MajorChode
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Sun Jan-25-09 02:57 PM
Response to Reply #35 |
| 38. Poverty exists all over the world including all developed nations... |
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yet gun violence in the US rivals or exceeds many 3rd world countries. You also ignore the tens of thousands of gun related accidents each year, especially against children, and the enormous success of programs that reduce the availability of illicit guns.
So while gunnuts continue to chant their mantra that "guns don't kill people", the fact is that gun violence in the US is epidemic and quite a few other countries have figured out a better way to do things.
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| -In 2006, 13,470 people died in alcohol-impaired driving crashes. |
cliffordu |
Jan-25-09 01:24 PM |
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LOL love it |
Taverner |
Jan-25-09 01:25 PM |
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SammyWinstonJack |
Jan-25-09 01:27 PM |
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We have increased drunk driving penalties |
sandnsea |
Jan-25-09 01:27 PM |
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I know- the figure used to be 40 thousand a year..... |
cliffordu |
Jan-25-09 01:29 PM |
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It's not? You're kidding!! |
sandnsea |
Jan-25-09 01:49 PM |
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Gun addicts? Hmmm..... |
cliffordu |
Jan-25-09 01:50 PM |
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Absolutely. Gun Addicts. |
sandnsea |
Jan-25-09 01:55 PM |
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I don't have any guns. I could if I wanted to. That's kind of the point. |
cliffordu |
Jan-25-09 02:04 PM |
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Imagine sandnsea doesn't have anything else to say. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Jan-25-09 11:12 PM |
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Aside from a few facists in WWII, none of my guns have ever harmed anyone. |
AtheistCrusader |
Jan-27-09 09:17 PM |
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it's really the only possible conclusion |
iverglas |
Jan-29-09 04:25 PM |
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Yes, and the founder of MADD quit in disgust because she felt they went too far. |
tuckessee |
Jan-25-09 10:49 PM |
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Waiting for: you can have my car |
havocmom |
Jan-25-09 01:31 PM |
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I tossed my fireproof bloomers the other day and am now trying |
cliffordu |
Jan-25-09 01:35 PM |
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If we could increase that by 148,000 per month it would solve unemployment |
HereSince1628 |
Jan-25-09 01:32 PM |
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I'm with you. I think EVERYONE should drink and drive and carry automatic weapons... |
cliffordu |
Jan-25-09 01:36 PM |
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Exactly, while I'm in the bunker at my undisclosed location. |
HereSince1628 |
Jan-25-09 02:13 PM |
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while smoking non-filtered cigarettes and eating twinkies spread with lard. |
Hannah Bell |
Jan-25-09 11:06 PM |
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lol. Now we're describing my family...Drunk, heavily armed, driving and eating |
cliffordu |
Jan-26-09 01:05 AM |
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We need an organization to protect us legal car owners from |
old mark |
Jan-25-09 01:37 PM |
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now yer talkin!! |
cliffordu |
Jan-25-09 01:38 PM |
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May I propose that we ban cars that look 'scary fast'? |
petronius |
Jan-25-09 01:40 PM |
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That's right. Anything that looks military in nature: |
cliffordu |
Jan-25-09 01:42 PM |
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No need to ban them. Just write the law |
rrneck |
Jan-30-09 12:00 AM |
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"Handguns are made for killing. They ain't no good for nothing else" |
hfojvt |
Jan-25-09 01:42 PM |
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I'm surprised there aren't more killings. A couple hundred million guns say |
cliffordu |
Jan-25-09 01:49 PM |
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I agree |
Johonny |
Jan-25-09 02:26 PM |
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I've used firearms correctly for over thirty years and never killed anyone. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Jan-25-09 11:05 PM |
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Yep - I've been using them since the '50's without civilian casualty. |
cliffordu |
Jan-26-09 01:06 AM |
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Most guns must be defective... |
Statistical |
Jan-25-09 02:32 PM |
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many of them are used to kill non-human animals |
hfojvt |
Jan-25-09 03:47 PM |
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If quoting Lynyrd Skynyrd lyrics is the best you can do in this debate... |
