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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-08 12:10 PM
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17. Obama disagrees with you and he's courting the vote of 80 million gun-owners. n/t
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  -Biden says he would not restrict gun ownership but then promises to restrict guns. jody  Oct-18-08 10:36 AM   #0 
  - From an avid hunter and sportsman  thevoiceofreason   Oct-18-08 10:39 AM   #1 
  - I have read the two bills numerous times. Apparently you have not. n/t  jody   Oct-18-08 10:41 AM   #2 
  - you have no "right" to own a gun unless its for use in the militia nt  msongs   Oct-18-08 10:57 AM   #3 
     - Suggest you read D.C. v. Heller at the link below.  jody   Oct-18-08 11:08 AM   #4 
     - How dare you bring up OUR Constitutional Rights - what a lousy excuse for dissent ;-)  Traveling_Home   Oct-18-08 11:24 AM   #5 
     - Titile 10, United States Code, defines the (unorganised) militia as all able-bodied men age 17-45.  Spider Jerusalem   Oct-18-08 02:13 PM   #47 
     - That is utter nonsense, with ZERO support in Supreme Court decisions.  TexasObserver   Oct-18-08 02:18 PM   #50 
     - Alas, the Supreme Court does not agree.  Occam Bandage   Oct-18-08 03:33 PM   #74 
     - And you have no "right"  rl6214   Oct-27-08 02:20 AM   #163 
  - VOR, the second amendment is not about hunting, and never has been.  TexasObserver   Oct-18-08 03:47 PM   #82 
  - Only 1 in 5 gun owners hunts. The other 4 out of 5 would like to keep our guns too, thanks.  benEzra   Oct-18-08 07:08 PM   #99 
  - I need plastic bullets  tburnsten   Oct-20-08 08:36 AM   #124 
  - .  neverforget   Oct-18-08 11:32 AM   #6 
  - Love that graphic!  tburnsten   Oct-20-08 08:47 AM   #125 
  - Ahhh. More gun hysteria from you.  elkston   Oct-18-08 11:53 AM   #7 
  - A FAL is an automatic weapon, and so essentially impossible to own legally  dmesg   Oct-18-08 11:59 AM   #8 
  - But is there concern that these "cosmetic" Automatic Weapons can be ...  elkston   Oct-18-08 12:09 PM   #15 
  - It's as difficult as making a new machine gun  dmesg   Oct-18-08 01:13 PM   #22 
  - The concern may be that police officers  demokatgurrl   Oct-18-08 01:25 PM   #23 
  - If ...  beevul   Oct-18-08 01:55 PM   #39 
  - There aren't any situations where that would be an issue  tburnsten   Oct-20-08 09:03 AM   #127 
  - Under the National Firearms Act of 1934 as amended by the McClure-Volkmer Act of 1986,  benEzra   Oct-18-08 07:11 PM   #100 
  - Thanks for your concern  slackmaster   Oct-19-08 09:15 AM   #105 
  - It is not possible, or they would be banned from import/sale  tburnsten   Oct-20-08 08:58 AM   #126 
  - The FAL rifles imported and sold legally in the US over the past  old mark   Oct-18-08 02:01 PM   #41 
     - They are also not legal in several states, even with the tax stamp and background check.  AtheistCrusader   Oct-20-08 01:26 PM   #132 
  - See post #13. n/t  jody   Oct-18-08 12:09 PM   #16 
  - Mine's getting buried  michreject   Oct-19-08 06:28 AM   #104 
     - wrong answer..........  one-eyed fat man   Oct-22-08 07:31 AM   #160 
  - Well, that's it, then. The sky is falling. Put on your ashes and sackcloth.  Shakespeare   Oct-18-08 12:04 PM   #9 
