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Sat Oct-18-08 10:57 AM
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| 3. you have no "right" to own a gun unless its for use in the militia nt |
| -“Biden says he would not restrict gun ownership” but then promises to restrict guns. |
jody |
Oct-18-08 10:36 AM |
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From an avid hunter and sportsman |
thevoiceofreason |
Oct-18-08 10:39 AM |
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I have read the two bills numerous times. Apparently you have not. n/t |
jody |
Oct-18-08 10:41 AM |
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you have no "right" to own a gun unless its for use in the militia nt |
msongs |
Oct-18-08 10:57 AM |
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Suggest you read D.C. v. Heller at the link below. |
jody |
Oct-18-08 11:08 AM |
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How dare you bring up OUR Constitutional Rights - what a lousy excuse for dissent ;-) |
Traveling_Home |
Oct-18-08 11:24 AM |
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Titile 10, United States Code, defines the (unorganised) militia as all able-bodied men age 17-45. |
Spider Jerusalem |
Oct-18-08 02:13 PM |
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That is utter nonsense, with ZERO support in Supreme Court decisions. |
TexasObserver |
Oct-18-08 02:18 PM |
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Alas, the Supreme Court does not agree. |
Occam Bandage |
Oct-18-08 03:33 PM |
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And you have no "right" |
rl6214 |
Oct-27-08 02:20 AM |
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VOR, the second amendment is not about hunting, and never has been. |
TexasObserver |
Oct-18-08 03:47 PM |
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Only 1 in 5 gun owners hunts. The other 4 out of 5 would like to keep our guns too, thanks. |
benEzra |
Oct-18-08 07:08 PM |
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I need plastic bullets |
tburnsten |
Oct-20-08 08:36 AM |
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. |
neverforget |
Oct-18-08 11:32 AM |
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Love that graphic! |
tburnsten |
Oct-20-08 08:47 AM |
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Ahhh. More gun hysteria from you. |
elkston |
Oct-18-08 11:53 AM |
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A FAL is an automatic weapon, and so essentially impossible to own legally |
dmesg |
Oct-18-08 11:59 AM |
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But is there concern that these "cosmetic" Automatic Weapons can be ... |
elkston |
Oct-18-08 12:09 PM |
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It's as difficult as making a new machine gun |
dmesg |
Oct-18-08 01:13 PM |
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The concern may be that police officers |
demokatgurrl |
Oct-18-08 01:25 PM |
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If ... |
beevul |
Oct-18-08 01:55 PM |
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There aren't any situations where that would be an issue |
tburnsten |
Oct-20-08 09:03 AM |
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Under the National Firearms Act of 1934 as amended by the McClure-Volkmer Act of 1986, |
benEzra |
Oct-18-08 07:11 PM |
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Thanks for your concern |
slackmaster |
Oct-19-08 09:15 AM |
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It is not possible, or they would be banned from import/sale |
tburnsten |
Oct-20-08 08:58 AM |
#126 |
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The FAL rifles imported and sold legally in the US over the past |
old mark |
Oct-18-08 02:01 PM |
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They are also not legal in several states, even with the tax stamp and background check. |
AtheistCrusader |
Oct-20-08 01:26 PM |
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See post #13. n/t |
jody |
Oct-18-08 12:09 PM |
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Mine's getting buried |
michreject |
Oct-19-08 06:28 AM |
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wrong answer.......... |
one-eyed fat man |
Oct-22-08 07:31 AM |
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Well, that's it, then. The sky is falling. Put on your ashes and sackcloth. |
Shakespeare |
Oct-18-08 12:04 PM |
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Obama disagrees with you and he's courting the vote of 80 million gun-owners. n/t |
jody |
Oct-18-08 12:10 PM |
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You presume far too much about me. |
Shakespeare |
Oct-18-08 01:52 PM |
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You said "I don't fucking care" and I pointed out that Obama does care about the votes of gun-owners |
jody |
Oct-18-08 03:05 PM |
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You have reading comprehension problems. |
Shakespeare |
Oct-18-08 03:08 PM |
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So you do disagree with Obama re the importance of 80 million gun-owners. Have a nice day. n/t |
jody |
Oct-18-08 03:11 PM |
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No, I don't. And that's a logical and factual leap you simply can't make... |
Shakespeare |
Oct-19-08 10:16 AM |
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Time ran out on rewriting your posts that prove you don't support the 2nd, Obama does! n/t |
jody |
Oct-19-08 01:36 PM |
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Time ran out on what? |
Shakespeare |
Oct-19-08 06:32 PM |
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Sound & Fury signifying nothing... |
SteveM |
Oct-20-08 04:45 PM |
