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Mon Dec-01-08 10:45 PM
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| 20. anecdotal evidence proves very litte |
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A three-year-old autistic boy died after being strangled by his seatbelt on a schoolbus this past Sunday, the Jerusalem Post reports. An aide has been arrested:
now if this kid hadnt been wearing his seatbelt he probably would have still been alive. does that mean we should not strap our children in seatbelts when they travel....i think you'd be hard pressed to find anyone who agreed with this statement
Anecdotal evidence is just proof that it has happened....it does not suggest its a rampant problem...everything must be put in relative terms. you may find 500 articles about ak's being used to hurt people....but in the overall picture you will find over 10,000 articles of other weapons being used to hurt people
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| -Are AR-15 and semi-automatic AK-type rifles in common use? |
Indy Lurker |
Dec-01-08 08:19 PM |
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As long as they leave my K2 alone |
TomInTib |
Dec-01-08 08:27 PM |
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Yeah, well, I guess you're in a rough neighborhood, old chap. |
Hardrada |
Dec-01-08 09:09 PM |
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The way I see it... |
TomInTib |
Dec-01-08 09:59 PM |
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Good point. I wonder what my CA relatives are planning for |
Hardrada |
Dec-02-08 06:20 PM |
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As to the first question, run a google news search |
depakid |
Dec-01-08 08:29 PM |
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Since an AK-47 and semi-automatic AK type rifles are different I'm not sure what your point is. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Dec-01-08 09:20 PM |
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Actually, the take on the Heller case is standard constitutional analysis |
depakid |
Dec-01-08 10:09 PM |
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There have reasonable restrictions in place for at least 70 years. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Dec-01-08 10:27 PM |
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The point was that it removed the ultimate slippery slope argument |
depakid |
Dec-01-08 11:04 PM |
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The slippery slope argument was removed 70 years ago. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Dec-01-08 11:08 PM |
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Actually no- and even today, it still might not be |
depakid |
Dec-01-08 11:14 PM |
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You do realize we are talking about gun law right? |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Dec-01-08 11:20 PM |
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Death by a thousand cuts. |
gorfle |
Dec-02-08 01:26 PM |
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But can "reasonable laws" be so restrictive as to ban handguns? SCOTUS said no in Heller so the next |
jody |
Dec-01-08 10:27 PM |
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First Amendment rights are restricted in certain locations |
depakid |
Dec-01-08 10:35 PM |
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Only the right to self defense hasn't been shown to endanger the public in any way. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Dec-01-08 11:11 PM |
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Not sure how to argue with such an absurd statement... |
depakid |
Dec-01-08 11:19 PM |
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How many cases can you cite where a bystander was injured by a civilian defending them self? |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Dec-01-08 11:22 PM |
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That goggle search isn't working to well on that one is it? |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Dec-01-08 11:34 PM |
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Not even anecdote to back up your absurd statement. I really expected more. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Dec-01-08 11:47 PM |
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You aren't really asking that in earnest are you? |
depakid |
Dec-01-08 11:53 PM |
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Show me examples of people using firearms for self defense injuring bystanders. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Dec-01-08 11:58 PM |
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There's an ENTIRE BODY OF COMMON LAW on this point! |
depakid |
Dec-02-08 12:13 AM |
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So jury instructions are your answer. It shouldn't be hard to find the cases. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Dec-02-08 12:16 AM |
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I found 2 cases from the 1950's. Are those the ones you are talking about? |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Dec-02-08 12:20 AM |
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This is pointless |
depakid |
Dec-02-08 12:51 AM |
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So a couple of dozen cases over the last 50 years is your evidence? |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Dec-02-08 12:59 AM |
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This isn't a trial, and if it were- I'd be motivated to find a LOT of evidence |
depakid |
Dec-02-08 01:50 AM |
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You wouldn't find much. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Dec-02-08 07:29 AM |
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It is pointless. |
tburnsten |
Dec-12-08 02:10 PM |
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ah, how lovely |
iverglas |
Dec-02-08 06:46 PM |
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Thanks I appreciate the compliment. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Dec-03-08 12:49 PM |
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follow the dotted lines, Dave |
iverglas |
Dec-03-08 09:04 PM |
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We both know you were talking to me. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Dec-03-08 10:28 PM |
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AK's & AR's are both in common use |
app_farmer_rb |
Dec-02-08 01:05 AM |
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Funny thing is, assault rifles and machine guns |
tburnsten |
Dec-12-08 02:05 PM |
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re: "...not typically possessed by law-abiding citizens for lawful purposes, such as short-barreled |
AlinPA |
Dec-01-08 08:31 PM |
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Depending on how short.... |
