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Sat May-23-09 08:42 PM
Response to Reply #43 |
| 54. The wi-fi equipment was not defective. It was used improperly |
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Edited on Sat May-23-09 08:43 PM by friendly_iconoclast
Some lazy IT person or manager somewhere forgot to use (or chose not to use) strong encryption, and the bad guys
used this hole to break into TJX's network.
Is your company responsible for vetting all possible end users of its products?
Is your company liable for an end users' criminal misuse of one of its products if it is not defective?
If not, you are holding them to a lesser standard than you are gun manufacturers.
I'd venture to say because A) You don't like guns, and B) Suits against gun manufacturers and dealers
don't affect *your* paycheck...
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| -Why do most people think gun control is a good idea? |
russ1943 |
May-23-09 12:16 AM |
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In most places it is. |
rwheeler31 |
May-23-09 12:19 AM |
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The first sentence of the linked article states a patent lie. |
MercutioATC |
May-23-09 12:33 AM |
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I think your laws are weird that child is dead. |
rwheeler31 |
May-23-09 12:42 AM |
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Why would a charge of criminally negligent homicide be "weird"?? |
MercutioATC |
May-23-09 12:45 AM |
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Too Bad Illegal Possession doesn't translate into Illegal Acquisition! |
Ginny from the Block |
Jun-06-09 10:40 PM |
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It does, actually: 18 USC 922 (d) |
Euromutt |
Jun-07-09 02:33 AM |
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I serously doubt this little boy will be prosecuted for illegally "acquiring" this gun....... |
Ginny from the Block |
Jun-07-09 01:13 PM |
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Your blog is full of inaccuracies |
friendly_iconoclast |
Jun-07-09 02:56 PM |
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Too bad about your regressive approach to gun control |
friendly_iconoclast |
Jun-07-09 03:25 PM |
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There is a bit more to this story- the kid was apparently psycho |
imdjh |
May-23-09 12:49 AM |
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They kept a gun handy for a psycho? Smart. |
aquart |
May-23-09 02:15 AM |
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If only 9-year-olds were allowed concealed carry permits. |
jgraz |
May-23-09 12:58 AM |
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Goalposts in motion |
Merchant Marine |
May-23-09 01:17 AM |
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It's a very simple question: do more guns in the hands of more people equal more dead children? |
jgraz |
May-23-09 01:27 AM |
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The question is fallacious |
Euromutt |
May-23-09 02:23 AM |
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As much as I like the page you linked to, your use of fallacies is fallacious |
jgraz |
May-23-09 03:40 AM |
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Let me review |
Euromutt |
May-24-09 02:46 AM |
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Corellation is not causation |
Merchant Marine |
May-23-09 02:29 AM |
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Again, you're using a strawman argument. I never mentioned "confiscation". |
jgraz |
May-23-09 03:50 AM |
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Sue em all! |
oneshooter |
May-23-09 09:11 AM |
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And, of course, we get the GOP talking points on another issue |
jgraz |
May-23-09 12:18 PM |
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How can... |
inkool |
May-23-09 09:18 AM |
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The alleged RKBA says nothing about manufacturing |
jgraz |
May-23-09 12:21 PM |
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That is all well and good. |
inkool |
May-23-09 12:57 PM |
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Let's start with limiting overproduction for street sales |
jgraz |
May-23-09 01:08 PM |
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Is there any evidence that... |
inkool |
May-23-09 02:11 PM |
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Yes, there is. |
jgraz |
May-23-09 02:26 PM |
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Because juries never make mistakes, right? |
Euromutt |
May-25-09 02:52 AM |
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I'm pretty sure that the article excerpt is about Hamilton ... |
sl8 |
May-25-09 08:32 AM |
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I think you're right. |
Euromutt |
May-26-09 03:21 AM |
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Some industrious members... |
inkool |
May-26-09 07:44 AM |
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The FCC permits unlicensed radio stations, provided they broadcast with extremely low power. |
patriotvoice |
May-26-09 10:14 AM |
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Objection |
imdjh |
May-23-09 09:26 AM |
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Wow... |
jgraz |
May-23-09 12:25 PM |
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Pro-corporate and anti-government? |
imdjh |
May-23-09 12:57 PM |
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Not really. |
jgraz |
May-23-09 12:59 PM |
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"Anti-government"? What makes you think you represent the interests of government? |