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OH save it. Who cares about machine guns??? |
pending |
Oct-18-08 12:04 PM |
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See post #13. n/t |
jody |
Oct-18-08 12:09 PM |
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Assault weapons are not machine guns |
dmesg |
Oct-18-08 02:34 PM |
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uh, the ones that pay OVER $1,000,000 for one? |
Tejas |
Oct-20-08 09:21 PM |
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delete - dupe |
pending |
Oct-18-08 12:04 PM |
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You betcha!!!! I think everyone should have an automatic weapon for hunting!!! |
IsItJustMe |
Oct-18-08 12:04 PM |
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Your post shows amazing ignorance of the AWB issue. It's about semiautomatic not automatic firearms. |
jody |
Oct-18-08 12:08 PM |
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All I can say is that I want to pop a cap in Bambie's ass and the more bullets and the faster the |
IsItJustMe |
Oct-18-08 12:48 PM |
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So you like uneven odds when it comes to shooting Bambie's ass? |
Lerrad |
Oct-18-08 03:47 PM |
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LOL Maybe I should have included the sarcasm icon. |
IsItJustMe |
Oct-19-08 09:27 AM |
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Does it make you a bad person? No, but... |
slackmaster |
Oct-19-08 10:35 AM |
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No, not a BAD person. (nt) |
SteveM |
Oct-20-08 04:49 PM |
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It's been said before, but a Thompson Sub Machine Gun is not an 'assault weapon'. |
AtheistCrusader |
Oct-20-08 01:30 PM |
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i don't understand your point ... |
shireen |
Oct-18-08 01:07 PM |
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"take out an entire herd of game or shred a deer, all using one round of ammo" |
beevul |
Oct-18-08 01:43 PM |
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my bad, used the wrong word in my post. |
shireen |
Oct-18-08 02:06 PM |
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Most states have limits on the capacity of magazines used during hunting |
slackmaster |
Oct-19-08 09:17 AM |
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so i looked up the meaning of "assault weapon" |
shireen |
Oct-18-08 02:49 PM |
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Thank you. |
beevul |
Oct-18-08 03:30 PM |
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How would "firepower" be described? |
tburnsten |
Oct-20-08 09:44 AM |
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No, it's any civilian self-loading rifle with a HANDGRIP THAT STICKS OUT. |
benEzra |
Oct-20-08 10:26 PM |
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Have you confused semi-auto rifles with full-auto rifles?... |
SteveM |
Oct-20-08 05:01 PM |
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"One round of ammo"? |
Iktomiwicasa |
Nov-16-08 10:51 AM |
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Do you ever think of anything besides guns!? I have never seen you post about anything else! |
PM7nj |
Oct-18-08 01:09 PM |
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Is this... Yes! It is! I see it: "Topic Forums: Guns"! Rest well. (nt) |
SteveM |
Oct-20-08 05:08 PM |
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If they go after guns, and the economy is still flat... Obama is looking at 1-term |
iiibbb |
Oct-18-08 01:13 PM |
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Delete-nt |
4themind |
Oct-18-08 02:03 PM |
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I fully agree with iiibbb in the post above. |
FORREST GRUMP |
Oct-20-08 02:29 PM |
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What is the point you are trying to make here? |
pirhana |
Oct-18-08 01:28 PM |
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The crime rate was dropping before the passage of the AWB |
iiibbb |
Oct-18-08 01:31 PM |
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They don't want to ban guns. |
pirhana |
Oct-18-08 01:37 PM |
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If he won TN and WV he would have won in spite of FL. He had said wanted to ban semiautos... |
iiibbb |
Oct-18-08 02:12 PM |
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Crime was already going down |
tburnsten |
Oct-20-08 09:47 AM |
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Ooh....another Jody thread to hide! Kewl. |
FrenchieCat |
Oct-18-08 01:30 PM |
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I haven't heard of Jody before |
vanderRock |
Oct-18-08 01:41 PM |
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jody threads are always anti-DU |
greenbriar |
Oct-18-08 01:52 PM |
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Pro-gun does not mean anti DU. They are "tolerated" because they are bringing up valid |
old mark |
Oct-18-08 02:17 PM |
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Sounds like greenbriar has a distorted view of what is and is not proper on DU |
slackmaster |
Oct-19-08 09:20 AM |
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I don't know why people who spell so badly are tolerated. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Oct-19-08 06:39 PM |
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"Anti-DU"? "Why are they tolerated"? Some folks have open minds. (nt) |
SteveM |
Oct-20-08 05:12 PM |
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Head On Down To The Gun Dungeon, If You Have The Stomach For It |
Paladin |
Oct-18-08 02:33 PM |
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We can't help it if you have a weak stomach. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Oct-19-08 06:40 PM |
