Tim01
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Sat Apr-04-09 12:52 PM
Response to Reply #9 |
| 53. All you did is say we are wrong. That doesn't make sense. |
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Show me that we are wrong on ANY of those ideas. You listed 5. At least offer a reason for saying you are right and we are wrong.
I don't say guns should be used to prevent theft. I say guns should be used to protect life. Bankers and all those guys are not using violence. You are fixing the wrong problem.
You are saying
1) There are not dangerous places.
2) Police are always close enough to protect everybody
3) All dangerous people can be avoided
4) A gun doesn't help a save a victim.
5) There are more effective ways to prevent violence than personal reliance.
Offer an argument for your points. Some reason to believe these are true.Something, anything.
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| -Guns protect average people. |
Tim01 |
Apr-04-09 09:21 AM |
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All the people who died in Binghamton yesterday were average people. |
baldguy |
Apr-04-09 09:27 AM |
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He would have killed more with some gasoline. |
Tim01 |
Apr-04-09 09:31 AM |
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Gasoline isn't prepackaged in a handy little device designed to kill people. |
baldguy |
Apr-04-09 10:02 AM |
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Molotov cocktail |
rrneck |
Apr-04-09 11:12 AM |
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I'll bet he wasn't the problem until yesterday. |
Old and In the Way |
Apr-04-09 10:14 AM |
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Therefore... (logical conclusion?) |
X_Digger |
Apr-04-09 10:23 AM |
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I agree Tim |
safeinOhio |
Apr-04-09 09:36 AM |
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Did you know a .50 has never been used to commit a crime in the U.S.? |
Tim01 |
Apr-04-09 09:40 AM |
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Sure, |
safeinOhio |
Apr-04-09 09:50 AM |
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Cripes, not the plane thing again.. |
X_Digger |
Apr-04-09 10:10 AM |
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Yup |
Furyataurus |
Apr-04-09 10:13 AM |
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Not much way to do that. |
rrneck |
Apr-04-09 11:18 AM |
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A .50 could be used for bad stuff. |
Tim01 |
Apr-04-09 12:16 PM |
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Let's arm a bunch of half blind scared senior citizens |
tularetom |
Apr-04-09 09:41 AM |
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That is a good reason to |
safeinOhio |
Apr-04-09 09:54 AM |
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In most states CCW holders are licensed already... |
spin |
Apr-04-09 10:25 AM |
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I had to take a class |
rl6214 |
Apr-04-09 11:27 AM |
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Guns are like cars. |
Tim01 |
Apr-04-09 09:56 AM |
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It sure as hell was not the case 50 years ago when my mom bought those guns |
tularetom |
Apr-04-09 10:08 AM |
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Register every gun, license every gun owner. |
baldguy |
Apr-04-09 10:16 AM |
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Well let's all just do what YOU want |
guardian |
Apr-04-09 10:36 AM |
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I think the Constitution sis a living document which should be reexamined from time to time |
baldguy |
Apr-04-09 10:45 AM |
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Then get back to us when you've repealed the 2nd. n/t |
X_Digger |
Apr-04-09 10:48 AM |
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Something needs to be "re-examined" |
guardian |
Apr-04-09 10:50 AM |
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Sure, God carved the Constitution is stone & handed it to Thomas Jefferson |
baldguy |
Apr-04-09 10:56 AM |
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I think the Constitution sis a living document which should be reexamined from time to time |
rrneck |
Apr-04-09 03:07 PM |
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You lost me at "Give me a fucking break" |
poboyross |
Apr-05-09 06:33 PM |
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I don't think |
rrneck |
Apr-04-09 11:19 AM |
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The 4 cops shot in Pittsburgh had guns. |
MrPerson |
Apr-04-09 09:45 AM |
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Guns seem not to have protected the Pittsburg cops wounded *today* after yesterday's mass shooting |
villager |
Apr-04-09 09:53 AM |
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Give up your computer |
rl6214 |
Apr-04-09 11:30 AM |
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If you can think past the NRA talking points.... |
villager |
Apr-04-09 01:43 PM |
