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gorfle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-09 12:43 PM
Response to Reply #118
139. No.
Edited on Wed Jan-14-09 12:44 PM by gorfle
If you have something to say regarding "impunity", then I'll leave the work for you, thanks.

I wouldn't want to infer something and then get in trouble for saying things you didn't say, after all.
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  -Why the double standard when it comes to firearms? Fire_Medic_Dave  Jan-11-09 06:14 PM   #0 
  - Show me a gun owner falsely arrestedby the police  Chulanowa   Jan-11-09 06:16 PM   #1 
  - The man arrested in Denver during the Democratic National Convention comes to mind.  Fire_Medic_Dave   Jan-11-09 06:19 PM   #3 
  - Here's one of the posts.  Fire_Medic_Dave   Jan-11-09 06:22 PM   #4 
  - Um... that guy broke the law. I'm not cheering about it, but it says right in the news report  Political Heretic   Jan-11-09 06:26 PM   #6 
     - All charges were dropped, he joined DU and he still hadn't gotten his guns back last I heard.  Fire_Medic_Dave   Jan-11-09 06:42 PM   #14 
     - he what?  iverglas   Jan-11-09 06:53 PM   #20 
        - I took him at his word.  Fire_Medic_Dave   Jan-12-09 03:19 PM   #74 
     - He didn't break any laws, and wasn't carrying concealed  tburnsten   Jan-12-09 07:05 AM   #31 
  - Unregistered guns??  virginia mountainman   Jan-11-09 06:30 PM   #9 
  - I sorta lean towards gun registration myself.  Citizen Number 9   Jan-11-09 08:55 PM   #26 
     - If owning a gun creates a signicant risk of a person causing actionable harm...  slackmaster   Jan-12-09 02:27 AM   #30 
     - maybe  iverglas   Jan-12-09 12:04 PM   #40 
        - And why not?  gorfle   Jan-13-09 07:03 PM   #111 
           - maybe  iverglas   Jan-13-09 07:04 PM   #112 
              - Of course.  gorfle   Jan-13-09 08:36 PM   #115 
              - You should know about intervening causes...  DavidMS   Jan-25-09 08:31 AM   #180 
     - Modern gun laws are based on dejure racist gun laws...  SteveM   Jan-13-09 10:58 AM   #97 
     - just as modern sexual assault laws are based on de jure misogynist sexual assault laws  iverglas   Jan-13-09 04:44 PM   #105 
     - No registration, not sure about insurance.  gorfle   Jan-13-09 07:02 PM   #110 
  - Colorado does not have gun registration  tburnsten   Jan-12-09 07:07 AM   #32 
  - Yes, yes, and yes (nt)  Posteritatis   Jan-11-09 06:16 PM   #2 
  - Right wingers have built a "shrine" at Ruby Ridge, Waco, etc.  Hoyt   Jan-11-09 06:25 PM   #5 
  - Terrorists the government paid over 3 million dollars because the govt did nothing wrong huh.  Fire_Medic_Dave   Jan-15-09 01:44 AM   #141 
  - I agree completely Fire_Medic_Dave  RamboLiberal   Jan-11-09 06:29 PM   #7 
  - Because of prejudice against guns I would suppose  The Straight Story   Jan-11-09 06:29 PM   #8 
  - Yes. If you are going to rant against illegal police actions, rant against them all.  uppityperson   Jan-11-09 06:34 PM   #10 
  - The anti-RKBA folks and the anti-cop folks are usually one in the same. Which makes no sense when...  Double_Talk_Express   Jan-11-09 06:37 PM   #11 
  - What a load!! Most cops want to see guns taken off the streets and out of our lives. nt  cabluedem   Jan-25-09 12:45 AM   #178 
     - Don't know where you got your info, but most cops  old mark   Jan-25-09 07:47 AM   #179 
  - One step at a time - how about if we skip your stated but unproven assumption  gristy   Jan-11-09 06:38 PM   #12 
  - As I said.  Fire_Medic_Dave   Jan-11-09 06:44 PM   #15 
  - The fact that your OP was banished to DU's Guns forum supports your concern. n/t  jody   Jan-11-09 06:39 PM   #13 
  - Why was "LAX Cops catch another 'Moran' with 2 unloaded shotguns in SUV" not  jody   Jan-11-09 06:45 PM   #16 
