virginia mountainman
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Fri Apr-10-09 10:32 AM
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| 40. This is NOT the gun show loophole... |
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It IS, a PRIVATE SALE. Open up NICS to all of us.
Private Sale, means just that if my neighbor, wants to buy something, I can sell it too him. I Will resist any laws that require private sales go thru an FFL dealer.
The ONLY way to enforce such a law, is registration...And since registration is so far out of the question, it is a non-starter...The government does not have any justification for trying to control my private property, or family heirlooms...It is NONE of their beeswax.
All I see is another "hit peice" on guns....Nothing new...
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| -20/20: Easy Access: $5,000 and One Hour Buys 10 Guns |
RamboLiberal |
Apr-09-09 04:53 PM |
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I wish I could buy them that easily in California |
slackmaster |
Apr-09-09 05:06 PM |
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Question? |
TXRAT2 |
Apr-10-09 06:27 AM |
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That's a great question, and I don't know the answer |
slackmaster |
Apr-10-09 08:17 AM |
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Problem is |
yay |
Apr-09-09 05:07 PM |
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A curio and relic collector's FFL costs $30 for three years |
slackmaster |
Apr-09-09 05:08 PM |
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Don't those just apply to well... curio's and relics though? |
yay |
Apr-09-09 05:11 PM |
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Yes, curios and relics |
slackmaster |
Apr-09-09 05:14 PM |
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Was going to say |
yay |
Apr-09-09 05:19 PM |
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A decent Garand is a great competition rifle |
slackmaster |
Apr-09-09 05:25 PM |
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I'd be a bit outgunned in 3 gun competition. |
yay |
Apr-09-09 05:28 PM |
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When will Mr. Samaha |
rrneck |
Apr-09-09 05:08 PM |
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Those individuals were not gun dealers |
slackmaster |
Apr-09-09 05:10 PM |
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No law was broken in Virginia |
RamboLiberal |
Apr-09-09 05:30 PM |
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Precisely |
primavera |
Apr-11-09 11:43 PM |
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What is a "private dealer"? |
Hangingon |
Apr-09-09 05:11 PM |
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Come to think of it |
yay |
Apr-09-09 05:34 PM |
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I would think if you are a criminal or if you want to purchase |
RamboLiberal |
Apr-09-09 05:51 PM |
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Or you buy one of the tens of millions of illegal/street guns |
Statistical |
Apr-09-09 06:08 PM |
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What would be the harm in having a law in every state |
RamboLiberal |
Apr-09-09 06:32 PM |
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The problem is the "gun show" mentality. |
ManiacJoe |
Apr-09-09 07:23 PM |
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Indentity theft |
yay |
Apr-09-09 07:52 PM |
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You aren't doing a background check, you are doing an NICS check. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Apr-09-09 10:27 PM |
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The problem is that to DO an NICS check you need personal information |
Statistical |
Apr-10-09 07:47 AM |
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I would use a mail notification system and severe penalties for misusing NICS |
slackmaster |
Apr-10-09 08:18 AM |
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True but an FFL is at least a tracked trusted person. |
Statistical |
Apr-10-09 09:25 AM |
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Under my system, I have your personal information in hand |
slackmaster |
Apr-10-09 09:39 AM |
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Of course somone stealing your info for identify fraud likely is not using their correct identity. |
Statistical |
Apr-10-09 10:30 AM |
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You know, that might just work.. |
X_Digger |
Apr-10-09 08:53 AM |
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You don't need to have a SS# |
rl6214 |
Apr-11-09 01:08 PM |
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My understanding is that the SSAN is not "necessary", but it really |
old mark |
Apr-11-09 03:55 PM |
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Sure, then you can use a FFL who gets the same information. |
aikoaiko |
Apr-10-09 07:58 AM |
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My parents were not very original. |
Statistical |
Apr-10-09 09:23 AM |
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In the case with your level of desired confidence you and the seller could go to a FFL. |
aikoaiko |
Apr-10-09 10:14 AM |
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You are not thinking this though far enough. |
ManiacJoe |
Apr-10-09 08:40 PM |
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The only "loophole" there is |
Furyataurus |
Apr-13-09 08:11 AM |
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I don't believe that |
slackmaster |
Apr-13-09 08:33 AM |
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You could also do the same by looking at the classifieds in the newspaper. |
AtheistCrusader |
Apr-10-09 03:10 AM |
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Meh. I've bought a few guns from friends of mine. |
scrinmaster |
Apr-09-09 07:57 PM |
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I bought six or seven firearms from a biker, none were C&Rs |
slackmaster |
Apr-10-09 08:26 AM |
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I've NEVER had this kind of experience at a Gun Show!! |
Hoopla Phil |
Apr-09-09 08:25 PM |
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Same here.. has to be a private seller, not FFL dealer |
X_Digger |
Apr-09-09 08:35 PM |
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Did they point out that the VT shooter did NOT buy his guns from private sellers |
benEzra |
Apr-10-09 07:06 AM |
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Just open NICS to private sellers and states can require it as part their laws. |
aikoaiko |
Apr-10-09 07:39 AM |
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This seems like such a good solution. I'm going to start writing letters on this one. |
Tim01 |
Apr-10-09 08:21 AM |
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Thanks for that Tim - I've been doing so for years |
slackmaster |
Apr-10-09 08:27 AM |
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Open an FBI crime database to the public?? |
MercutioATC |
Apr-12-09 09:26 AM |
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NICS is not a crime database - It is a list of prohibited persons |
slackmaster |
Apr-13-09 08:34 AM |
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This is NOT the gun show loophole... |
virginia mountainman |
Apr-10-09 10:32 AM |
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I have gone to 3 or 4 gun shows a year |
rl6214 |
Apr-11-09 01:02 PM |
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Different states have different laws |
primavera |
Apr-12-09 12:21 PM |
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Here's a good link for laws by state.. |
X_Digger |
Apr-12-09 01:14 PM |
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That was nuts! |
spanky_bear |
Apr-12-09 11:10 PM |
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What's the big deal? |
jeepnstein |
Apr-13-09 08:55 AM |
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Finally an honest gun control person. Welcome to DU. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Apr-13-09 10:33 PM |
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