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liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-09 06:25 PM
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50. You know, I was always a gung-ho gun control person
and I still strongly believe in reasonable restrictions and regulations and responsibility and I have a problem with the "guns uber alles" mentality and always will. However, since I moved to South Dakota a few years ago, I've come to understand the passion for individual gun ownership, especially in rural areas. While I started out living in a SD city, I now live in a very rural, isolated area, with very little police presence. Should someone break into our house or otherwise accost or threaten me and/or hubby with a gun or other weapon, there would simply be no time for the police to arrive, but we'd be lucky if they even did or if there was anyone available. People in rural areas, which is most of the state, are pretty much on their own as far as law enforcement is concerned. People DO have the right to protect themselves.
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  -Man Shot, Killed, After Breaking Into Home and Firing Shots NaturalHigh  Feb-08-09 05:11 PM   #0 
  - When threatened by a violent criminal and SECONDS count, police are just MINUTES away. n/t  jody   Feb-08-09 05:13 PM   #1 
  - Am trying to make sense of your posting statement n/t  Whoa_Nelly   Feb-08-09 05:15 PM   #2 
     - Too late, the police arrive to take notes, I think is the point. n/t  Tuesday Afternoon   Feb-08-09 05:18 PM   #5 
     - Thought that, and then thought it the other way, too.  Whoa_Nelly   Feb-08-09 08:05 PM   #78 
     - It's quite simple, SCOTUS says government is not obligated to protect anyone unless she/he is in  jody   Feb-08-09 05:24 PM   #7 
        - That's what I thought you meant the first time I read your post  Whoa_Nelly   Feb-08-09 08:05 PM   #77 
           - Have a nice evening.  jody   Feb-08-09 08:08 PM   #82 
  - Don't these posts routinely come from the gun forum.  elocs   Feb-08-09 05:18 PM   #3 
  - Why do you want to censor discussion of the Right to Keep and Bear Arms? n/t  jody   Feb-08-09 05:25 PM   #9 
  - ...  NaturalHigh   Feb-08-09 05:49 PM   #20 
  - Yeah, God forbid we should ever  liberalhistorian   Feb-08-09 06:20 PM   #49 
  - Does the discussion make you uncomfortable? n/t  Iktomiwicasa   Feb-08-09 07:16 PM   #64 
     - I notice that you failed to refute my point that these posts usually ARE in the gun forum.  elocs   Feb-08-09 07:47 PM   #76 
        - Nothing to refute...  Iktomiwicasa   Feb-08-09 08:23 PM   #85 
  - "Tulsa Teenager Arrested in Deadly Shooting," "Area Shootings Leave Two Dead," etc.  villager   Feb-08-09 05:18 PM   #4 
  - Or it could be stated "criminal misuse of firearms".  wartrace   Feb-08-09 05:30 PM   #11 
  - I always find this paradox interesting  bluestateguy   Feb-08-09 05:35 PM   #13 
  - Those aren't liberals, they're idiots.  ferrous wheel   Feb-08-09 05:46 PM   #15 
  - No shit! n/t  Iktomiwicasa   Feb-08-09 07:17 PM   #65 
  - I always find it interesting that armchair revolutionaries try to justify their NRA pandering  villager   Feb-08-09 05:52 PM   #23 
  - And I find it interesting that some people are willing to bend over and let the state  ferrous wheel   Feb-08-09 06:05 PM   #37 
  - Yes, that's quite true that too much gun violence targets  liberalhistorian   Feb-08-09 06:30 PM   #52 
  - God forbid innocent victims shoot back in self defense  bigbadwolf   Feb-09-09 02:53 PM   #92 
  - No, they don't anyone to be armed.  Seeking Serenity   Feb-08-09 06:11 PM   #45 
  - That's a great idea. Let's not want anyone to get cancer or heart attacks or  ferrous wheel   Feb-08-09 06:13 PM   #46 
     - You like revolvers don't you?  tburnsten   Feb-10-09 08:34 AM   #101 