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and you conveniently ignore that a gun was used to subdue this particular shooter |
aikoaiko |
Apr-04-09 11:41 AM |
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The question is -- do you believe in any reasonable resriction on any weapon |
villager |
Apr-04-09 01:58 PM |
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Ok, you ask three good questions. |
aikoaiko |
Apr-04-09 09:59 PM |
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So, if we are going to generalize, let me suggest this... |
HereSince1628 |
Apr-04-09 09:54 AM |
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good point |
safeinOhio |
Apr-04-09 10:05 AM |
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Owning and carrying firearms is a hobby. |
baldguy |
Apr-04-09 10:06 AM |
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Nice try to marginalize the second amendment |
X_Digger |
Apr-04-09 10:16 AM |
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#11 Guns are like cars. |
baldguy |
Apr-04-09 10:17 AM |
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I was adressing you, not the OP, but.. |
X_Digger |
Apr-04-09 10:29 AM |
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The 2nd Amendment no longer reflects the realities of our society |
baldguy |
Apr-04-09 10:39 AM |
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Perhaps you wish to share... |
jeepnstein |
Apr-04-09 10:43 AM |
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Its not the job of the police to protect the public? |
baldguy |
Apr-04-09 10:49 AM |
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Talk to the SCOTUS |
X_Digger |
Apr-04-09 10:54 AM |
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That's right. |
jeepnstein |
Apr-04-09 05:08 PM |
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They enforce laws and arrest criminals. |
Tim01 |
Apr-05-09 07:27 AM |
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*crickets* n/t |
X_Digger |
Apr-05-09 01:06 PM |
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I think you are asking for a lot |
guardian |
Apr-04-09 10:57 AM |
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A civillian police force |
rrneck |
Apr-04-09 11:26 AM |
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No, my reason for owning firearms |
rl6214 |
Apr-04-09 11:38 AM |
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"The 2nd Amendment no longer reflects the realities of our society" |
Iktomiwicasa |
Apr-04-09 12:20 PM |
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If society devolves to a point where armed revolt is a reasonable response to overreaching govt powe... |
baldguy |
Apr-04-09 03:30 PM |
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It'll help more than you. |
jeepnstein |
Apr-04-09 05:08 PM |
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If you believe that, you're delusional and will be among the first to be killed. |
baldguy |
Apr-04-09 06:31 PM |
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A car can't protect you if you are walking down an alley. |
Tim01 |
Apr-04-09 12:41 PM |
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The Second Amendment is |
safeinOhio |
Apr-04-09 10:36 AM |
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I'd suggest some contemporary reading.. |
X_Digger |
Apr-04-09 10:45 AM |
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And you don't get to determine |
rl6214 |
Apr-04-09 11:37 AM |
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facepalm. |
aikoaiko |
Apr-04-09 11:42 AM |
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My responsible (and legal) carrying might *be* important to your family's safety. |
poboyross |
Apr-05-09 06:47 PM |
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All you did is say we are wrong. That doesn't make sense. |
Tim01 |
Apr-04-09 12:52 PM |
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Kind of apples and oranges. But your point about mega-thieves |
villager |
Apr-04-09 02:01 PM |
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This post very good example of the dysfunctional nature of fear and obsession |
depakid |
Apr-04-09 11:03 AM |
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The fear of guns is irrational and emotional. |
Tim01 |
Apr-04-09 12:23 PM |
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"If you think you would be safe if there were not guns, PROVE IT" |
depakid |
Apr-04-09 01:25 PM |
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You have offered no evidence to support your point of view. None. |
Tim01 |
Apr-04-09 01:34 PM |
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"I am not going to continue this particular argument. " |
depakid |
Apr-04-09 01:39 PM |
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That's because America has a monopoly on crazy folks....period. |
poboyross |
Apr-05-09 06:48 PM |
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There y'go. |
rrneck |
Apr-04-09 11:32 AM |
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3 teens rob and then beat a man to death in chicago. |
Tim01 |
Apr-04-09 03:38 PM |
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