  - Obama disagrees with you and he's courting the vote of 80 million gun-owners. n/t  jody   Oct-18-08 12:10 PM   #17 
     - You presume far too much about me.  Shakespeare   Oct-18-08 01:52 PM   #36 
        - You said "I don't fucking care" and I pointed out that Obama does care about the votes of gun-owners  jody   Oct-18-08 03:05 PM   #66 
           - You have reading comprehension problems.  Shakespeare   Oct-18-08 03:08 PM   #67 
              - So you do disagree with Obama re the importance of 80 million gun-owners. Have a nice day. n/t  jody   Oct-18-08 03:11 PM   #69 
                 - No, I don't. And that's a logical and factual leap you simply can't make...  Shakespeare   Oct-19-08 10:16 AM   #112 
                    - Time ran out on rewriting your posts that prove you don't support the 2nd, Obama does! n/t  jody   Oct-19-08 01:36 PM   #115 
                    - Time ran out on what?  Shakespeare   Oct-19-08 06:32 PM   #117 
                    - Sound & Fury signifying nothing...  SteveM   Oct-20-08 04:45 PM   #135 
  - OH save it. Who cares about machine guns???  pending   Oct-18-08 12:04 PM   #10 
  - See post #13. n/t  jody   Oct-18-08 12:09 PM   #14 
  - Assault weapons are not machine guns  dmesg   Oct-18-08 02:34 PM   #56 
  - uh, the ones that pay OVER $1,000,000 for one?  Tejas   Oct-20-08 09:21 PM   #155 
  - delete - dupe  pending   Oct-18-08 12:04 PM   #11 
  - You betcha!!!! I think everyone should have an automatic weapon for hunting!!!  IsItJustMe   Oct-18-08 12:04 PM   #12 
  - Your post shows amazing ignorance of the AWB issue. It's about semiautomatic not automatic firearms.  jody   Oct-18-08 12:08 PM   #13 
  - All I can say is that I want to pop a cap in Bambie's ass and the more bullets and the faster the  IsItJustMe   Oct-18-08 12:48 PM   #18 
     - So you like uneven odds when it comes to shooting Bambie's ass?  Lerrad   Oct-18-08 03:47 PM   #81 
     - LOL Maybe I should have included the sarcasm icon.  IsItJustMe   Oct-19-08 09:27 AM   #110 
     - Does it make you a bad person? No, but...  slackmaster   Oct-19-08 10:35 AM   #113 
     - No, not a BAD person. (nt)  SteveM   Oct-20-08 04:49 PM   #136 
  - It's been said before, but a Thompson Sub Machine Gun is not an 'assault weapon'.  AtheistCrusader   Oct-20-08 01:30 PM   #133 
  - i don't understand your point ...  shireen   Oct-18-08 01:07 PM   #19 
  - "take out an entire herd of game or shred a deer, all using one round of ammo"  beevul   Oct-18-08 01:43 PM   #33 
  - my bad, used the wrong word in my post.  shireen   Oct-18-08 02:06 PM   #44 
  - Most states have limits on the capacity of magazines used during hunting  slackmaster   Oct-19-08 09:17 AM   #106 
  - so i looked up the meaning of "assault weapon"  shireen   Oct-18-08 02:49 PM   #64 
     - Thank you.  beevul   Oct-18-08 03:30 PM   #71 
     - How would "firepower" be described?  tburnsten   Oct-20-08 09:44 AM   #128 
     - No, it's any civilian self-loading rifle with a HANDGRIP THAT STICKS OUT.  benEzra   Oct-20-08 10:26 PM   #157 
  - Have you confused semi-auto rifles with full-auto rifles?...  SteveM   Oct-20-08 05:01 PM   #137 
  - "One round of ammo"?  Iktomiwicasa   Nov-16-08 10:51 AM   #165 
  - Do you ever think of anything besides guns!? I have never seen you post about anything else!  PM7nj   Oct-18-08 01:09 PM   #20 