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Vee vill not have dissent HERE! [crop slapping]. Who did dat poll? |
SteveM |
Oct-20-08 05:15 PM |
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Biden is not running for president |
CreekDog |
Oct-18-08 01:33 PM |
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free clue |
Tejas |
Oct-20-08 09:25 PM |
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Are assault weapons always automatic? |
anonymous171 |
Oct-18-08 01:34 PM |
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Actually... |
beevul |
Oct-18-08 01:47 PM |
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There is a specific definition for "Assault Rifle" - it has a magazine |
old mark |
Oct-18-08 02:13 PM |
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Indeed. The main "problem" many have with the semi auto "assault rifle" is how it looks. |
TexasObserver |
Oct-18-08 02:34 PM |
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And It's The Appearance Of The AR-15 That Makes You Want One So Bad |
Paladin |
Oct-18-08 02:49 PM |
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There are two kinds of gun nuts, and both are wrong. |
TexasObserver |
Oct-18-08 03:42 PM |
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Do you "settle for whatever the New York 'Times' says" about Iraq? On a "given day"? |
SteveM |
Oct-20-08 05:21 PM |
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You just hate them because they are black. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Oct-24-08 08:22 PM |
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"Assault weapons" are never fully automatic |
dmesg |
Oct-18-08 02:30 PM |
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No, never automatic |
slackmaster |
Oct-19-08 09:21 AM |
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watch this video: anyone who is confused about the AWB should watch it |
Endangered Specie |
Oct-19-08 11:38 AM |
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I don't think any of them are automatic |
tburnsten |
Oct-20-08 09:54 AM |
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This is one of the 2 issues you ever care about |
CreekDog |
Oct-18-08 01:40 PM |
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We NEED goading, time and again. Otherwise, why are you voting Obama? |
SteveM |
Oct-20-08 05:24 PM |
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If they would get on the right side of the issue it wouldn't be a problem. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Oct-24-08 08:19 PM |
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Maybe you should vote for McSame then |
TOJ |
Oct-18-08 01:43 PM |
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wish we could rec individual comments. This one is awesome |
greenbriar |
Oct-18-08 02:03 PM |
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Awsome in its stupidity. nt |
old mark |
Oct-18-08 02:19 PM |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Oct-18-08 03:09 PM |
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Firearms actually do make sound investments if you choose them carefully and take care of them |
slackmaster |
Oct-19-08 09:26 AM |
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You probably shouldn't encourage people to vote for McCain. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Oct-19-08 06:38 PM |
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It is unfortunate... |
beevul |
Oct-18-08 01:52 PM |
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The actor Dorn (Starwars, Next Generation) owns and operates a Sabre fighter (nt) |
SteveM |
Oct-20-08 05:30 PM |
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Please GOTV, CANVASS, VOTE, PHONEBANK, DONATE for Obama - a public service anouncement =) |
asSEENonTV |
Oct-18-08 01:54 PM |
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Is this a deal breaker for you or what because you still get to keep your guns |
chimpsrsmarter |
Oct-18-08 01:56 PM |
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Are there people so obtuse to make gun ownership the one issue that determines their vote? |
SurferBoy |
Oct-18-08 02:12 PM |
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Yes, there are. |
beevul |
Oct-18-08 02:22 PM |
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You miss the point entirely... |
SteveM |
Oct-20-08 05:37 PM |
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As you should know, reasonable restrictions on gun ownership ARE constitutional. |
TexasObserver |
Oct-18-08 02:24 PM |
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What do fully automatic weapons have to do with this discussion? |
beevul |
Oct-18-08 02:34 PM |
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Supreme Court opinions, not YOUR opinion, matter. |
TexasObserver |
Oct-18-08 02:38 PM |
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Wait a minute... |
beevul |
Oct-18-08 03:11 PM |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Oct-18-08 03:35 PM |
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I think we may be misunderstanding each other here. |
beevul |
Oct-18-08 04:00 PM |
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Cool. We agree on substance. |
TexasObserver |
Oct-18-08 04:32 PM |
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Indeed we do. |
beevul |
Oct-18-08 04:55 PM |
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Umm, not good enough. Give us your arguments (nt) |
SteveM |
Oct-20-08 05:42 PM |
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TexasObserver either you did not read the cited article or you didn't understand it. Biden said he |
jody |
Oct-18-08 04:10 PM |
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I don't agree with Biden on this, and wish he'd stop talking about it. |
TexasObserver |
Oct-18-08 04:37 PM |