  - That is the one I meant, that topic and poster within  uppityperson   Jan-11-09 06:50 PM   #19 
     - you're making a bunch of noise  iverglas   Jan-11-09 06:57 PM   #21 
     - I agree, I posted poorly and have asked for it to be deleted.  uppityperson   Jan-11-09 07:09 PM   #24 
     - Understand, it is curious that some DUers proclaim their support for all inalienable rights except  jody   Jan-11-09 07:05 PM   #22 
        - ... the right not to be deprived of life without due process  iverglas   Jan-11-09 07:06 PM   #23 
           - iverglas, what does that post have to do with this?  bertman   Jan-12-09 11:08 AM   #33 
              - well, if you follow the dots  iverglas   Jan-12-09 11:11 AM   #34 
                 - So, are you saying that owning a gun means that someone is going to be killed--  bertman   Jan-12-09 11:36 AM   #36 
                    - I am saying  iverglas   Jan-12-09 11:52 AM   #37 
                       - Obviously the person committing a robbery was going to give everyone "due process".  Double_Talk_Express   Jan-12-09 11:54 AM   #38 
                       - it's a hopeless task  iverglas   Jan-12-09 12:02 PM   #39 
                          - What is your whole argument then? You speak about "due process" as if it has something to do....  Double_Talk_Express   Jan-12-09 12:08 PM   #41 
                             - educate yourself  iverglas   Jan-12-09 12:28 PM   #44 
                             - read the constitution...not the Brady version of it.  Double_Talk_Express   Jan-12-09 12:36 PM   #47 
                                - your Constitution, for your edification  iverglas   Jan-12-09 12:41 PM   #48 
                                   - Deleted message  Name removed   Jan-12-09 12:59 PM   #53 
                                   - you, "sir"  iverglas   Jan-12-09 01:00 PM   #54 
                                   - Historical quotes..  X_Digger   Jan-12-09 02:52 PM   #71 
                                   - seems I don't give a shit  iverglas   Jan-12-09 02:57 PM   #72 
                                      - If you're so dismissive..  X_Digger   Jan-12-09 05:29 PM   #78 
                                      - Deleted message  Name removed   Jan-12-09 06:06 PM   #80 
                                      - such sad ignorance  iverglas   Jan-12-09 06:30 PM   #82 
                                      - lordy  iverglas   Jan-12-09 06:29 PM   #81 
                                      - "slave-owning, propertied-class white guys"  Raskolnik   Jan-14-09 11:29 AM   #133 
                                   - Errmmm...  beevul   Jan-13-09 01:58 AM   #86 
                                      - did you have a point?  iverglas   Jan-13-09 07:15 AM   #93 
                                         - Deleted message  Name removed   Jan-13-09 11:04 AM   #98 
                                         - Yeah. the point was to ask you a question. Care to answer it?  beevul   Jan-14-09 01:01 AM   #128 
                             - If I may... (if not, or I am wrong - I apologize!). Iverglas refers to the fact  jmg257   Jan-12-09 12:42 PM   #49 
                                - so if that person has the intent to deprive you of life with due process, that's okay?  Double_Talk_Express   Jan-12-09 12:56 PM   #52 
                                - so you beat your dog twice daily?  iverglas   Jan-12-09 01:02 PM   #56 
                                - You can't answer the question.  Double_Talk_Express   Jan-12-09 01:04 PM   #58 
                                   - evidently, neither can you  iverglas   Jan-12-09 01:05 PM   #60 
                                      - I don't have a dog.  Double_Talk_Express   Jan-12-09 01:05 PM   #61 
                                - Nope - not Ok at all. Not with me anyway, and not with society. Which is why his death  jmg257   Jan-12-09 01:03 PM   #57 