  - You know, I was always a gung-ho gun control person  liberalhistorian   Feb-08-09 06:25 PM   #50 
  - You are absolutely right....  bigbadwolf   Feb-09-09 03:02 PM   #94 
  - I always find these straw bogeymen fascinating  iverglas   Feb-08-09 08:41 PM   #86 
  - Any thoughts about the *murder* victims, "Wartrace?"  villager   Feb-08-09 05:53 PM   #24 
     - Any thoughts about the criminals who *murder* "villager"?  wartrace   Feb-08-09 07:04 PM   #61 
        - ah, another predictably, NRA-blinded post! Using an inability to debate  villager   Feb-08-09 07:26 PM   #67 
           - A splendid idea.  wartrace   Feb-08-09 07:33 PM   #71 
  - Quite possibly, if draconian gun laws are passed...  spin   Feb-08-09 05:44 PM   #14 
  - Does the use of firearms by criminals (such as the one who broke into the house)...  NaturalHigh   Feb-08-09 05:47 PM   #17 
  - It makes no sense at all unless you are a criminal.  wartrace   Feb-09-09 07:21 PM   #98 
     - You don't fit the imaginated profile. Shut the fuck up.  tburnsten   Feb-09-09 10:20 PM   #99 
     - Sorry I posted after having a couple russian lemonades  tburnsten   Feb-10-09 08:33 AM   #100 
  - Innocent?? The 23 year old boyfriend of a 15 year old girl is shot by her  ferrous wheel   Feb-08-09 05:51 PM   #21 
  - "Three Men At Large After Shooting Outside Restaurant"  villager   Feb-08-09 05:55 PM   #27 
     - So what is your point, that bad guys have guns and if they shoot someone, tough shit  ferrous wheel   Feb-08-09 06:01 PM   #32 
        - "Skokie Shooting Kills 1, Injures 1"  villager   Feb-08-09 06:04 PM   #35 
  - Feel free to post them, as you have here, you actually start your own thread.  Fire_Medic_Dave   Feb-08-09 07:33 PM   #70 
  - Criminals seem to do this quite often.  Fire_Medic_Dave   Feb-08-09 07:34 PM   #73 
  - huh  iverglas   Feb-08-09 08:43 PM   #87 
  - Thanks for the ANTECDOTE...  ddeclue   Feb-08-09 05:20 PM   #6 
  - Don't know about ANTECDOTE but a gun is a good ANTIDOTE for a violent criminal. n/t  jody   Feb-08-09 05:34 PM   #12 
  - Cleanup in aisle 8!!!  bluestateguy   Feb-08-09 05:24 PM   #8 
  - Jeez, Tulsa sounds like the wild west. Check the links on NewsOn6  TheCowsCameHome   Feb-08-09 05:30 PM   #10 
  - Yeah, Tulsa is turning into a real cesspool.  NaturalHigh   Feb-08-09 05:48 PM   #19 
  - We had what appeared to be a rapid raccoon stumbling about our wooded yard.  pnwmom   Feb-08-09 05:46 PM   #16 
  - Where I live we (the inhabitants of the area) regularly shoot abandoned dogs and cats.  ferrous wheel   Feb-08-09 05:54 PM   #26 
  - Ever think about maybe, just maybe, taking them to the animal  liberalhistorian   Feb-08-09 06:32 PM   #54 
     - There is no "animal shelter" in this county. How do you figure roadkill  ferrous wheel   Feb-08-09 06:51 PM   #58 
     - In rural areas those facilities can be few and far between.  pnwmom   Feb-08-09 07:29 PM   #69 
  - Good thing it was a rapid raccoon--  Jackpine Radical   Feb-08-09 07:08 PM   #63 
  - LOL. Funny thing is,  pnwmom   Feb-08-09 07:33 PM   #72 
  - Sure, as long as you used an appropriate caliber with appropriate ammunition  tburnsten   Feb-09-09 10:12 AM   #90 
  - The more significant "incidents" are the ones that don't happen  Oak2004   Feb-08-09 05:47 PM   #18 
  - Visit DU's Guns Fortress and read "Mugging prevented in Savannah, GA"  jody   Feb-08-09 05:55 PM   #28 
  - Yes, we all sit around our living rooms with a gun to hand every night  bread_and_roses   Feb-08-09 05:51 PM   #22 
  - It's fascinating how some people automatically side with the crazed killers  ferrous wheel   Feb-08-09 05:56 PM   #29 
  - You think people at DU 'automatically side with crazed killers'? Show me.  Bluebear   Feb-08-09 06:05 PM   #36 
     - Jeezus, are you serious? Read the threads...they are full of posters saying  ferrous wheel   Feb-08-09 06:10 PM   #42 