Ghost in the Machine |
Jan-26-09 01:15 AM |
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Point being... |
varkam |
Jan-26-09 05:33 AM |
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Counterpoint being... |
Ghost in the Machine |
Jan-26-09 09:15 AM |
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That's not a counterpoint in that it has nothing to do with the line of argument... |
varkam |
Jan-26-09 10:53 AM |
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I believe that you are wrong... |
Ghost in the Machine |
Jan-26-09 11:57 AM |
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. |
varkam |
Jan-26-09 12:12 PM |
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... |
Ghost in the Machine |
Jan-26-09 12:40 PM |
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well...way back when I went to school... |
stillcool |
Jan-25-09 01:43 PM |
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You Gun Obsessives Lose Every Time When You Talk About Cars |
Paladin |
Jan-25-09 01:57 PM |
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Confusing hardware with malicious acts is meaningless. |
cliffordu |
Jan-25-09 02:06 PM |
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If we took away drivers licenses for about 5 years and threw |
barb162 |
Jan-25-09 02:16 PM |
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I don't want to ban automobiles but I do want to regulate them |
ayeshahaqqiqa |
Jan-25-09 02:18 PM |
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yep, exactly n/t |
prayin4rain |
Jan-25-09 02:20 PM |
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Yes, so let's license guns the same way. |
alarimer |
Jan-25-09 02:28 PM |
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Yep - I'm with you on both items. |
cliffordu |
Jan-25-09 02:29 PM |
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You broke the analogy.... |
Statistical |
Jan-25-09 02:36 PM |
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then I'll include that |
ayeshahaqqiqa |
Jan-25-09 02:58 PM |
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However as of today there is no requirement for vehicles.... |
Statistical |
Jan-25-09 03:09 PM |
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You missed my point |
ayeshahaqqiqa |
Jan-25-09 03:45 PM |
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watch out you don't trip on the elephant in the room |
iverglas |
Jan-29-09 04:39 PM |
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sadly, the analogy was already flawed |
iverglas |
Jan-29-09 04:34 PM |
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This is how I feel |
ayeshahaqqiqa |
Jan-25-09 02:55 PM |
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Licensing of both vehicles and drivers... |
SidDithers |
Jan-25-09 03:55 PM |
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Hmmm... |
CRF450 |
Jan-25-09 11:26 PM |
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Another ridiculous strawman from the gun lobby. |
JackDragna |
Jan-25-09 02:22 PM |
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Do you have any arguments against gun control that doesn't involve obfuscation? |
MajorChode |
Jan-25-09 02:24 PM |
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Nope. |
cliffordu |
Jan-25-09 02:27 PM |
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We need a lot of things... |
MajorChode |
Jan-25-09 02:32 PM |
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My argument needs no strengthening. |
cliffordu |
Jan-25-09 02:42 PM |
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Poverty exists all over the world including all developed nations... |
MajorChode |
Jan-25-09 02:57 PM |
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Mogadishu. |
cliffordu |
Jan-25-09 03:51 PM |
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So let's assume your nonsense is correct (which it isn't) |
MajorChode |
Jan-25-09 04:27 PM |
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Do tell about these enormously successful programs, with cites please. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Jan-25-09 11:07 PM |
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Am I your personal research service? |
MajorChode |
Jan-26-09 02:42 PM |
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So you have no proof of these enormously successful programs, got it thanks. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Jan-26-09 07:33 PM |
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Have you always had this much trouble with reading comprehension? |
MajorChode |
Jan-27-09 07:08 AM |
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People who offer facts and then can't back them up often rely on these tactics. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Jan-27-09 11:20 AM |
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Wingnuts are generally the ones who always demand "proof" but never provide any of their own |
MajorChode |
Jan-27-09 11:48 AM |
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What have I offered as fact that you would like me to prove? |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Jan-27-09 01:38 PM |