                                - Now, one might argue that the amendment being discussed  jmg257   Jan-12-09 01:20 PM   #64 
                                   - The laws are against murder and manslaughter, not homicide  tburnsten   Jan-14-09 06:23 AM   #129 
                                      - Which laws? Where? In the state I live in, there are certainly laws against homicide...  jmg257   Jan-14-09 11:10 AM   #132 
                                         - I forgot about negligent homicide  tburnsten   Jan-14-09 01:57 PM   #140 
                                            - you forgot about murder and manslaughter too  iverglas   Jan-18-09 02:16 PM   #161 
                                            - oh iverglas, you are just nitpicking ... words don't really MEAN anything specific!  Scout   Jan-19-09 10:37 AM   #165 
                                - in a nutshell  iverglas   Jan-12-09 01:01 PM   #55 
                       - The right to not be deprived of life without due process goes both ways  tburnsten   Jan-12-09 12:46 PM   #50 
                       - It's almost not worth it to bother with iverglas - s/he is just so smug and sees everything in B/W  Double_Talk_Express   Jan-12-09 12:53 PM   #51 
                       - "why should you just go along with it?"  iverglas   Jan-12-09 01:04 PM   #59 
                          - obviously you're going to continue to see everything in black-and-white  Double_Talk_Express   Jan-12-09 01:10 PM   #63 
                          - Nobody is allowed to kill others "with impunity"  tburnsten   Jan-12-09 01:21 PM   #66 
                          - well, we could play this circle game indefinitely  iverglas   Jan-12-09 01:41 PM   #67 
                             - We can play it indefinitely  tburnsten   Jan-12-09 01:50 PM   #69 
                                - what the fuck is your problem?  iverglas   Jan-12-09 03:36 PM   #76 
                                   - So you have only been posting about hypothetical situations?  tburnsten   Jan-13-09 06:40 AM   #91 
                          - Nah,  gorfle   Jan-13-09 08:22 PM   #114 
                             - do you need to look up "impunity" now?  iverglas   Jan-13-09 09:01 PM   #118 
                                - No.  gorfle   Jan-14-09 12:43 PM   #139 
                       - On the Bill of Rights  gorfle   Jan-13-09 08:19 PM   #113 
                          - one does tire  iverglas   Jan-13-09 09:00 PM   #117 
                          - I'm having a pretty hard time figuring out what you are attempting to communicate to us  tburnsten   Jan-13-09 09:05 PM   #119 
                          - I feel  iverglas   Jan-13-09 09:08 PM   #120 
                             - What he is on about.  gorfle   Jan-14-09 12:35 PM   #136 
                                - Thank you for distilling it  tburnsten   Jan-16-09 10:46 AM   #150 
                          - Inalienable.  gorfle   Jan-14-09 12:27 PM   #135 
                          - You're wasting your time, Gorfle.  beevul   Jan-13-09 11:01 PM   #125 
                          - Bwhahahahah!  gorfle   Jan-14-09 12:41 PM   #137 
                          - You should stick to Canadian law, because your knowledge of the U.S. Constitution is a bit lacking  Raskolnik   Jan-14-09 10:47 AM   #131 
                             - Well and simply put.  gorfle   Jan-14-09 12:42 PM   #138 
                             - at least I'm not dishonest  iverglas   Jan-16-09 01:28 PM   #154 
  - Very interesting it seems a suitable topic for General Discussion.  Fire_Medic_Dave   Jan-11-09 06:46 PM   #17 
     - And I don't argue with mods either but the unequal treatment is interesting. n/t  jody   Jan-11-09 06:48 PM   #18 
  - Malum in se  Joe Steel   Jan-11-09 08:42 PM   #25 
