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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-08 11:11 PM
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23. Not sure how much time you've spent on college campuses
Edited on Sat Dec-13-08 11:19 PM by depakid
but they're among the least desirable places (given the psychological pressures and clinical development pattern of mental illnesses) that you'd want people to walk around armed.

But, rather than focus on the negative- here's a look at whatmore responsible gun debates look like:

Rees to review gun laws

(note- semi-automatic pistols and rifles with high capacity clips or magazines are restricted outright- as are pump action shotguns, like the familiar pistol grip Mossberg). That's not at issue.

NSW Premier Nathan Rees says he is prepared to review gun ownership laws to stop weapons from falling into the wrong hands.

Figures from the NSW Firearm Registry obtained by the National Coalition for Gun Control show gun ownership has risen by the rate of 10,000 a year since 2004 - to 687,138 in October this year.

The coalition says the rise coincides with a deal cut by the NSW Government and the Shooters Party in the last week of Parliament to water down tough gun laws introduced in the wake of Tasmania's Port Arthur massacre.

But Mr Rees said the two issues were separate and there was a difference between criminals using guns to commit violent crime and responsible gun owners.

He said he was prepared to review the factors, such as inadequate security, which led to weapons finding their way to criminals.

The Government was also willing to work with the Commonwealth on national issues of gun control, including importations, he said. The vast majority of gun owners are responsible adults. The issue here is guns that find their way into the hands of criminals," Mr Rees told reporters. "We need to do everything we can to avoid that occurring and if that means toughening penalties and refining the law then we'll do it."

Mr Rees said the changes to the laws came about because people were being unfairly treated in some cases.

"There's been an injection of fairness in what were anomalies in the process and that's fair and reasonable," he said.

"The changes that were just made I see as fundamentally separate to changes we may make to reduce the number of criminals getting guns." Mr Rees said he would meet the coalition this week.

An amendment passed in the last week of (state) Parliament would now allow a person with an apprehended violence order to apply to the court to have it revoked, and have their firearms license reinstated. Previously, a person's firearm license was revoked when the order was taken out against them, banning them from keeping guns.

Under the changes, shooting clubs would also no longer have their licenses automatically revoked for not disqualifying members who have been convicted of firearms offenses.

The mandatory 28-day waiting period before a second or third gun could be acquired had also been scrapped.


Police Minister defends gun laws amendments

Amendments to NSW laws proposed by the Shooters Party that remove a waiting period to buy guns are sensible, NSW Police Minister Tony Kelly said.

The change, which removes a 28-day waiting period for people wanting to buy a second gun, makes the system more efficient. "The whole purpose of the 28-day waiting period when you get your first gun is so the police could check you out," Mr Kelly told reporters in Sydney today.

"They've already done that because you've already got a license when you've got a gun." He said the authorities would perform random checks covering registered gun owners during the period of their five-year license.

More: http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/rees-to-review-gun-...


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Another fact based opinion:

'No justification' for changing gun laws


Figures from the NSW Firearm Registry obtained by the National Coalition for Gun Control show gun ownership has risen by the rate of 10,000 a year since 2004 - to 687,138 in October this year.

The coalition says the rise coincides with a deal cut by the NSW government and the Shooters Party to water down tough gun laws introduced in the wake of Tasmania's Port Arthur massacre.

"There is no justification in the NSW Upper House when the Shooters Party put up the amendments," Greens MLC Lee Rhiannon told reporters in Sydney on Sunday, referring to amendments seeking to allow people subject to domestic violence orders to purchase guns.

"The attorney-general initially did not come in on the debate. I challenged him twice on the floor of the house that he had to give an explanation. "Right now, we have a very dangerous situation in NSW."

National Coalition for Gun Control co-ordinator Sam Lee said there was a high risk of more weapons being sold on the black market and a repeat of the Port Arthur massacre.

"It is a simple equation. The more firearms in the community the more likely another massacre will occur," Ms Lee said. "Firearms in the hands of legal shooters are likely to be stolen and fall into the black market."

More: http://news.theage.com.au/national/no-justification-for...




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