Hardrada
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Tue Dec-02-08 06:20 PM
Response to Reply #10 |
| 55. Good point. I wonder what my CA relatives are planning for |
| -Are AR-15 and semi-automatic AK-type rifles in common use? |
Indy Lurker |
Dec-01-08 08:19 PM |
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As long as they leave my K2 alone |
TomInTib |
Dec-01-08 08:27 PM |
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Yeah, well, I guess you're in a rough neighborhood, old chap. |
Hardrada |
Dec-01-08 09:09 PM |
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The way I see it... |
TomInTib |
Dec-01-08 09:59 PM |
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Good point. I wonder what my CA relatives are planning for |
Hardrada |
Dec-02-08 06:20 PM |
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As to the first question, run a google news search |
depakid |
Dec-01-08 08:29 PM |
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Since an AK-47 and semi-automatic AK type rifles are different I'm not sure what your point is. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Dec-01-08 09:20 PM |
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Actually, the take on the Heller case is standard constitutional analysis |
depakid |
Dec-01-08 10:09 PM |
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There have reasonable restrictions in place for at least 70 years. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Dec-01-08 10:27 PM |
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The point was that it removed the ultimate slippery slope argument |
depakid |
Dec-01-08 11:04 PM |
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The slippery slope argument was removed 70 years ago. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Dec-01-08 11:08 PM |
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Actually no- and even today, it still might not be |
depakid |
Dec-01-08 11:14 PM |
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You do realize we are talking about gun law right? |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Dec-01-08 11:20 PM |
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Death by a thousand cuts. |
gorfle |
Dec-02-08 01:26 PM |
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But can "reasonable laws" be so restrictive as to ban handguns? SCOTUS said no in Heller so the next |
jody |
Dec-01-08 10:27 PM |
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First Amendment rights are restricted in certain locations |
depakid |
Dec-01-08 10:35 PM |
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Only the right to self defense hasn't been shown to endanger the public in any way. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Dec-01-08 11:11 PM |
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Not sure how to argue with such an absurd statement... |
depakid |
Dec-01-08 11:19 PM |
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How many cases can you cite where a bystander was injured by a civilian defending them self? |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Dec-01-08 11:22 PM |
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That goggle search isn't working to well on that one is it? |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Dec-01-08 11:34 PM |
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Not even anecdote to back up your absurd statement. I really expected more. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Dec-01-08 11:47 PM |
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You aren't really asking that in earnest are you? |
depakid |
Dec-01-08 11:53 PM |
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Show me examples of people using firearms for self defense injuring bystanders. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Dec-01-08 11:58 PM |
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There's an ENTIRE BODY OF COMMON LAW on this point! |
depakid |
Dec-02-08 12:13 AM |
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So jury instructions are your answer. It shouldn't be hard to find the cases. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Dec-02-08 12:16 AM |
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I found 2 cases from the 1950's. Are those the ones you are talking about? |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Dec-02-08 12:20 AM |
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This is pointless |
depakid |
Dec-02-08 12:51 AM |
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So a couple of dozen cases over the last 50 years is your evidence? |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Dec-02-08 12:59 AM |
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This isn't a trial, and if it were- I'd be motivated to find a LOT of evidence |
depakid |
Dec-02-08 01:50 AM |
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You wouldn't find much. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Dec-02-08 07:29 AM |
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It is pointless. |
tburnsten |
Dec-12-08 02:10 PM |
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ah, how lovely |
iverglas |
Dec-02-08 06:46 PM |
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Thanks I appreciate the compliment. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Dec-03-08 12:49 PM |
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follow the dotted lines, Dave |
iverglas |
Dec-03-08 09:04 PM |
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We both know you were talking to me. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Dec-03-08 10:28 PM |
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AK's & AR's are both in common use |
app_farmer_rb |
Dec-02-08 01:05 AM |
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Funny thing is, assault rifles and machine guns |
tburnsten |
Dec-12-08 02:05 PM |
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re: "...not typically possessed by law-abiding citizens for lawful purposes, such as short-barreled |
AlinPA |
Dec-01-08 08:31 PM |
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Depending on how short.... |
ManiacJoe |
Dec-01-08 08:51 PM |
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The point was that there are very, very few NFA Title 2 restricted short-barreled shotguns... |
benEzra |
Dec-02-08 07:05 AM |
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That part is still a circular argument |
Testament |
Dec-02-08 09:09 PM |
