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Tue Jan-13-09 11:06 PM
Response to Reply #124 |
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that was a joke. See, I'm catching on. Everything you've said here is a joke ...
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| -Why the double standard when it comes to firearms? |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Jan-11-09 06:14 PM |
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Show me a gun owner falsely arrestedby the police |
Chulanowa |
Jan-11-09 06:16 PM |
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The man arrested in Denver during the Democratic National Convention comes to mind. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Jan-11-09 06:19 PM |
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Here's one of the posts. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Jan-11-09 06:22 PM |
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Um... that guy broke the law. I'm not cheering about it, but it says right in the news report |
Political Heretic |
Jan-11-09 06:26 PM |
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All charges were dropped, he joined DU and he still hadn't gotten his guns back last I heard. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Jan-11-09 06:42 PM |
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he what? |
iverglas |
Jan-11-09 06:53 PM |
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I took him at his word. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Jan-12-09 03:19 PM |
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He didn't break any laws, and wasn't carrying concealed |
tburnsten |
Jan-12-09 07:05 AM |
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Unregistered guns?? |
virginia mountainman |
Jan-11-09 06:30 PM |
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I sorta lean towards gun registration myself. |
Citizen Number 9 |
Jan-11-09 08:55 PM |
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If owning a gun creates a signicant risk of a person causing actionable harm... |
slackmaster |
Jan-12-09 02:27 AM |
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maybe |
iverglas |
Jan-12-09 12:04 PM |
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And why not? |
gorfle |
Jan-13-09 07:03 PM |
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maybe |
iverglas |
Jan-13-09 07:04 PM |
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Of course. |
gorfle |
Jan-13-09 08:36 PM |
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You should know about intervening causes... |
DavidMS |
Jan-25-09 08:31 AM |
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Modern gun laws are based on dejure racist gun laws... |
SteveM |
Jan-13-09 10:58 AM |
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just as modern sexual assault laws are based on de jure misogynist sexual assault laws |
iverglas |
Jan-13-09 04:44 PM |
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No registration, not sure about insurance. |
gorfle |
Jan-13-09 07:02 PM |
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Colorado does not have gun registration |
tburnsten |
Jan-12-09 07:07 AM |
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Yes, yes, and yes (nt) |
Posteritatis |
Jan-11-09 06:16 PM |
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Right wingers have built a "shrine" at Ruby Ridge, Waco, etc. |
Hoyt |
Jan-11-09 06:25 PM |
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Terrorists the government paid over 3 million dollars because the govt did nothing wrong huh. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Jan-15-09 01:44 AM |
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I agree completely Fire_Medic_Dave |
RamboLiberal |
Jan-11-09 06:29 PM |
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Because of prejudice against guns I would suppose |
The Straight Story |
Jan-11-09 06:29 PM |
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Yes. If you are going to rant against illegal police actions, rant against them all. |
uppityperson |
Jan-11-09 06:34 PM |
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The anti-RKBA folks and the anti-cop folks are usually one in the same. Which makes no sense when... |
Double_Talk_Express |
Jan-11-09 06:37 PM |
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What a load!! Most cops want to see guns taken off the streets and out of our lives. nt |
cabluedem |
Jan-25-09 12:45 AM |
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Don't know where you got your info, but most cops |
old mark |
Jan-25-09 07:47 AM |
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One step at a time - how about if we skip your stated but unproven assumption |
gristy |
Jan-11-09 06:38 PM |
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As I said. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Jan-11-09 06:44 PM |
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The fact that your OP was banished to DU's Guns forum supports your concern. n/t |
jody |
Jan-11-09 06:39 PM |
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Why was "LAX Cops catch another 'Moran' with 2 unloaded shotguns in SUV" not |
jody |
Jan-11-09 06:45 PM |
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That is the one I meant, that topic and poster within |
uppityperson |
Jan-11-09 06:50 PM |
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you're making a bunch of noise |
iverglas |
Jan-11-09 06:57 PM |
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I agree, I posted poorly and have asked for it to be deleted. |
uppityperson |
Jan-11-09 07:09 PM |
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Understand, it is curious that some DUers proclaim their support for all inalienable rights except |
jody |
Jan-11-09 07:05 PM |
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... the right not to be deprived of life without due process |
iverglas |
Jan-11-09 07:06 PM |
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iverglas, what does that post have to do with this? |
bertman |
Jan-12-09 11:08 AM |
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well, if you follow the dots |
iverglas |
Jan-12-09 11:11 AM |