  - Is this... Yes! It is! I see it: "Topic Forums: Guns"! Rest well. (nt)  SteveM   Oct-20-08 05:08 PM   #138 
  - If they go after guns, and the economy is still flat... Obama is looking at 1-term  iiibbb   Oct-18-08 01:13 PM   #21 
  - Delete-nt  4themind   Oct-18-08 02:03 PM   #42 
  - I fully agree with iiibbb in the post above.  FORREST GRUMP   Oct-20-08 02:29 PM   #134 
  - What is the point you are trying to make here?  pirhana   Oct-18-08 01:28 PM   #24 
  - The crime rate was dropping before the passage of the AWB  iiibbb   Oct-18-08 01:31 PM   #26 
  - They don't want to ban guns.  pirhana   Oct-18-08 01:37 PM   #29 
     - If he won TN and WV he would have won in spite of FL. He had said wanted to ban semiautos...  iiibbb   Oct-18-08 02:12 PM   #46 
  - Crime was already going down  tburnsten   Oct-20-08 09:47 AM   #129 
  - Ooh....another Jody thread to hide! Kewl.  FrenchieCat   Oct-18-08 01:30 PM   #25 
  - I haven't heard of Jody before  vanderRock   Oct-18-08 01:41 PM   #31 
     - jody threads are always anti-DU  greenbriar   Oct-18-08 01:52 PM   #37 
     - Pro-gun does not mean anti DU. They are "tolerated" because they are bringing up valid  old mark   Oct-18-08 02:17 PM   #49 
     - Sounds like greenbriar has a distorted view of what is and is not proper on DU  slackmaster   Oct-19-08 09:20 AM   #107 
     - I don't know why people who spell so badly are tolerated.  Fire_Medic_Dave   Oct-19-08 06:39 PM   #119 
     - "Anti-DU"? "Why are they tolerated"? Some folks have open minds. (nt)  SteveM   Oct-20-08 05:12 PM   #139 
     - Head On Down To The Gun Dungeon, If You Have The Stomach For It  Paladin   Oct-18-08 02:33 PM   #55 
        - We can't help it if you have a weak stomach.  Fire_Medic_Dave   Oct-19-08 06:40 PM   #120 
        - Vee vill not have dissent HERE! [crop slapping]. Who did dat poll?  SteveM   Oct-20-08 05:15 PM   #140 
  - Biden is not running for president  CreekDog   Oct-18-08 01:33 PM   #27 
  - free clue  Tejas   Oct-20-08 09:25 PM   #156 
  - Are assault weapons always automatic?  anonymous171   Oct-18-08 01:34 PM   #28 
  - Actually...  beevul   Oct-18-08 01:47 PM   #34 
  - There is a specific definition for "Assault Rifle" - it has a magazine  old mark   Oct-18-08 02:13 PM   #48 
  - Indeed. The main "problem" many have with the semi auto "assault rifle" is how it looks.  TexasObserver   Oct-18-08 02:34 PM   #58 
     - And It's The Appearance Of The AR-15 That Makes You Want One So Bad  Paladin   Oct-18-08 02:49 PM   #65 
        - There are two kinds of gun nuts, and both are wrong.  TexasObserver   Oct-18-08 03:42 PM   #80 
        - Do you "settle for whatever the New York 'Times' says" about Iraq? On a "given day"?  SteveM   Oct-20-08 05:21 PM   #141 
        - You just hate them because they are black.  Fire_Medic_Dave   Oct-24-08 08:22 PM   #162 
  - "Assault weapons" are never fully automatic  dmesg   Oct-18-08 02:30 PM   #54 
  - No, never automatic  slackmaster   Oct-19-08 09:21 AM   #108 
  - watch this video: anyone who is confused about the AWB should watch it  Endangered Specie   Oct-19-08 11:38 AM   #114 
  - I don't think any of them are automatic  tburnsten   Oct-20-08 09:54 AM   #130 