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Quite so. Basically, the Court badly wanted to uphold the National Firearms Act |
benEzra |
Dec-02-08 09:53 PM |
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I can only hope that you are right in your second statement there. n/t |
Testament |
Dec-03-08 12:09 AM |
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Both are extremely common. |
ManiacJoe |
Dec-01-08 08:47 PM |
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Interesting question. I look forward to reading posts from the beetle brigade about how we should |
jody |
Dec-01-08 08:56 PM |
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Extremely common. |
AtheistCrusader |
Dec-01-08 09:37 PM |
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Not uncommon in crimes at all |
depakid |
Dec-01-08 10:10 PM |
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actually they are uncommon when you look at the overall picture |
bossy22 |
Dec-01-08 10:14 PM |
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Depends on one's perspective |
depakid |
Dec-01-08 10:23 PM |
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One person was killed in your four articles. Tragic yes, the sky is falling no. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Dec-01-08 10:33 PM |
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anecdotal evidence proves very litte |
bossy22 |
Dec-01-08 10:45 PM |
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What it shows is that this shit happens all of the time |
depakid |
Dec-01-08 11:09 PM |
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but in small amounts |
bossy22 |
Dec-01-08 11:12 PM |
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That's just asinine, anecdotal evidence doesn't trump factual statistics. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Dec-01-08 11:12 PM |
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See post 34. N/T |
beevul |
Dec-02-08 12:18 AM |
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Good luck, |
Pavulon |
Dec-02-08 06:27 PM |
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Here are some interesting statistics... |
jeepnstein |
Dec-03-08 02:45 PM |
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Here it is in a more concise format... |
jeepnstein |
Dec-03-08 02:57 PM |
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Handguns and semiauto rifles are not "similiar weapons" |
tburnsten |
Dec-12-08 02:39 PM |
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Reality check... |
benEzra |
Dec-02-08 07:10 AM |
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I ran a few threads a while back doing just that |
iverglas |
Dec-02-08 06:54 PM |
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There are crimes against justice and then there are crimes against paper laws |
aldo |
Dec-11-08 02:57 PM |
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oh no, paco! |
iverglas |
Dec-17-08 11:59 AM |
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According to the FBI they account for less than 2% of crimes. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Dec-01-08 10:30 PM |
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You assume much, where google is concerned. |
beevul |
Dec-01-08 11:54 PM |
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Billy Molina. |
AtheistCrusader |
Dec-02-08 02:29 AM |
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Compared to handguns, the numbers are pitifully small. |
AtheistCrusader |
Dec-02-08 01:41 AM |
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But I bet SUVs kill more than compacts. |
joshcryer |
Dec-02-08 03:55 AM |
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Hunting rifles are the SUV's...big, heavy, much more powerful, and stodgy. |
benEzra |
Dec-02-08 12:05 PM |
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Are there more AR-15 type rifles and semi-automatic AK-type rifles in the US than Bolt action rifles |
Indy Lurker |
Dec-02-08 05:30 AM |
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They'd be more common... |
jeepnstein |
Dec-02-08 07:41 AM |
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They well surpass the number of bolt guns in my collection. |
akgirl |
Dec-02-08 11:28 AM |
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"Stoner's ugly hunk of junk"? |
jeepnstein |
Dec-02-08 07:03 PM |
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Not as much of a problem anymore... |
benEzra |
Dec-02-08 09:20 PM |
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sports.. |
Pavulon |
Dec-02-08 10:11 PM |
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yeah, my stupid ass brother in law has one |
Scout |
Dec-12-08 11:05 AM |
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Too bad for you - being related to an ass hole and all. Nothing you could do to change |
jmg257 |
Dec-12-08 11:46 AM |
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You have a real point there. Drug dealers, gang bangers and |
rrneck |
Dec-12-08 12:32 PM |
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A question... |
benEzra |
Dec-12-08 02:44 PM |
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I have never owned an AK nor do I plan to, although it looks like it would be fun to shoot. All I |
rrneck |
Dec-12-08 03:55 PM |
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Ah, I see. I thought you were saying that AK's and AR's |
benEzra |
Dec-12-08 05:00 PM |
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Thanks for your patient and |
rrneck |
Dec-12-08 06:39 PM |
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That price was in 2003. SAR-1's are going for a bit more now... |
benEzra |
Dec-13-08 01:32 PM |
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If I were younger, I would select an AR 15 or AK platform for deer hunting... |
SteveM |
Dec-16-08 05:28 PM |
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I bought a hunting magazine for mine shortly after buying the rifle... |
benEzra |
Dec-16-08 08:00 PM |
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And affordable when compared with an AR 15 platform... |
SteveM |
Dec-17-08 10:34 AM |
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The easiest way to make an AK considerably more accurate |
benEzra |
Dec-17-08 11:21 AM |
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Just put together a hog gun in.... |
moroni |
Dec-13-08 08:57 PM |
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They are common... |
Jack_DeLeon |
Dec-18-08 05:13 PM |
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