friendly_iconoclast |
May-23-09 07:00 PM |
#38 |
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We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure |
jgraz |
May-23-09 07:18 PM |
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Yep. If the government does something I don't like, I'll seek to change it by democratic means. |
friendly_iconoclast |
May-23-09 08:14 PM |
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What in hell are you talking about? |
jgraz |
May-23-09 08:30 PM |
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You claimed I (and others) are anti-government |
friendly_iconoclast |
May-23-09 09:14 PM |
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Should we allow liability suits against the manufacturers of hooded sweatshirts? |
friendly_iconoclast |
May-23-09 11:53 AM |
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Next up: Lawsuits against Dell, HP, Apple, etc. |
friendly_iconoclast |
May-23-09 12:14 PM |
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Next up: more specious right-wing arguments |
jgraz |
May-23-09 12:26 PM |
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That's three times you've avoided the point.. n/t |
X_Digger |
May-23-09 06:17 PM |
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Wait .. there's a point? |
jgraz |
May-23-09 07:10 PM |
#39 |
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And you're regurgitiating the |
X_Digger |
May-23-09 08:00 PM |
#44 |
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Are you incapable of opening other posts on this thread? |
jgraz |
May-23-09 08:04 PM |
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Do you even know the terms of the law that you're railing against? |
X_Digger |
May-23-09 08:23 PM |
#50 |
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Yes. Do you? |
jgraz |
May-23-09 09:21 PM |
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*snort* Hip deep in BS |
X_Digger |
May-23-09 09:34 PM |
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Are you familiar with the American legal system? At all? |
jgraz |
May-23-09 09:44 PM |
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*sigh* facts just don't matter, do they.. |
X_Digger |
May-23-09 09:59 PM |
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three words: negligence per se |
jgraz |
May-23-09 10:05 PM |
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Squeal, Sugarman-lite. n/t |
X_Digger |
May-23-09 10:07 PM |
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Ahhh.. this one's gonna last all weekend. |
jgraz |
May-23-09 10:08 PM |
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I venture to say he'd change his tune if *his* company was sued... |
friendly_iconoclast |
May-24-09 03:10 PM |
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Dude, I used to work for Apple. We got sued on a daily basis. |
jgraz |
May-28-09 03:41 PM |
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So, if Apple gets sued because someone has child porn,malware, or a pirated movie on an Ipod... |
friendly_iconoclast |
Jun-07-09 04:27 PM |
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every time he can't address an argument, he uses ad hominem |
paulsby |
May-24-09 12:12 AM |
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Wow, you really need to read all the way to the end. |
jgraz |
May-24-09 12:34 AM |
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He usually just runs away crying actually. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
May-24-09 12:41 AM |
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More little-boy macho posturing |
jgraz |
May-24-09 12:47 AM |
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Never miss an opportunity to turn someone's tragedy into your personal political soapbox. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
May-24-09 12:59 AM |
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Well, if I bought I gun I could be just as brave as you, couldn't I? |
jgraz |
May-24-09 01:02 AM |
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How about you just stop being a hypocrite? We'll work on your bravery later. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
May-24-09 01:04 AM |
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'Specious' to you because *you* don't disapprove of hoodies or computers. |
friendly_iconoclast |
May-23-09 06:40 PM |
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So let's see if I have this straight... |
jgraz |
May-23-09 07:15 PM |
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Let's start with your strawman, and proceed onward from there... |
friendly_iconoclast |
May-23-09 08:04 PM |
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You'll forgive me if your stellar reasoning didn't make a friendly_iconoclast completist |
jgraz |
May-23-09 08:09 PM |
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Hey, you just "knew" how I felt and where I was coming from |
friendly_iconoclast |
May-23-09 09:07 PM |
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And you're trying to make this about you personally, |
jgraz |
May-23-09 09:26 PM |
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More hypocrisy, you never make anything personal do you. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
May-24-09 01:06 AM |
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Y'know, this thread has been over for a while |
jgraz |
May-24-09 01:10 AM |
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A fine example of running away crying. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
May-24-09 01:11 AM |
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Whatever, big guy |
jgraz |
May-24-09 01:15 AM |