  - This is one of the 2 issues you ever care about  CreekDog   Oct-18-08 01:40 PM   #30 
  - We NEED goading, time and again. Otherwise, why are you voting Obama?  SteveM   Oct-20-08 05:24 PM   #142 
  - If they would get on the right side of the issue it wouldn't be a problem.  Fire_Medic_Dave   Oct-24-08 08:19 PM   #161 
  - Maybe you should vote for McSame then  TOJ   Oct-18-08 01:43 PM   #32 
  - wish we could rec individual comments. This one is awesome  greenbriar   Oct-18-08 02:03 PM   #43 
  - Awsome in its stupidity. nt  old mark   Oct-18-08 02:19 PM   #51 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Oct-18-08 03:09 PM   #68 
  - Firearms actually do make sound investments if you choose them carefully and take care of them  slackmaster   Oct-19-08 09:26 AM   #109 
  - You probably shouldn't encourage people to vote for McCain.  Fire_Medic_Dave   Oct-19-08 06:38 PM   #118 
  - It is unfortunate...  beevul   Oct-18-08 01:52 PM   #35 
  - The actor Dorn (Starwars, Next Generation) owns and operates a Sabre fighter (nt)  SteveM   Oct-20-08 05:30 PM   #143 
  - Please GOTV, CANVASS, VOTE, PHONEBANK, DONATE for Obama - a public service anouncement =)  asSEENonTV   Oct-18-08 01:54 PM   #38 
  - Is this a deal breaker for you or what because you still get to keep your guns  chimpsrsmarter   Oct-18-08 01:56 PM   #40 
  - Are there people so obtuse to make gun ownership the one issue that determines their vote?  SurferBoy   Oct-18-08 02:12 PM   #45 
  - Yes, there are.  beevul   Oct-18-08 02:22 PM   #52 
  - You miss the point entirely...  SteveM   Oct-20-08 05:37 PM   #144 
  - As you should know, reasonable restrictions on gun ownership ARE constitutional.  TexasObserver   Oct-18-08 02:24 PM   #53 
  - What do fully automatic weapons have to do with this discussion?  beevul   Oct-18-08 02:34 PM   #57 
  - Supreme Court opinions, not YOUR opinion, matter.  TexasObserver   Oct-18-08 02:38 PM   #60 
     - Wait a minute...  beevul   Oct-18-08 03:11 PM   #70 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Oct-18-08 03:35 PM   #75 
        - I think we may be misunderstanding each other here.  beevul   Oct-18-08 04:00 PM   #87 
           - Cool. We agree on substance.  TexasObserver   Oct-18-08 04:32 PM   #90 
              - Indeed we do.  beevul   Oct-18-08 04:55 PM   #96 
     - Umm, not good enough. Give us your arguments (nt)  SteveM   Oct-20-08 05:42 PM   #145 
  - TexasObserver either you did not read the cited article or you didn't understand it. Biden said he  jody   Oct-18-08 04:10 PM   #88 
     - I don't agree with Biden on this, and wish he'd stop talking about it.  TexasObserver   Oct-18-08 04:37 PM   #91 
        - We agree. Still Biden sponsors S.2237 and 67 Democratic congresspersons sponsor H.R. 1022. It is  jody   Oct-18-08 06:58 PM   #98 
  - ten minutes prior to general election and EVERY little interest group has a cow  crankychatter   Oct-18-08 02:36 PM   #59 
  - Possibly, however...  beevul   Oct-18-08 02:42 PM   #61 
  - Who cares? People are living in "tent cities," jobs gone, savings  kenzee13   Oct-18-08 02:45 PM   #62 
  - So, how do you feel about the proposed Assault Weapon Ban?  SteveM   Oct-20-08 05:49 PM   #146 
  - I think that most people who aren't gun aficionados view assault weapons as  gateley   Oct-18-08 02:49 PM   #63 
