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gorfle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-08-09 11:02 AM
Response to Reply #28
77. "And this is how guns become untraceable."
The untraceable nature of private firearm sales in this country is what insures anonymous firearm ownership. This is a good thing.
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  -Columbine dad advocates for tighter gun control re: gun shows Bluebear  Apr-07-09 03:24 PM   #0 
  - private dealer? kinda an oxymoron.  Statistical   Apr-07-09 03:32 PM   #1 
  - You think the dad is being dishonest?  Bluebear   Apr-07-09 03:34 PM   #2 
  - Dishonest, unable to aproach the issue logically because of his loss or misled.  Statistical   Apr-07-09 03:36 PM   #3 
  - Tom Mauser has been doing this for 10 years since Columbine  hlthe2b   Apr-07-09 03:56 PM   #13 
  - You seem to know a lot about Tom Mauser's work so I'll ask a question.  aikoaiko   Apr-07-09 05:00 PM   #30 
  - I've met him a couple of times. Friends of mine raced that day  hlthe2b   Apr-07-09 07:13 PM   #41 
     - It's still incorrect  raimius   May-07-09 03:02 AM   #108 
  - Hear Here!!!!  Froward69   Apr-08-09 09:27 AM   #69 
  - It's quite simple.  gorfle   Apr-08-09 10:25 AM   #70 
  - self-delete  LanternWaste   Apr-07-09 06:07 PM   #39 
  - Of course it couldn't be that the dealer in question is just breaking the law?  baldguy   Apr-08-09 09:13 PM   #90 
     - The person in question wasn't a dealer  rl6214   May-06-09 09:59 AM   #93 
        - No,  HALO141   May-06-09 11:42 AM   #97 
  - he may be sincere in his intentions, but it seems like he needs to fudge the facts  hendo   Apr-07-09 10:08 PM   #58 
  - Not lying. Misinformed.  AtheistCrusader   Apr-08-09 03:28 AM   #67 
  - Here come the gun-lovers, deliberately trying to obscure the facts  Hugabear   Apr-07-09 03:38 PM   #4 
  - Delete, posted in wrong reply......  sailor65   Apr-07-09 03:43 PM   #7 
  - It isn't a loophole  Statistical   Apr-07-09 03:44 PM   #9 
  - If it takes place at a gun show, then it absolutely should require a background check.  Hugabear   Apr-07-09 04:05 PM   #17 
  - So let me make sure I get this straight  Statistical   Apr-07-09 04:18 PM   #22 
  - You keep bringing up a red herring argument, but I stand by my argument.  Hugabear   Apr-07-09 04:31 PM   #26 
  - I don't think it will end there.  Statistical   Apr-07-09 04:39 PM   #27 
     - It would not bother me to require a background check for ALL gun sales  Hugabear   Apr-07-09 09:34 PM   #51 
        - How would you propose  rl6214   Apr-07-09 10:13 PM   #60 
        - Dems and pugs alike have ran for office for the past 15 years  pipoman   Apr-08-09 12:45 AM   #65 
        - About making NICS free.  Callisto32   May-06-09 07:34 PM   #102 
           - Actually, here in TX..  X_Digger   May-06-09 08:45 PM   #104 
              - Sounds good.  Callisto32   May-06-09 08:52 PM   #105 
                 - It happens because..  X_Digger   May-06-09 09:19 PM   #106 
        - Private parties are not allowed to use NICS  AtheistCrusader   Apr-08-09 03:35 AM   #68 
        - Ding!  gorfle   Apr-08-09 10:54 AM   #76 
  - third time you gave that statistic, care to share a link next time? nt  G_j   Apr-07-09 05:38 PM   #36 
     - Sure. DOJ Firearm Use Statistics  Statistical   Apr-07-09 05:49 PM   #37 
        - thanks  G_j   Apr-07-09 09:41 PM   #53 