ManiacJoe |
Dec-01-08 08:51 PM |
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The point was that there are very, very few NFA Title 2 restricted short-barreled shotguns... |
benEzra |
Dec-02-08 07:05 AM |
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That part is still a circular argument |
Testament |
Dec-02-08 09:09 PM |
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Quite so. Basically, the Court badly wanted to uphold the National Firearms Act |
benEzra |
Dec-02-08 09:53 PM |
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I can only hope that you are right in your second statement there. n/t |
Testament |
Dec-03-08 12:09 AM |
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Both are extremely common. |
ManiacJoe |
Dec-01-08 08:47 PM |
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Interesting question. I look forward to reading posts from the beetle brigade about how we should |
jody |
Dec-01-08 08:56 PM |
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Extremely common. |
AtheistCrusader |
Dec-01-08 09:37 PM |
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Not uncommon in crimes at all |
depakid |
Dec-01-08 10:10 PM |
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actually they are uncommon when you look at the overall picture |
bossy22 |
Dec-01-08 10:14 PM |
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Depends on one's perspective |
depakid |
Dec-01-08 10:23 PM |
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One person was killed in your four articles. Tragic yes, the sky is falling no. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Dec-01-08 10:33 PM |
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anecdotal evidence proves very litte |
bossy22 |
Dec-01-08 10:45 PM |
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What it shows is that this shit happens all of the time |
depakid |
Dec-01-08 11:09 PM |
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but in small amounts |
bossy22 |
Dec-01-08 11:12 PM |
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That's just asinine, anecdotal evidence doesn't trump factual statistics. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Dec-01-08 11:12 PM |
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See post 34. N/T |
beevul |
Dec-02-08 12:18 AM |
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Good luck, |
Pavulon |
Dec-02-08 06:27 PM |
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Here are some interesting statistics... |
jeepnstein |
Dec-03-08 02:45 PM |
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Here it is in a more concise format... |
jeepnstein |
Dec-03-08 02:57 PM |
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Handguns and semiauto rifles are not "similiar weapons" |
tburnsten |
Dec-12-08 02:39 PM |
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Reality check... |
benEzra |
Dec-02-08 07:10 AM |
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I ran a few threads a while back doing just that |
iverglas |
Dec-02-08 06:54 PM |
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There are crimes against justice and then there are crimes against paper laws |
aldo |
Dec-11-08 02:57 PM |
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oh no, paco! |
iverglas |
Dec-17-08 11:59 AM |
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According to the FBI they account for less than 2% of crimes. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Dec-01-08 10:30 PM |
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You assume much, where google is concerned. |
beevul |
Dec-01-08 11:54 PM |
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Billy Molina. |
AtheistCrusader |
Dec-02-08 02:29 AM |
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Compared to handguns, the numbers are pitifully small. |
AtheistCrusader |
Dec-02-08 01:41 AM |
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But I bet SUVs kill more than compacts. |
joshcryer |
Dec-02-08 03:55 AM |
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Hunting rifles are the SUV's...big, heavy, much more powerful, and stodgy. |
benEzra |
Dec-02-08 12:05 PM |
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Are there more AR-15 type rifles and semi-automatic AK-type rifles in the US than Bolt action rifles |
Indy Lurker |
Dec-02-08 05:30 AM |
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They'd be more common... |
jeepnstein |
Dec-02-08 07:41 AM |
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They well surpass the number of bolt guns in my collection. |
akgirl |
Dec-02-08 11:28 AM |
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"Stoner's ugly hunk of junk"? |
jeepnstein |
Dec-02-08 07:03 PM |
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Not as much of a problem anymore... |
benEzra |
Dec-02-08 09:20 PM |
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sports.. |
Pavulon |
Dec-02-08 10:11 PM |
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yeah, my stupid ass brother in law has one |
Scout |
Dec-12-08 11:05 AM |
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Too bad for you - being related to an ass hole and all. Nothing you could do to change |
jmg257 |
Dec-12-08 11:46 AM |
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You have a real point there. Drug dealers, gang bangers and |
rrneck |
Dec-12-08 12:32 PM |
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A question... |
benEzra |
Dec-12-08 02:44 PM |
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I have never owned an AK nor do I plan to, although it looks like it would be fun to shoot. All I |
rrneck |
Dec-12-08 03:55 PM |
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Ah, I see. I thought you were saying that AK's and AR's |
benEzra |
Dec-12-08 05:00 PM |
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Thanks for your patient and |
rrneck |
Dec-12-08 06:39 PM |
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That price was in 2003. SAR-1's are going for a bit more now... |
benEzra |
Dec-13-08 01:32 PM |
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If I were younger, I would select an AR 15 or AK platform for deer hunting... |
SteveM |
Dec-16-08 05:28 PM |
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I bought a hunting magazine for mine shortly after buying the rifle... |
benEzra |
Dec-16-08 08:00 PM |
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And affordable when compared with an AR 15 platform... |
SteveM |
Dec-17-08 10:34 AM |
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The easiest way to make an AK considerably more accurate |
benEzra |
Dec-17-08 11:21 AM |
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Just put together a hog gun in.... |
moroni |
Dec-13-08 08:57 PM |
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They are common... |
Jack_DeLeon |
Dec-18-08 05:13 PM |
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