  - You are essentially correct.  beevul   Oct-18-08 03:48 PM   #83 
  - insane. you not biden. nt  lionesspriyanka   Oct-18-08 03:32 PM   #72 
  - None of us are Biden. Nevertheless, on this issue Biden is wrong.(nt)  SteveM   Oct-20-08 05:54 PM   #147 
  - id be happy if biden stopped talking about guns, marriage and abortion.  Essene   Oct-18-08 03:33 PM   #73 
  - i'd be happy is people cared little for dumb social issues and guns  Jennicut   Oct-18-08 03:36 PM   #77 
  - I agree. n/t  jody   Oct-18-08 03:56 PM   #86 
  - Criminy. Every time we get close to an election, the special-interest wankers start whining.  Occam Bandage   Oct-18-08 03:35 PM   #76 
  - Yup. I decided my special interest is goats  Jennicut   Oct-18-08 03:41 PM   #79 
     - Viva La Chevre!!!!  SurferBoy   Oct-18-08 03:53 PM   #84 
     - Yeah, I wish the gun-control goats would vacate, don't you? (nt)  SteveM   Oct-20-08 05:57 PM   #148 
  - imo giving up assault weapons (and SUVs) for the greater good is patriotic.  polichick   Oct-18-08 03:40 PM   #78 
  - You are entitled to your oppinion  bossy22   Oct-18-08 04:50 PM   #95 
  - let me know how you feel about that when they drag you  ArmedAmerican   Oct-18-08 05:03 PM   #97 
  - You have your "patriotism," I have my guns. Fair enough (nt)  SteveM   Oct-20-08 05:59 PM   #149 
  - What greater good?  benEzra   Oct-21-08 10:41 AM   #159 
  - This always reminds me of the song Mark Of The Male by the Residents.  Forkboy   Oct-18-08 03:54 PM   #85 
  - Usually "penis-obsessed posters" start early. Where ya been?...  SteveM   Oct-20-08 06:04 PM   #150 
  - So somebody just answer me straight. Are semi-automatic rifles *totally* banned or not?  elkston   Oct-18-08 04:11 PM   #89 
  - The answer is no.  beevul   Oct-18-08 04:43 PM   #92 
  - to answer your question straight  bossy22   Oct-18-08 04:47 PM   #94 
  - JA3 will be out in a few short months!  tburnsten   Oct-20-08 10:45 AM   #131 
  - look good, feel good..  Pavulon   Nov-16-08 11:02 AM   #166 
  - Biden is quite a talker.  Hangingon   Oct-18-08 04:44 PM   #93 
  - We are two Democrats who voted against gun control, -- Joe Biden  aikoaiko   Oct-18-08 07:22 PM   #101 
  - OnTheIissues does not report Biden as voting against gun-control bills.  jody   Oct-18-08 07:38 PM   #102 
  - Sure, ban assault weapons.......  wartrace   Oct-18-08 09:28 PM   #103 
  - How can he just lie like that?  JoeyMac   Oct-19-08 09:45 AM   #111 
  - hes not necessarily lying  bossy22   Oct-19-08 05:37 PM   #116 
  - hey, he's a Democrat  iverglas   Oct-19-08 08:03 PM   #122 
  - where's that pooper scooper?  iverglas   Oct-19-08 07:56 PM   #121 
  - Up there on No. 85. How are you and yours doing?  SteveM   Oct-20-08 06:12 PM   #151 
     - hmm  iverglas   Oct-20-08 07:45 PM   #152 
        - Yeah, political correctness ain't what it used to be...  SteveM   Oct-20-08 08:10 PM   #153 
           - actually  iverglas   Oct-20-08 08:32 PM   #154 
  - HAHA, flamethrowers are not guns at all, and neither are bazookas!  tburnsten   Oct-20-08 08:35 AM   #123 
  - Is anyone really surprised that Biden would say this?  derby378   Oct-21-08 09:24 AM   #158 
     - An unfortunate duo  raimius   Oct-27-08 03:13 AM   #164 

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