  - Guns are not inherently evil.  rrneck   Jan-11-09 10:45 PM   #27 
  - Objects do not have the attribute of good/evil.  ManiacJoe   Jan-12-09 12:43 AM   #28 
  - It's very easy to prove that guns are not inherently evil  slackmaster   Jan-12-09 02:25 AM   #29 
  - Guns are designed for killing.  Joe Steel   Jan-12-09 12:19 PM   #43 
     - IF the only intent of some "gun users" was to kill, you may be right. I really do not know too many  jmg257   Jan-12-09 12:30 PM   #45 
     - A lot of gun users want to keep people from killing them.  Double_Talk_Express   Jan-12-09 01:08 PM   #62 
        - Surely, as I am 1. And then owning guns that allow one to do so efficiently and safely  jmg257   Jan-12-09 01:48 PM   #68 
     - Killing is not inherently evil  slackmaster   Jan-12-09 01:20 PM   #65 
     - I have no intent or desire to kill anyone or anything with my firearms.  Fire_Medic_Dave   Jan-12-09 03:23 PM   #75 
     - The 'intent' of a gun..  X_Digger   Jan-12-09 05:46 PM   #79 
     - ooh scary evil guns.  Fire_Medic_Dave   Jan-13-09 01:12 AM   #85 
  - I do think  iverglas   Jan-12-09 11:12 AM   #35 
  - What does that mean?  Joe Steel   Jan-12-09 12:15 PM   #42 
     - I'm sorry, but  iverglas   Jan-12-09 12:31 PM   #46 
        - We have to have some balance.  Joe Steel   Jan-12-09 02:41 PM   #70 
           - Two arguments you bring up.  raimius   Jan-12-09 02:57 PM   #73 
           - ah  iverglas   Jan-12-09 03:38 PM   #77 
              - What does it all mean?  Joe Steel   Jan-13-09 06:35 AM   #90 
                 - ah, words  iverglas   Jan-13-09 04:58 PM   #106 
                    - It's not.  Joe Steel   Jan-13-09 06:23 PM   #109 
                       - You see what's funny is...  Fire_Medic_Dave   Jan-15-09 02:26 AM   #142 
                          - I'm glad I could prove your point wrong.  Joe Steel   Jan-15-09 06:48 AM   #143 
                             - When you are the only person that agrees with you, you might want to rethink things.  Fire_Medic_Dave   Jan-15-09 03:53 PM   #144 
                             - What makes you think no one agrees with me?  Joe Steel   Jan-15-09 05:07 PM   #145 
                                - Guns aren't any more evil than knives or cars.  Fire_Medic_Dave   Jan-15-09 08:23 PM   #146 
                                - Did you see my comment...  Joe Steel   Jan-16-09 10:19 AM   #149 
                                   - So you think all medications are poison?  Fire_Medic_Dave   Jan-16-09 04:13 PM   #157 
                                      - That's what the doctor said.  Joe Steel   Jan-16-09 04:20 PM   #158 
                                         - Do you agree?  Fire_Medic_Dave   Jan-16-09 04:26 PM   #159 
                                         - Again do you agree with your doctor friend?  Fire_Medic_Dave   Jan-18-09 01:09 AM   #160 
                                         - Once more, do you agree with your doctor friends assertion that all medications are poison?  Fire_Medic_Dave   Jan-19-09 12:25 AM   #162 
                                            - Yes. What's the problem?  Joe Steel   Jan-19-09 11:26 AM   #167 
                                            - I just wanted to make sure.  Fire_Medic_Dave   Jan-19-09 04:38 PM   #168 
                                - Well for one thing  tburnsten   Jan-16-09 11:08 AM   #152 
                             - You are a lark  tburnsten   Jan-16-09 11:08 AM   #151 
                                - I couldn't...  Joe Steel   Jan-16-09 11:16 AM   #153 
                                   - Thank you for your dedication and commitment  tburnsten   Jan-16-09 02:10 PM   #156 
  - Inherently evil  Joe Steel   Jan-13-09 06:46 AM   #92 
     - Guns, like all other objects, do not have the ability  ManiacJoe   Jan-13-09 01:44 PM   #99 
