |
May-29-09 02:11 AM |
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Or how about neither? |
jgraz |
May-29-09 02:14 AM |
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Remove the guns you say. And I'm in fantasy land? |
Hoopla Phil |
May-29-09 02:32 AM |
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Let me get this straight |
jgraz |
May-29-09 02:39 AM |
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When choosing between two bad options, |
ManiacJoe |
May-29-09 10:52 AM |
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I'd agree, if we only had those two options |
jgraz |
May-29-09 05:10 PM |
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No, that is the reality of it. When a person comes at you to |
Hoopla Phil |
May-29-09 07:42 PM |
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Feel free to list the missing options. |
ManiacJoe |
May-30-09 01:22 PM |
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Everything you just said. Republican fear machine-> oooh scary boogeyman |
Shagbark Hickory |
May-30-09 03:02 PM |
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That the innocent person was able to successfully defend against |
Hoopla Phil |
May-29-09 07:39 PM |
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desperados???? |
one-eyed fat man |
May-31-09 11:30 PM |
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Not taunting, proof trough real life incidents. |
Hoopla Phil |
May-29-09 02:12 AM |
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Also known as "anecdotal evidence" |
jgraz |
May-29-09 02:16 AM |
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And again with the "fantasy" rhetoric. LMAO!!! Thank you. |
Hoopla Phil |
May-29-09 02:29 AM |
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The word is accurate. You read about some tragic death and imbue it with magic freedom sparkles |
jgraz |
May-29-09 02:35 AM |
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No, this is the harsh reality that we are not in a civilized society and handguns are useful |
Hoopla Phil |
May-29-09 07:37 PM |
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Please explain to me how the death of this criminal is "tragic" |
proteus_lives |
Jun-01-09 04:47 PM |
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I'm invoking Arnold's Law |
Euromutt |
Jun-01-09 12:04 AM |
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I |
dashrif |
May-29-09 11:19 AM |
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How many thousands will he have paid for lawyers and other legal expeneses? |
Shagbark Hickory |
Jun-01-09 06:11 PM |
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Like Linda Raulerson came out ahead? |
Statistical |
Jun-02-09 07:50 PM |
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Having grown up in crime ridden miami I learned a couple things about being mugged or robbed. |
Shagbark Hickory |
Jun-03-09 06:24 PM |
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Disgusting |
X_Digger |
Jun-03-09 07:17 PM |
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Well it's either that or end up in a morgue. Sowwy. I'm not dirty harry, mate. |
Shagbark Hickory |
Jun-04-09 06:24 PM |
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Sorry, you're adding to the problem, mate. n/t |
X_Digger |
Jun-04-09 06:43 PM |
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How's that, mate? |
Shagbark Hickory |
Jun-05-09 07:14 PM |
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If you offer no resistance, and even 'pre-plan' to be robbed.. |
X_Digger |
Jun-05-09 07:40 PM |
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It's called common sense. Pick your battles. n/t |
Shagbark Hickory |
Jun-06-09 11:33 AM |
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No, it's called "easy pickings". |
Hoopla Phil |
Jun-09-09 06:40 PM |
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There's a simple way to fix that |
Euromutt |
Jun-02-09 08:36 PM |
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The only 'good' robber, rapist or carjacker |
The Green Manalishi |
Jun-01-09 06:51 PM |
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Welcome to DU...however... |
spin |
Jun-02-09 04:07 PM |
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Lethal force may be used inappropriately while the adrenaline is pumping. It often does n/t |
Shagbark Hickory |
Jun-02-09 07:08 PM |
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Unfortunately very true. That doesn't make it right or |
spin |
Jun-02-09 08:08 PM |
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I've seen the video in the Ersland/Parker case. In *no* way was the second shooting justified. |
friendly_iconoclast |
Jun-03-09 08:52 PM |
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I agree, but one interesting part of the story hasn't been covered much... |
spin |
Jun-04-09 01:09 PM |
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He was under the impression he had the right to murder the robber. Classic republican propoganda. |
Shagbark Hickory |
Jun-04-09 06:26 PM |
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He had the right to use deadly force to stop him. |
X_Digger |
Jun-04-09 06:53 PM |
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^^^ Classic republican propoganda ^^^ |
Shagbark Hickory |
Jun-05-09 07:14 PM |
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^^^ Classic BS non-post ^^^ n/t |
X_Digger |
Jun-05-09 07:41 PM |
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Please direct me to the law that says you can shoot people that jump you on the street.. Please. |
Shagbark Hickory |
Jun-05-09 10:28 PM |
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In Texas, Sec 9.32 |
X_Digger |
Jun-05-09 10:53 PM |
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Determining what is aggravated robbery. Whoa! That's going to be an expensive court case! |
Shagbark Hickory |
Jun-06-09 11:40 AM |
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I summarized.. here's the actual text.. both are covered |
X_Digger |
Jun-06-09 02:10 PM |
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In Washington, RCW 9A.16.050 |
Euromutt |
Jun-05-09 11:03 PM |
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To bad you didn't read what I asked. Your response is null & void |
Shagbark Hickory |
Jun-06-09 11:35 AM |
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That would be a very wrong reading of the law as posted. |
ManiacJoe |
Jun-06-09 03:56 PM |
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Are you aware of what the construction "either ... or" means? |
Euromutt |
Jun-06-09 04:35 PM |
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Florida statute 776.013 |
spin |
Jun-05-09 11:11 PM |
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Sounds like it's going to be an expensive court battle for you. I hope you're saving up for it. |
Shagbark Hickory |
Jun-06-09 11:37 AM |
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I don't believe you understand the "stand your ground law" at all... |
spin |
Jun-06-09 01:33 PM |
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Castle doctrine. Look it up. |
Hoopla Phil |
Jun-09-09 06:41 PM |
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So tell us, oh wise interpreter of gun laws, why *your* interpretations are correct? |
friendly_iconoclast |
Jun-09-09 07:56 PM |
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Is this the guy who went up to kid who was already down ..... |
cslinger59 |
Jun-10-09 10:06 AM |
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No, different case |
Euromutt |
Jun-10-09 10:17 AM |
#136 |
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