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So, are you saying that owning a gun means that someone is going to be killed-- |
bertman |
Jan-12-09 11:36 AM |
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I am saying |
iverglas |
Jan-12-09 11:52 AM |
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Obviously the person committing a robbery was going to give everyone "due process". |
Double_Talk_Express |
Jan-12-09 11:54 AM |
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it's a hopeless task |
iverglas |
Jan-12-09 12:02 PM |
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What is your whole argument then? You speak about "due process" as if it has something to do.... |
Double_Talk_Express |
Jan-12-09 12:08 PM |
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educate yourself |
iverglas |
Jan-12-09 12:28 PM |
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read the constitution...not the Brady version of it. |
Double_Talk_Express |
Jan-12-09 12:36 PM |
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your Constitution, for your edification |
iverglas |
Jan-12-09 12:41 PM |
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Jan-12-09 12:59 PM |
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you, "sir" |
iverglas |
Jan-12-09 01:00 PM |
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Historical quotes.. |
X_Digger |
Jan-12-09 02:52 PM |
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seems I don't give a shit |
iverglas |
Jan-12-09 02:57 PM |
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If you're so dismissive.. |
X_Digger |
Jan-12-09 05:29 PM |
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Jan-12-09 06:06 PM |
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such sad ignorance |
iverglas |
Jan-12-09 06:30 PM |
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lordy |
iverglas |
Jan-12-09 06:29 PM |
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"slave-owning, propertied-class white guys" |
Raskolnik |
Jan-14-09 11:29 AM |
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Errmmm... |
beevul |
Jan-13-09 01:58 AM |
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did you have a point? |
iverglas |
Jan-13-09 07:15 AM |
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Jan-13-09 11:04 AM |
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Yeah. the point was to ask you a question. Care to answer it? |
beevul |
Jan-14-09 01:01 AM |
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If I may... (if not, or I am wrong - I apologize!). Iverglas refers to the fact |
jmg257 |
Jan-12-09 12:42 PM |
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so if that person has the intent to deprive you of life with due process, that's okay? |
Double_Talk_Express |
Jan-12-09 12:56 PM |
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so you beat your dog twice daily? |
iverglas |
Jan-12-09 01:02 PM |
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You can't answer the question. |
Double_Talk_Express |
Jan-12-09 01:04 PM |
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evidently, neither can you |
iverglas |
Jan-12-09 01:05 PM |
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I don't have a dog. |
Double_Talk_Express |
Jan-12-09 01:05 PM |
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Nope - not Ok at all. Not with me anyway, and not with society. Which is why his death |
jmg257 |
Jan-12-09 01:03 PM |
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Now, one might argue that the amendment being discussed |
jmg257 |
Jan-12-09 01:20 PM |
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The laws are against murder and manslaughter, not homicide |
tburnsten |
Jan-14-09 06:23 AM |
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Which laws? Where? In the state I live in, there are certainly laws against homicide... |
jmg257 |
Jan-14-09 11:10 AM |
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I forgot about negligent homicide |
tburnsten |
Jan-14-09 01:57 PM |
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you forgot about murder and manslaughter too |
iverglas |
Jan-18-09 02:16 PM |
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oh iverglas, you are just nitpicking ... words don't really MEAN anything specific! |
Scout |
Jan-19-09 10:37 AM |
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in a nutshell |
iverglas |
Jan-12-09 01:01 PM |
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The right to not be deprived of life without due process goes both ways |
tburnsten |
Jan-12-09 12:46 PM |
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It's almost not worth it to bother with iverglas - s/he is just so smug and sees everything in B/W |
Double_Talk_Express |
Jan-12-09 12:53 PM |
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"why should you just go along with it?" |
iverglas |
Jan-12-09 01:04 PM |
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obviously you're going to continue to see everything in black-and-white |
Double_Talk_Express |
Jan-12-09 01:10 PM |
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Nobody is allowed to kill others "with impunity" |
tburnsten |
Jan-12-09 01:21 PM |
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well, we could play this circle game indefinitely |
iverglas |
Jan-12-09 01:41 PM |
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We can play it indefinitely |
tburnsten |
Jan-12-09 01:50 PM |
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what the fuck is your problem? |
iverglas |
Jan-12-09 03:36 PM |
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So you have only been posting about hypothetical situations? |
tburnsten |
Jan-13-09 06:40 AM |
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Nah, |
gorfle |
Jan-13-09 08:22 PM |
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do you need to look up "impunity" now? |
iverglas |
Jan-13-09 09:01 PM |
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No. |
gorfle |
Jan-14-09 12:43 PM |
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On the Bill of Rights |
gorfle |
Jan-13-09 08:19 PM |
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one does tire |
iverglas |
Jan-13-09 09:00 PM |
