Fire_Medic_Dave
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Sun Jan-25-09 08:39 PM
Response to Reply #81 |
| 87. I'm appalled by the blatant your use of Freeper-esque terms like 'Gun nut' in the DU forums. |
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Such labeling is primarily used to dismiss reasonable public policy debate through name calling. So it's okay for you to dismiss reasonable public policy debate through name calling but not for anyone else. Thanks for your example of intellectual honesty, or was the just utter hypocrisy?
David
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| -So what is so common sense about an Assault Weapons ban? |
bossy22 |
Jan-24-09 10:25 PM |
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Public safety. |
geckosfeet |
Jan-24-09 10:29 PM |
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How does banning the least used weapon type in crimes help public safety. |
davepc |
Jan-24-09 10:32 PM |
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So they don't become the most used types |
Oregone |
Jan-24-09 10:49 PM |
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They never would be. |
TheWraith |
Jan-25-09 01:14 AM |
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I bet most would actually pick the AR-15 |
tburnsten |
Jan-25-09 08:00 AM |
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Many millions out there, but after all these years they still aren't "most used." (nt) |
SteveM |
Jan-26-09 05:33 PM |
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i would prefer a well thought out arguement |
bossy22 |
Jan-24-09 10:32 PM |
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I don't think so. My right to life liberty and happiness is just as important |
geckosfeet |
Jan-24-09 10:35 PM |
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a couple of things |
bossy22 |
Jan-24-09 10:38 PM |
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It's not an angle. It's a perception. A assault rifle was designed as a military |
geckosfeet |
Jan-24-09 10:48 PM |
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Partially true |
bossy22 |
Jan-24-09 10:51 PM |
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deleted (replied to incorrect post) |
spin |
Jan-25-09 12:35 AM |
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I don't condone legislating strictly based on fear |
tburnsten |
Jan-25-09 08:02 AM |
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Of course not. I don't think anyone does. But you can't deny it happens. |
geckosfeet |
Jan-25-09 06:55 PM |
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Most firearms in use today, including bolt- and lever-action rifles, were designed as military |
slackmaster |
Jan-25-09 10:13 AM |
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They have been adapted for general use. No full auto. |
geckosfeet |
Jan-25-09 06:58 PM |
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The "assault weapons" ban had nothing to do with full auto |
slackmaster |
Jan-26-09 10:02 AM |
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Yes. I am sure that you are right. I am going out to get some women sex slaves now. |
geckosfeet |
Jan-26-09 09:38 PM |
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the word "assault" is a descriptive, but meaningless term |
tburnsten |
Jan-26-09 09:48 PM |
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Good luck with that |
slackmaster |
Jan-27-09 04:45 PM |
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There were three double-homicide shootings yesterday |
krispos42 |
Jan-25-09 10:49 AM |
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...so, the public needs assault weapons... Why? |
NRaleighLiberal |
Jan-24-09 10:32 PM |
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i asked the question |
bossy22 |
Jan-24-09 10:33 PM |
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I am just being a bit sarcastic, since I am strongly anti-gun. |
NRaleighLiberal |
Jan-24-09 10:46 PM |
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What does need have to do with it? |
tburnsten |
Jan-25-09 08:08 AM |
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in order to control the masses. |
Tuesday Afternoon |
Jan-24-09 10:36 PM |
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how about the slaughtering of people with these guns in s.f? |
xchrom |
Jan-24-09 10:37 PM |
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how about the slaughtering |
bossy22 |
Jan-24-09 10:40 PM |
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your version of a poor argument is not mine -- |
xchrom |
Jan-24-09 10:44 PM |
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You don't want to live around |
Abq_Sarah |
Jan-25-09 06:24 AM |
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Oh, the irony |
The Rubicon |
Jan-25-09 09:32 AM |
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that ban wasn't in place when that slaughter happend. |
xchrom |
Jan-25-09 09:58 AM |
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the S.F. |
bossy22 |
Jan-25-09 10:37 AM |
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Ummmm..... |
The Rubicon |
Jan-25-09 11:40 AM |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Jan-26-09 12:01 AM |
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wrong event. nt |
xchrom |
Jan-26-09 12:26 AM |
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Nah...really? |
The Rubicon |
Jan-26-09 09:02 AM |
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Flame throwers are not guns, they are agricultural tools |
tburnsten |
Jan-25-09 08:10 AM |
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Screw the AWB. I want those restrictions on howitzers and tanks lifted. n/t |
Mojambo |
Jan-24-09 10:40 PM |