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We agree. Still Biden sponsors S.2237 and 67 Democratic congresspersons sponsor H.R. 1022. It is |
jody |
Oct-18-08 06:58 PM |
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ten minutes prior to general election and EVERY little interest group has a cow |
crankychatter |
Oct-18-08 02:36 PM |
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Possibly, however... |
beevul |
Oct-18-08 02:42 PM |
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Who cares? People are living in "tent cities," jobs gone, savings |
kenzee13 |
Oct-18-08 02:45 PM |
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So, how do you feel about the proposed Assault Weapon Ban? |
SteveM |
Oct-20-08 05:49 PM |
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I think that most people who aren't gun aficionados view assault weapons as |
gateley |
Oct-18-08 02:49 PM |
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You are essentially correct. |
beevul |
Oct-18-08 03:48 PM |
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insane. you not biden. nt |
lionesspriyanka |
Oct-18-08 03:32 PM |
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None of us are Biden. Nevertheless, on this issue Biden is wrong.(nt) |
SteveM |
Oct-20-08 05:54 PM |
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id be happy if biden stopped talking about guns, marriage and abortion. |
Essene |
Oct-18-08 03:33 PM |
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i'd be happy is people cared little for dumb social issues and guns |
Jennicut |
Oct-18-08 03:36 PM |
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I agree. n/t |
jody |
Oct-18-08 03:56 PM |
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Criminy. Every time we get close to an election, the special-interest wankers start whining. |
Occam Bandage |
Oct-18-08 03:35 PM |
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Yup. I decided my special interest is goats |
Jennicut |
Oct-18-08 03:41 PM |
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Viva La Chevre!!!! |
SurferBoy |
Oct-18-08 03:53 PM |
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Yeah, I wish the gun-control goats would vacate, don't you? (nt) |
SteveM |
Oct-20-08 05:57 PM |
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imo giving up assault weapons (and SUVs) for the greater good is patriotic. |
polichick |
Oct-18-08 03:40 PM |
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You are entitled to your oppinion |
bossy22 |
Oct-18-08 04:50 PM |
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let me know how you feel about that when they drag you |
ArmedAmerican |
Oct-18-08 05:03 PM |
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You have your "patriotism," I have my guns. Fair enough (nt) |
SteveM |
Oct-20-08 05:59 PM |
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What greater good? |
benEzra |
Oct-21-08 10:41 AM |
#159 |
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This always reminds me of the song Mark Of The Male by the Residents. |
Forkboy |
Oct-18-08 03:54 PM |
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Usually "penis-obsessed posters" start early. Where ya been?... |
SteveM |
Oct-20-08 06:04 PM |
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So somebody just answer me straight. Are semi-automatic rifles *totally* banned or not? |
elkston |
Oct-18-08 04:11 PM |
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The answer is no. |
beevul |
Oct-18-08 04:43 PM |
#92 |
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to answer your question straight |
bossy22 |
Oct-18-08 04:47 PM |
#94 |
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JA3 will be out in a few short months! |
tburnsten |
Oct-20-08 10:45 AM |
#131 |
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look good, feel good.. |
Pavulon |
Nov-16-08 11:02 AM |
#166 |
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Biden is quite a talker. |
Hangingon |
Oct-18-08 04:44 PM |
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We are two Democrats who voted against gun control,” -- Joe Biden |
aikoaiko |
Oct-18-08 07:22 PM |
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OnTheIissues does not report Biden as voting against gun-control bills. |
jody |
Oct-18-08 07:38 PM |
#102 |
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Sure, ban assault weapons....... |
wartrace |
Oct-18-08 09:28 PM |
#103 |
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How can he just lie like that? |
JoeyMac |
Oct-19-08 09:45 AM |
#111 |
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hes not necessarily lying |
bossy22 |
Oct-19-08 05:37 PM |
#116 |
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hey, he's a Democrat |
iverglas |
Oct-19-08 08:03 PM |
#122 |
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where's that pooper scooper? |
iverglas |
Oct-19-08 07:56 PM |
#121 |
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Up there on No. 85. How are you and yours doing? |
SteveM |
Oct-20-08 06:12 PM |
#151 |
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hmm |
iverglas |
Oct-20-08 07:45 PM |
#152 |
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Yeah, political correctness ain't what it used to be... |
SteveM |
Oct-20-08 08:10 PM |
#153 |
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actually |
iverglas |
Oct-20-08 08:32 PM |
#154 |
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HAHA, flamethrowers are not guns at all, and neither are bazookas! |
tburnsten |
Oct-20-08 08:35 AM |
#123 |
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Is anyone really surprised that Biden would say this? |
derby378 |
Oct-21-08 09:24 AM |
#158 |
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An unfortunate duo |
raimius |
Oct-27-08 03:13 AM |
#164 |
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