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The hypocrisy never ceases with you does it. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
May-24-09 01:19 AM |
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I'll even give you a concrete example of computers used in crime... |
friendly_iconoclast |
May-23-09 07:16 PM |
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You're only succeeding in giving me concrete examples of your lack of critical thinking skills |
jgraz |
May-23-09 07:26 PM |
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Bleh |
Merchant Marine |
May-23-09 08:11 PM |
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I bet you're wondering what made that wooshing sound over your head |
jgraz |
May-23-09 08:24 PM |
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And hey, look, they can _still_ sue for that. |
X_Digger |
May-23-09 08:26 PM |
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And some have been successfully sued- Remington, for example,... |
friendly_iconoclast |
May-23-09 08:58 PM |
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NO THEY CAN NOT |
jgraz |
May-23-09 09:32 PM |
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Quite a leap in logic.. |
X_Digger |
May-23-09 09:43 PM |
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And my trip through remedial English class continues |
jgraz |
May-23-09 09:50 PM |
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Not at all.. |
X_Digger |
May-23-09 10:02 PM |
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That's OK. I can be magnanimous in victory. |
jgraz |
May-23-09 10:06 PM |
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You keep telling yourself that |
Euromutt |
May-25-09 06:27 AM |
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The wi-fi equipment was not defective. It was used improperly |
friendly_iconoclast |
May-23-09 08:42 PM |
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If the company can be shown to be negligent, they can be held liable |
jgraz |
May-23-09 09:36 PM |
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Gun corporations don't usually sell weapons directly, when they do it's not to criminals. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
May-24-09 12:43 AM |
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Just a tiny bit of independent thought is all I ask. |
jgraz |
May-24-09 12:53 AM |
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Your quote, "gun corporations continue to intentionally sell deadly weapons to "unfriendlies" |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
May-24-09 01:02 AM |
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Aw, I guess it was too much to ask. |
jgraz |
May-24-09 01:04 AM |
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As I thought you can't back up your lies. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
May-24-09 01:05 AM |
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Wait... you *thought*? |
jgraz |
May-24-09 01:05 AM |
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I would say you *lie* but we all know how good you are at that. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
May-24-09 01:07 AM |
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No, you don't |
Euromutt |
May-25-09 03:22 AM |
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"when their products are used in the commission of a crime" |
Spoonman |
May-23-09 02:20 PM |
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When I'm held up by a beer can, then we'll talk |
jgraz |
May-23-09 02:34 PM |
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How about if you're hit by a drunk driver? |
Euromutt |
May-25-09 02:45 AM |
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Once again, you're arguing for the obliteration of a civil right |
jgraz |
May-25-09 12:26 PM |
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Well, you missed the point |
Euromutt |
May-27-09 12:07 AM |
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Except that artificially depressing the market IS restricting gun ownership. |
krispos42 |
Jun-07-09 02:50 PM |
#113 |
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Never miss an opportunity to turn someone's tragedy into your personal political soapbox. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
May-24-09 12:38 AM |
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Do most people think that? |
Euromutt |
May-23-09 01:27 AM |
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Your question is vague. |
Indy Lurker |
May-23-09 06:56 AM |
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They don't. |
Statistical |
May-23-09 08:56 AM |
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Where is your evidence |
guardian |
May-23-09 02:31 PM |
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Because they are afraid of a black President |
slackmaster |
May-23-09 06:29 PM |
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msongs, is that you? *grin* n/t |
X_Digger |
May-23-09 09:44 PM |
#65 |
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Never miss an opportunity to turn someone's tragedy into your personal political soapbox. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
May-24-09 12:38 AM |
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Meh, the OP is a Lovejoy |
friendly_iconoclast |
May-24-09 02:52 PM |
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Gun control would have prevented this how? |
LAGC |
May-25-09 01:11 PM |
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Just more fear-mongering. |
proteus_lives |
Jun-07-09 04:32 AM |
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They're afraid of a black President |
slackmaster |
Jun-07-09 03:41 PM |
#116 |
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