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so start another post about that |
bossy22 |
Jan-24-09 10:41 PM |
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ohh and btw |
bossy22 |
Jan-24-09 10:44 PM |
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Suweeeet. Hunting season is going to be awesome!1! n/t |
Mojambo |
Jan-24-09 10:45 PM |
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you would have to hunt on private property |
bossy22 |
Jan-24-09 10:47 PM |
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Why must the damned gubmint make it so hard for me to up my animal slaughter ratio! |
Mojambo |
Jan-24-09 10:50 PM |
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Jan-26-09 05:41 PM |
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im starting to think this might be a lost cause |
bossy22 |
Jan-24-09 10:41 PM |
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Some issues just cross politics - guns and smoking in particular. Tough territory to wade into! |
NRaleighLiberal |
Jan-24-09 10:48 PM |
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true |
bossy22 |
Jan-24-09 10:52 PM |
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Not that so much is that it incites deep emotions - and the last 8 years have |
NRaleighLiberal |
Jan-24-09 10:58 PM |
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you have a point |
bossy22 |
Jan-24-09 11:00 PM |
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Defining the argument |
raimius |
Jan-24-09 11:22 PM |
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Please define assult weapon? |
Duckhunter935 |
Jan-24-09 11:26 PM |
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Not used for hunting....nt |
Captain Hilts |
Jan-24-09 11:46 PM |
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whats suitable for hunting |
bossy22 |
Jan-24-09 11:49 PM |
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They are fantastic hunting rifles |
Taitertots |
Jan-25-09 12:09 AM |
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And your statement would have what to do with the OP? |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Jan-25-09 04:50 AM |
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Oh how wrong you are, please read this ad |
tburnsten |
Jan-25-09 08:29 AM |
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I believe I can explain why so many people are for a assault weapons ban... |
spin |
Jan-25-09 12:36 AM |
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Your rights under the second, like ANY rights are not unlimited |
whoneedstickets |
Jan-25-09 12:45 AM |
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Someone could drive a truck into a crowded pedestrian mall and kill lots of people in seconds. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Jan-25-09 05:25 AM |
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Spurious arguments. People choose to swim. People choose to drive. |
geckosfeet |
Jan-25-09 07:49 AM |
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Really? |
The Rubicon |
Jan-25-09 10:08 AM |
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I choose to drive. I choose to swim. I know the dangers. So do you. |
geckosfeet |
Jan-25-09 10:34 AM |
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Couldn't the same be said of people who choose to live in the United States? |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Jan-26-09 07:52 PM |
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we are not talking about assault rifles here |
bossy22 |
Jan-25-09 10:29 AM |
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No. You are talking about semi-automatic long guns. |
geckosfeet |
Jan-25-09 10:35 AM |
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Just to be sure |
pipoman |
Jan-25-09 08:51 PM |
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Do you realize the AWB has nothing to do with automatic weapons? |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Jan-26-09 07:54 PM |
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They are legitimate arguments when the basis for the ban is potential. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Jan-25-09 08:35 PM |
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I'm sure BenEzra has more details, but many folks use large-capacity mags... |
SteveM |
Jan-26-09 05:57 PM |
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Did you actually engage in any cognition before posting... |
whoneedstickets |
Jan-25-09 02:26 PM |
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sorry...you are incorrect |
bossy22 |
Jan-25-09 03:24 PM |
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What two episodes of mass murder... |
whoneedstickets |
Jan-25-09 04:10 PM |
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your claim is incorrect |
bossy22 |
Jan-25-09 04:46 PM |
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Your own quote!... |
whoneedstickets |
Jan-25-09 05:03 PM |
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So you think gun grabber is offensive but gun nut is not, pot meet kettle. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Jan-25-09 08:25 PM |
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I'm appalled by the blatant your use of Freeper-esque terms like 'Gun nut' in the DU forums. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Jan-25-09 08:39 PM |
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Amazing you keyed in on those words and ignored the rest of the post... |
whoneedstickets |
Jan-26-09 12:29 PM |
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Not for nothing, but your use of the term was glaringly obvious after the 'gun grabber' rant. nt |
jmg257 |
Jan-26-09 06:44 PM |
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Just pointing out the hypocrisy. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Jan-26-09 07:35 PM |