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I'm having a pretty hard time figuring out what you are attempting to communicate to us |
tburnsten |
Jan-13-09 09:05 PM |
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I feel |
iverglas |
Jan-13-09 09:08 PM |
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What he is on about. |
gorfle |
Jan-14-09 12:35 PM |
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Thank you for distilling it |
tburnsten |
Jan-16-09 10:46 AM |
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Inalienable. |
gorfle |
Jan-14-09 12:27 PM |
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You're wasting your time, Gorfle. |
beevul |
Jan-13-09 11:01 PM |
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Bwhahahahah! |
gorfle |
Jan-14-09 12:41 PM |
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You should stick to Canadian law, because your knowledge of the U.S. Constitution is a bit lacking |
Raskolnik |
Jan-14-09 10:47 AM |
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Well and simply put. |
gorfle |
Jan-14-09 12:42 PM |
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at least I'm not dishonest |
iverglas |
Jan-16-09 01:28 PM |
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Very interesting it seems a suitable topic for General Discussion. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Jan-11-09 06:46 PM |
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And I don't argue with mods either but the unequal treatment is interesting. n/t |
jody |
Jan-11-09 06:48 PM |
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Malum in se |
Joe Steel |
Jan-11-09 08:42 PM |
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Guns are not inherently evil. |
rrneck |
Jan-11-09 10:45 PM |
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Objects do not have the attribute of good/evil. |
ManiacJoe |
Jan-12-09 12:43 AM |
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It's very easy to prove that guns are not inherently evil |
slackmaster |
Jan-12-09 02:25 AM |
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Guns are designed for killing. |
Joe Steel |
Jan-12-09 12:19 PM |
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IF the only intent of some "gun users" was to kill, you may be right. I really do not know too many |
jmg257 |
Jan-12-09 12:30 PM |
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A lot of gun users want to keep people from killing them. |
Double_Talk_Express |
Jan-12-09 01:08 PM |
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Surely, as I am 1. And then owning guns that allow one to do so efficiently and safely |
jmg257 |
Jan-12-09 01:48 PM |
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Killing is not inherently evil |
slackmaster |
Jan-12-09 01:20 PM |
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I have no intent or desire to kill anyone or anything with my firearms. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Jan-12-09 03:23 PM |
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The 'intent' of a gun.. |
X_Digger |
Jan-12-09 05:46 PM |
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ooh scary evil guns. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Jan-13-09 01:12 AM |
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I do think |
iverglas |
Jan-12-09 11:12 AM |
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What does that mean? |
Joe Steel |
Jan-12-09 12:15 PM |
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I'm sorry, but |
iverglas |
Jan-12-09 12:31 PM |
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We have to have some balance. |
Joe Steel |
Jan-12-09 02:41 PM |
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Two arguments you bring up. |
raimius |
Jan-12-09 02:57 PM |
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ah |
iverglas |
Jan-12-09 03:38 PM |
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What does it all mean? |
Joe Steel |
Jan-13-09 06:35 AM |
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ah, words |
iverglas |
Jan-13-09 04:58 PM |
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It's not. |
Joe Steel |
Jan-13-09 06:23 PM |
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You see what's funny is... |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Jan-15-09 02:26 AM |
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I'm glad I could prove your point wrong. |
Joe Steel |
Jan-15-09 06:48 AM |
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When you are the only person that agrees with you, you might want to rethink things. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Jan-15-09 03:53 PM |
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What makes you think no one agrees with me? |
Joe Steel |
Jan-15-09 05:07 PM |
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Guns aren't any more evil than knives or cars. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Jan-15-09 08:23 PM |
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Did you see my comment... |
Joe Steel |
Jan-16-09 10:19 AM |
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So you think all medications are poison? |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Jan-16-09 04:13 PM |
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That's what the doctor said. |
Joe Steel |
Jan-16-09 04:20 PM |
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Do you agree? |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Jan-16-09 04:26 PM |
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Again do you agree with your doctor friend? |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Jan-18-09 01:09 AM |
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Once more, do you agree with your doctor friends assertion that all medications are poison? |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Jan-19-09 12:25 AM |
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Yes. What's the problem? |
Joe Steel |
Jan-19-09 11:26 AM |
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I just wanted to make sure. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Jan-19-09 04:38 PM |
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Well for one thing |