  - You seem to be under the impression that the geographic  ManiacJoe   Apr-07-09 07:41 PM   #44 
  - Nope.  gorfle   Apr-08-09 10:50 AM   #75 
  - Okay , just one.........  russ1943   Apr-07-09 10:25 PM   #62 
  - Have the government  rl6214   Apr-07-09 10:09 PM   #59 
  - Yes, that is true.  gorfle   Apr-08-09 10:41 AM   #72 
  - I doubt that any of us are opposed at all.  rl6214   May-06-09 10:05 AM   #94 
  - How is it a loophole?  Callisto32   May-06-09 07:25 PM   #101 
  - Of course there is. An individual who makes his living, or a substantial  RaleighNCDUer   Apr-07-09 03:41 PM   #5 
  - Someone who makes a living buying and selling weapons for pofit IS A DEALER  Statistical   Apr-07-09 03:45 PM   #10 
  - The ATF, and real FFL dealers, watch like hawks for that shit.  FudaFuda   Apr-07-09 03:49 PM   #11 
  - #1, it's ATF, not The ATF. #2, ATF wishes it had the manpower and budget to do that.  DevonRex   Apr-07-09 04:18 PM   #21 
     - You're an ATF agent? Do you agree with the content of the article?  FudaFuda   Apr-07-09 04:24 PM   #23 
     - I left ATF in 1997. A private citizen can indeed set up a booth at a gun show  DevonRex   Apr-07-09 04:58 PM   #28 
        - Thanks. I appreciate the reply.  FudaFuda   Apr-07-09 08:32 PM   #46 
        - "And this is how guns become untraceable."  gorfle   Apr-08-09 11:02 AM   #77 
        - States have the power to regulate what goes on at gun shows  slackmaster   Apr-08-09 12:14 PM   #84 
     - Wouldn't an agent know that it is Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives?  Statistical   Apr-07-09 04:29 PM   #25 
     - That was just a silly thing to say.  DevonRex   Apr-07-09 04:59 PM   #29 
     - actually, you are wrong too  paulsby   May-06-09 05:37 PM   #99 
  - Yes, there are many people who do that. They're called unlicensed dealers.  DevonRex   Apr-07-09 05:09 PM   #32 
  - Have you ever used the term "drug dealer"?  Fumesucker   Apr-07-09 03:41 PM   #6 
  - No, he ALWAYS refers to them as "unlicensed private pharmacists".  Richard Steele   Apr-07-09 09:40 PM   #52 
  - Why Are You Defending This?  mudesi   Apr-07-09 05:28 PM   #34 
  - I just googled private gun dealer  mzmolly   Apr-08-09 12:22 PM   #85 
  - I've had background checks every time I've bought a gun...  sailor65   Apr-07-09 03:44 PM   #8 
  - And now there's in-state Internet private sales....  Junkdrawer   Apr-07-09 03:54 PM   #12 
  - I just emailed the governor & my reps in PA about this  RamboLiberal   Apr-07-09 04:00 PM   #14 
  - I somewhat agree, if ...  FudaFuda   Apr-07-09 04:04 PM   #15 
     - That would be fine with me as well  RamboLiberal   Apr-07-09 04:06 PM   #19 
        - "Antiques" already covered by C&R FFL  FudaFuda   Apr-07-09 04:10 PM   #20 
           - Having a C&R License  rl6214   Apr-07-09 10:21 PM   #61 
  - No, you can't  Callisto32   May-06-09 07:48 PM   #103 
  - False.  raimius   May-07-09 02:44 AM   #107 
  - One thing that always pissed me off about Columbine  RamboLiberal   Apr-07-09 04:04 PM   #16 
  - Another couple things that defy logic  Statistical   Apr-07-09 04:25 PM   #24 
  - You can quit being PO'd  russ1943   Apr-08-09 12:07 AM   #64 
     - Exactly. She did not break the law in any way. nt  DevonRex   Apr-08-09 10:28 AM   #71 
  - +3  xchrom   Apr-07-09 04:06 PM   #18 
  - Simple remedy: open NICS to the public and require that an inquiry be made when transferring a gun.  aikoaiko   Apr-07-09 05:06 PM   #31 