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This post is utterly insane |
tburnsten |
Jan-26-09 02:45 PM |
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Speaking as a cop... |
57_TomCat |
Jan-26-09 03:19 PM |
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Who are you to decide what weapon I use to defend my home? |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Jan-26-09 07:37 PM |
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Lets put it on a more level field here. |
57_TomCat |
Jan-26-09 03:34 PM |
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The AR-15 is about the most accurate service rifle ever adopted |
tburnsten |
Jan-25-09 08:41 AM |
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Disagree on AR-15 as a deer rifle.. |
whoneedstickets |
Jan-25-09 10:41 AM |
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So an AR-15 in a caliber other than the original can't be used either? |
tburnsten |
Jan-26-09 09:36 AM |
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While .223 isn't a good deer hunting round.... |
Statistical |
Jan-26-09 10:19 AM |
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Accurate semi-auto .308s, .260 Rems, .243s can be had on the AR 15 platform ... |
SteveM |
Jan-26-09 06:08 PM |
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You can get an AR variant in 6.8mm Remington, .243, .308, .50 Beowulf, or .300 RSAUM... |
benEzra |
Jan-28-09 11:16 AM |
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Also, AR-15 not the most accurate.... |
whoneedstickets |
Jan-25-09 02:34 PM |
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true |
bossy22 |
Jan-25-09 04:50 PM |
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Those aren't the basic service rifle though |
tburnsten |
Jan-26-09 09:43 AM |
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Sorry, not true. |
57_TomCat |
Jan-26-09 09:47 PM |
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Thanks for the vote of confidence |
tburnsten |
Jan-26-09 09:52 PM |
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Prove it |
The Rubicon |
Jan-25-09 10:02 AM |
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Legislation making possession or sale of magazines of larger than 10 rounds |
whoneedstickets |
Jan-25-09 02:08 PM |
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So.... |
The Rubicon |
Jan-25-09 02:50 PM |
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hmmm...... |
bossy22 |
Jan-25-09 03:13 PM |
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Its great to hear you have an inside scoop on the SC... |
whoneedstickets |
Jan-25-09 04:15 PM |
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well we know |
bossy22 |
Jan-25-09 04:23 PM |
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Which the VT shooter got around by having two handguns on him. |
friendly_iconoclast |
Jan-25-09 11:28 PM |
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That would not be possible to enforce |
slackmaster |
Jan-26-09 10:32 AM |
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not quite.... |
one-eyed fat man |
Jan-27-09 10:03 AM |
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Thank you for the single most intelligent "anti" post here, possibly ever |
Malidictus Maximus |
Jan-25-09 10:21 AM |
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Just cherry picking here but... |
57_TomCat |
Jan-26-09 03:06 PM |
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Lots to work with here. |
57_TomCat |
Jan-26-09 04:25 PM |
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Jan-25-09 04:53 AM |
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Well, you know what they say |
depakid |
Jan-25-09 05:32 AM |
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He was asking people who support the legislation, sometimes you have to put it on their level. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Jan-25-09 05:49 AM |
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and how is my question |
bossy22 |
Jan-25-09 10:31 AM |
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Nice Freeper Term... Grabber |
whoneedstickets |
Jan-25-09 02:28 PM |
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the question is what is consdered |
bossy22 |
Jan-25-09 03:07 PM |
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Gun grabber is our counter to gun nut. Once you've been here a while you'll learn. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Jan-25-09 08:21 PM |
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It is a very useful piece of legislation |
Howzit |
Jan-25-09 01:21 PM |
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More videos |
rangersmith82 |
Jan-25-09 01:57 PM |
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the AWB didnt stop the Hollywood shootout |
rangersmith82 |
Jan-25-09 02:04 PM |
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Read the June 2004 Report |
russ1943 |
Jan-25-09 02:30 PM |
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the assault pistol |
bossy22 |
Jan-25-09 03:12 PM |
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So you want to ban rifles which are both in 1. common legal use and 2. rarely used in crimes. Why? |
friendly_iconoclast |
Jan-25-09 11:14 PM |
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"assault pistols" |
raimius |
Jan-26-09 09:36 AM |
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Some pictures of "assault pistols" (for informational purposes) |
spin |
Jan-28-09 11:31 AM |
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The decline in sale of so-called "assault pistols" had little to do with the Feinstein non-ban, |
benEzra |
Jan-28-09 10:59 AM |
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