        - Please tell me you were trolling. Who is "siding with crazed killers"?  Bluebear   Feb-08-09 06:10 PM   #43 
        - The posters who don't seem to think that  liberalhistorian   Feb-08-09 06:37 PM   #56 
           - I'm sorry too. Please cite which post # is feeling sorry for the man who broke in. Thanks.  Bluebear   Feb-08-09 08:06 PM   #80 
        - Actually no they're not. Straw man & all that.  Garbo 2004   Feb-08-09 08:07 PM   #81 
  - I have a friend down the street who keeps eight loaded guns in his house.  NaturalHigh   Feb-08-09 05:56 PM   #30 
  - When I lived in Tampa, I had a loaded weapon in every room...  spin   Feb-08-09 06:20 PM   #48 
  - I respect your choice not to keep and bear arms to defend yourself but don't deny others their  jody   Feb-08-09 06:01 PM   #33 
  - Perhaps the shooter had a concealed carry license...  spin   Feb-08-09 06:09 PM   #41 
  - Back when I lived in the "sticks"  Robb   Feb-08-09 06:28 PM   #51 
  - always strikes me that way too  iverglas   Feb-08-09 08:49 PM   #88 
  - No they don't  tburnsten   Feb-09-09 03:01 PM   #93 
  - "For anyone who thinks that private citizens should never own guns..."  PassingFair   Feb-08-09 05:54 PM   #25 
  - Please cite credible stats proving your assertion "HUNDREDS of stories like this to every ONE like  jody   Feb-08-09 05:59 PM   #31 
  - I can't prove the hundreds...  PassingFair   Feb-08-09 06:31 PM   #53 
     - That study has been debunked, see discussion at the link below. What else do you have?  jody   Feb-08-09 07:00 PM   #60 
     - That one's known as the Body Count Fallacy - We've seen it before  slackmaster   Feb-09-09 05:43 PM   #96 
  - You have just presented a rationale for banning vodka. They tried that kind of social control  ferrous wheel   Feb-08-09 06:03 PM   #34 
  - You think people at DU think the Bill of Rights ends after the 1st amendment? Show me.  Bluebear   Feb-08-09 06:06 PM   #39 
     - I'm not really in a position to teach you to read, sorry.  ferrous wheel   Feb-08-09 06:11 PM   #44 
        - Gee, welcome to DU. You add so much sunlight to our little family.  Bluebear   Feb-08-09 06:14 PM   #47 
  - He could have killed his daughter while driving drunk  pnwmom   Feb-08-09 06:06 PM   #38 
  - But he WOULD have gone to jail.  PassingFair   Feb-08-09 06:33 PM   #55 
     - Good point.  LisaL   Feb-08-09 06:40 PM   #57 
     - I have no problem with that. n/t  pnwmom   Feb-08-09 07:28 PM   #68 
  - I'm sorry you are just wrong, there are not hundreds of these for every defensive use of a gun.  Fire_Medic_Dave   Feb-08-09 07:39 PM   #74 
  - DRT  Fla_Democrat   Feb-08-09 06:08 PM   #40 
  - What an inspiring thread  tkmorris   Feb-08-09 06:56 PM   #59 
  - We pro-RKBA Dems represent the position of perhaps 70%+ of the electorate. Perhaps those who offend  jody   Feb-08-09 07:05 PM   #62 
     - Certainly. There's something to what you say  tkmorris   Feb-08-09 07:25 PM   #66 
        - Anti-gun zealots are like anti-choice zealots...  MicaelS   Feb-08-09 07:43 PM   #75 
        - except for one thing  iverglas   Feb-09-09 05:29 PM   #95 
           - No, the former group wishes it had the numbers it claims  tburnsten   Feb-09-09 05:43 PM   #97 
        - The strident fringe re RKBA make it a very useful divisive, polarizing issue for  jody   Feb-08-09 08:06 PM   #79 
  - Tulsa is getting as bad as Dallas  rainbow4321   Feb-08-09 08:16 PM   #83 
  - I don't know about Dallas...  NaturalHigh   Feb-09-09 02:42 PM   #91 
  - Same incident, different report: armed robber apparently did not just come in shooting.  Garbo 2004   Feb-08-09 08:22 PM   #84 
  - Tragic waste of life  slackmaster   Feb-09-09 09:02 AM   #89 
  - Kicked  Fire_Medic_Dave   Feb-26-09 08:37 PM   #102 
 

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