  - Stop talking sense aikoaiko...  Redneck Socialist   Apr-07-09 10:04 PM   #56 
  - I'm sure this man's grief is profound, and his desire to do something to  Raskolnik   Apr-07-09 05:11 PM   #33 
  - I guess he'll get smeared by the DU gun lobby as well.....  marmar   Apr-07-09 05:32 PM   #35 
  - The first answer here said the man is lying.  Bluebear   Apr-07-09 06:44 PM   #40 
     - Some people have no heart and no sense. Thank you for the OP.  DevonRex   Apr-07-09 07:53 PM   #45 
        - And some people believe that civil rights shouldn't be limited every time someone makes  Raskolnik   Apr-07-09 09:26 PM   #49 
  - Gun shows have absolutely nothing to do with it.  TheWraith   Apr-07-09 05:52 PM   #38 
  - All the more reason to track guns.  onehandle   Apr-07-09 07:30 PM   #42 
     - Please tell me you don't believe any of that nonsense you just spread.  TheWraith   Apr-07-09 09:20 PM   #47 
     - There's no way to track guns by satellite? Sure there is. It would be expensive, but possible.  onehandle   Apr-08-09 12:07 PM   #78 
     - One of the dumber posts I've seen re: this issue, and that's saying something. n/t  Raskolnik   Apr-07-09 09:20 PM   #48 
     - Oh, I've seen dumber. nt  onehandle   Apr-08-09 12:08 PM   #79 
     - I wonder what other civil rights you feel the same way about.  scrinmaster   Apr-07-09 09:42 PM   #54 
     - Imbedded sirens.  onehandle   Apr-08-09 12:08 PM   #80 
     - I think we should track the people instead, then we will know exactly who does what to whom.  jmg257   Apr-07-09 09:58 PM   #55 
     - Are you suggesting that we implant the satellite tracking devices into the people themselves?  onehandle   Apr-08-09 12:10 PM   #82 
        - case law says otherwise  paulsby   May-06-09 05:42 PM   #100 
     - Are you sure you really want to do this?  rl6214   Apr-07-09 10:26 PM   #63 
     - Hey, life is dangerous... Apparently.  onehandle   Apr-08-09 12:09 PM   #81 
     - Or it will cause the burglar to wait till you leave  AtheistCrusader   Apr-08-09 12:28 PM   #86 
        - Under my plan, you would be required to carry your guns with you at all times.  onehandle   Apr-08-09 02:09 PM   #87 
           - Will you supply me with a wheelbarrow?  AtheistCrusader   Apr-08-09 03:55 PM   #88 
              - Laws are laws.  onehandle   Apr-08-09 07:07 PM   #89 
                 - Fetish huh?  rl6214   May-06-09 10:32 AM   #96 
     - The bigotry of gun banners never ceases to amaze me  slackmaster   Apr-08-09 10:50 AM   #74 
     - I got that covered. See comment #81. nt  onehandle   Apr-08-09 12:11 PM   #83 
     - You sound like a recovering AK-holic...  Howzit   May-06-09 12:33 AM   #92 
     - Thanks, you just made my day. I bookmarked your post.  benEzra   May-06-09 10:10 AM   #95 
  - No new laws needed. Just enforce the existing ones.  ManiacJoe   Apr-07-09 07:35 PM   #43 
  - K&R  Sparkly   Apr-07-09 09:27 PM   #50 
  - First  rl6214   Apr-07-09 10:05 PM   #57 
  - It sound as if this man is  pipoman   Apr-08-09 01:04 AM   #66 
  - The issue isn't gun shows, it's the inability of private sellers to do background checks  slackmaster   Apr-08-09 10:47 AM   #73 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   May-05-09 10:26 PM   #91 
  - "wears his son's shoes"  Tejas   May-06-09 05:19 PM   #98 
 

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