     - Physical evil includes all that causes harm to man...  Joe Steel   Jan-13-09 03:26 PM   #100 
        - Unfortunate to have to, but let's read that again..  jmg257   Jan-13-09 03:49 PM   #101 
        - You won't get an answer since you just destroyed his argument.  Fire_Medic_Dave   Jan-15-09 08:28 PM   #148 
        - That would be a rather abnormal definition.  ManiacJoe   Jan-13-09 04:09 PM   #104 
        - yeah, kinda like the *normal* definition of "righteous"  iverglas   Jan-13-09 05:02 PM   #108 
        - such fondness for archaic language hereabouts  iverglas   Jan-13-09 05:01 PM   #107 
        - So you see the evil in the gun.  Joe Steel   Jan-14-09 07:24 AM   #130 
           - No, I don't, so please don't say I do  iverglas   Jan-16-09 01:32 PM   #155 
              - Are you denying the evidence of your own eyes?  Joe Steel   Jan-19-09 09:47 AM   #163 
                 - one last, er, shot  iverglas   Jan-19-09 11:24 AM   #166 
                    - Nicely stated Iverlgas, I believe even my 3 year old nephew could understand that.  Fire_Medic_Dave   Jan-19-09 04:50 PM   #169 
                    - so from now on  iverglas   Jan-19-09 05:55 PM   #170 
                       - Unlikely.  Fire_Medic_Dave   Jan-19-09 06:08 PM   #171 
                    - Your logic is flawed.  Joe Steel   Jan-22-09 07:09 AM   #172 
                       - What If...  DrCory   Jan-22-09 02:10 PM   #173 
                       - You've admitted that guns have some beneficial uses.  Fire_Medic_Dave   Jan-22-09 03:31 PM   #174 
        - Do you think medicine is evil?  Fire_Medic_Dave   Jan-15-09 08:26 PM   #147 
           - Good point.  Joe Steel   Jan-19-09 09:49 AM   #164 
              - But you think all medications are poison.  Fire_Medic_Dave   Jan-22-09 03:34 PM   #175 
                 - So?  Joe Steel   Jan-22-09 04:50 PM   #176 
                    - Poison-A substance that causes injury, illness, or death, especially by chemical means.  Fire_Medic_Dave   Jan-22-09 07:24 PM   #177 
     - Seriously?  X_Digger   Jan-13-09 03:51 PM   #102 
  - Re: Shouldn't we be consistent in our support of our Constitutional Amendments?  fingrpik   Jan-12-09 11:23 PM   #83 
  - If you didn't hear outrage about those things on this forum it is because you ignored it.  Fire_Medic_Dave   Jan-13-09 01:06 AM   #84 
     - No..  fingrpik   Jan-13-09 02:37 AM   #87 
        - This is the Guns forum, I would expect topics started about the 1st Amendment would be moved.  Fire_Medic_Dave   Jan-13-09 06:30 AM   #89 
        - Uh Huh. Gun Owners...  fingrpik   Jan-13-09 08:59 AM   #94 
           - Who said Dems lost in 2000 and 2004 because of guns?  Fire_Medic_Dave   Jan-13-09 04:08 PM   #103 
              - You Keep Asking The Same Question.  fingrpik   Jan-13-09 08:39 PM   #116 
                 - Are you saying that guns never play an issue in elections?  Fire_Medic_Dave   Jan-13-09 10:10 PM   #121 
                 - this would be funny  iverglas   Jan-13-09 10:24 PM   #123 
                    - I don't think it's very polite of you to call fingrpik dumb.  Fire_Medic_Dave   Jan-13-09 10:28 PM   #124 
                       - I'll bet  iverglas   Jan-13-09 11:06 PM   #126 
                          - Very nice. That's good stuff Iverglas. I almost woke my wife up laughing.  Fire_Medic_Dave   Jan-13-09 11:10 PM   #127 
                 - So you just like to bitch about guns?  Fire_Medic_Dave   Jan-13-09 10:18 PM   #122 
        - "point me to a single OP here that has addressed the erosion of any freedom other than RKBA"  Raskolnik   Jan-14-09 12:15 PM   #134 
  - Kudos To Double_Talk_Express!!  fingrpik   Jan-13-09 03:08 AM   #88 
     - I'd like to ...  iverglas   Jan-13-09 09:06 AM   #95 
        - Yeah, But Comment #11 Is Still There  fingrpik   Jan-13-09 09:23 AM   #96 
 

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