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Just the fact that your demands for "proof" are only on one side of the argument... |
MajorChode |
Jan-27-09 03:47 PM |
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Most of the pro 2nd Amendment people here are very good at citing our facts. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Jan-27-09 08:33 PM |
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so you've met our Dave |
iverglas |
Jan-30-09 01:43 AM |
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The US is the most unequal of all the developed countries. With one of the poorest |
Hannah Bell |
Jan-25-09 11:13 PM |
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So where's the direct association? |
MajorChode |
Jan-26-09 02:54 PM |
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I looked at the data... |
jeepnstein |
Jan-28-09 11:00 AM |
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I'm pretty sure that's what he just said. |
AtheistCrusader |
Jan-29-09 04:20 PM |
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So basically, |
jeepnstein |
Jan-29-09 05:23 PM |
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Well, your second sentence |
AtheistCrusader |
Jan-29-09 06:10 PM |
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nice try |
iverglas |
Jan-30-09 01:27 AM |
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Do tell about these enormously successful programs, don't even worry about the cites. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Jan-27-09 08:38 PM |
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then treat guns like cars |
dsc |
Jan-25-09 02:46 PM |
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People like me....... |
cliffordu |
Jan-25-09 03:53 PM |
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You are the one decrying gun control |
dsc |
Jan-25-09 03:59 PM |
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Good point. Where I live, it's easier to get a gun than a driver's license. In fact, |
Mike 03 |
Jan-25-09 03:54 PM |
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You can buy a gun from a licensed dealer easier than obtaining a drivers license? |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Jan-25-09 11:10 PM |
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I believe that would be unconstitutional. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Jan-25-09 11:08 PM |
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Do cars serve any other purpose in society than to kill people?...nt |
SidDithers |
Jan-25-09 03:54 PM |
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In the long run, no. |
cliffordu |
Jan-25-09 04:10 PM |
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Oh but the terrorists are much more deserving of our attention. Yea right! |
L0oniX |
Jan-25-09 03:59 PM |
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Actually, it's probably better just to ban drinking alcohol. nt |
old mark |
Jan-25-09 04:19 PM |
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That's right!!!! No one will EVER kill themselves driving SOBER!!!! |
cliffordu |
Jan-25-09 04:24 PM |
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In 2007, some 41,059 people were killed in highway crashes, 13,000 of which were alcohol related |
Ghost in the Machine |
Jan-25-09 04:27 PM |
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And 379,000 people died taking a crap. We should outlaw FECES, too.... |
cliffordu |
Jan-25-09 04:32 PM |
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Elvis has left the throne.... |
Ghost in the Machine |
Jan-25-09 10:38 PM |
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lol. Lenny Bruce, too.... |
cliffordu |
Jan-26-09 01:07 AM |
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And yet marijuana is illegal. Nt |
gmudem |
Jan-25-09 10:47 PM |
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Yep. Specially fully automatic fatties. |
cliffordu |
Jan-26-09 01:08 AM |
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Don't ban automobiles, ban alcohol. |
Thothmes |
Jan-26-09 05:29 AM |
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I fail to see the humour? |
Darth_Kitten |
Jan-26-09 07:57 AM |
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Yep I do. |
cliffordu |
Jan-26-09 08:20 AM |
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over 100 people drown in the bath each year and 70 die from burns...OUTLAW BATHS and SHOWERS |
NightWatcher |
Jan-26-09 08:03 AM |
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That's right!!!! |
cliffordu |
Jan-26-09 08:21 AM |
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Fucking car nuts. nt |
anonymous171 |
Jan-26-09 09:16 AM |
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Are two or more Strawmen allowed in the Carpool Lane? |
chollybocker |
Jan-26-09 07:40 PM |
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Why not start with banning bombs and mines ..then worry about cars. |
L0oniX |
Jan-26-09 07:44 PM |
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now you're talking. |
cliffordu |
Jan-27-09 10:29 AM |
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If they were writing the Constitution today... |
ieoeja |
Jan-27-09 11:43 AM |
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