tburnsten |
Jan-16-09 11:08 AM |
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You are a lark |
tburnsten |
Jan-16-09 11:08 AM |
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I couldn't... |
Joe Steel |
Jan-16-09 11:16 AM |
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Thank you for your dedication and commitment |
tburnsten |
Jan-16-09 02:10 PM |
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Inherently evil |
Joe Steel |
Jan-13-09 06:46 AM |
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Guns, like all other objects, do not have the ability |
ManiacJoe |
Jan-13-09 01:44 PM |
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Physical evil includes all that causes harm to man... |
Joe Steel |
Jan-13-09 03:26 PM |
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Unfortunate to have to, but let's read that again.. |
jmg257 |
Jan-13-09 03:49 PM |
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You won't get an answer since you just destroyed his argument. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Jan-15-09 08:28 PM |
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That would be a rather abnormal definition. |
ManiacJoe |
Jan-13-09 04:09 PM |
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yeah, kinda like the *normal* definition of "righteous" |
iverglas |
Jan-13-09 05:02 PM |
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such fondness for archaic language hereabouts |
iverglas |
Jan-13-09 05:01 PM |
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So you see the evil in the gun. |
Joe Steel |
Jan-14-09 07:24 AM |
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No, I don't, so please don't say I do |
iverglas |
Jan-16-09 01:32 PM |
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Are you denying the evidence of your own eyes? |
Joe Steel |
Jan-19-09 09:47 AM |
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one last, er, shot |
iverglas |
Jan-19-09 11:24 AM |
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Nicely stated Iverlgas, I believe even my 3 year old nephew could understand that. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Jan-19-09 04:50 PM |
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so from now on |
iverglas |
Jan-19-09 05:55 PM |
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Unlikely. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Jan-19-09 06:08 PM |
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Your logic is flawed. |
Joe Steel |
Jan-22-09 07:09 AM |
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What If... |
DrCory |
Jan-22-09 02:10 PM |
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You've admitted that guns have some beneficial uses. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Jan-22-09 03:31 PM |
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Do you think medicine is evil? |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Jan-15-09 08:26 PM |
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Good point. |
Joe Steel |
Jan-19-09 09:49 AM |
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But you think all medications are poison. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Jan-22-09 03:34 PM |
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So? |
Joe Steel |
Jan-22-09 04:50 PM |
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Poison-A substance that causes injury, illness, or death, especially by chemical means. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Jan-22-09 07:24 PM |
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Seriously? |
X_Digger |
Jan-13-09 03:51 PM |
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Re: Shouldn't we be consistent in our support of our Constitutional Amendments? |
fingrpik |
Jan-12-09 11:23 PM |
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If you didn't hear outrage about those things on this forum it is because you ignored it. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Jan-13-09 01:06 AM |
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No.. |
fingrpik |
Jan-13-09 02:37 AM |
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This is the Guns forum, I would expect topics started about the 1st Amendment would be moved. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Jan-13-09 06:30 AM |
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Uh Huh. Gun Owners... |
fingrpik |
Jan-13-09 08:59 AM |
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Who said Dems lost in 2000 and 2004 because of guns? |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Jan-13-09 04:08 PM |
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You Keep Asking The Same Question. |
fingrpik |
Jan-13-09 08:39 PM |
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Are you saying that guns never play an issue in elections? |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Jan-13-09 10:10 PM |
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this would be funny |
iverglas |
Jan-13-09 10:24 PM |
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I don't think it's very polite of you to call fingrpik dumb. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Jan-13-09 10:28 PM |
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I'll bet |
iverglas |
Jan-13-09 11:06 PM |
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Very nice. That's good stuff Iverglas. I almost woke my wife up laughing. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Jan-13-09 11:10 PM |
#127 |
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So you just like to bitch about guns? |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Jan-13-09 10:18 PM |
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"point me to a single OP here that has addressed the erosion of any freedom other than RKBA" |
Raskolnik |
Jan-14-09 12:15 PM |
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Kudos To Double_Talk_Express!! |
fingrpik |
Jan-13-09 03:08 AM |
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I'd like to ... |
iverglas |
Jan-13-09 09:06 AM |
#95 |
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Yeah, But Comment #11 Is Still There |
fingrpik |
Jan-13-09 09:23 AM |
#96 |
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