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TPaine7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-26-08 06:48 PM
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28. The Framers of the 14th Amendment
Emphatically and unambiguously intended that the individual's Second Amendment rights be enforceable against the states. It was their stated goal.

"Local control," if it means continued defiance of the Second Amendment right to keep and bear arms, cannot stand. The Second will be incorporated, or the Court will avoid the issue or lie.
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  -Obama's Response to Heller TPaine7  Jun-25-08 09:28 PM   #0 
  - He should tell the truth about what he thinks. Wouldn't THAT  rateyes   Jun-25-08 10:01 PM   #1 
  - Indeed.  TPaine7   Jun-25-08 11:58 PM   #6 
     - Silence as an honorable alternative?  tburnsten   Jun-26-08 05:05 PM   #22 
  - choice 4 gets him the gun vote......  Boomer 50   Jun-25-08 10:01 PM   #2 
  - He'll never get the right-wing gun vote  MyRV9   Jun-26-08 03:00 PM   #18 
     - yes he is.....  Boomer 50   Jun-26-08 03:30 PM   #20 
        - True n/t  MyRV9   Jun-26-08 09:26 PM   #30 
  - He should get elected president.  damntexdem   Jun-25-08 10:11 PM   #3 
  - Yet, he will face this issue and must respond (nt)  SteveM   Jun-26-08 08:56 AM   #9 
  - Thomas, good post...  Anexio   Jun-25-08 10:52 PM   #4 
  - I think it's weak, but only in the wrong context.  TPaine7   Jun-25-08 11:55 PM   #5 
     - Remember this...  57_TomCat   Jun-26-08 05:15 PM   #24 
  - If it's part of a general pattern of ducking and compromising...  TPaine7   Jun-26-08 12:55 AM   #7 
  - Saw this thread title and  AtheistCrusader   Jun-26-08 01:47 AM   #8 
  - You'll be getting a visit soon. That *was* super duper top secret!  TPaine7   Jun-26-08 01:06 PM   #13 
  - Option 4 is looking better.  TPaine7   Jun-26-08 10:31 AM   #10 
  - 5) Praise the court's decision AND start sponsoring bills to strike existing gun laws.  SlipperySlope   Jun-26-08 10:41 AM   #11 
  - I would like to see a full conversion, but  TPaine7   Jun-26-08 01:09 PM   #15 
  - #2 is the safest course of action.  gorfle   Jun-26-08 12:53 PM   #12 
  - 5-4 will keep the issue in play.  TPaine7   Jun-26-08 01:07 PM   #14 
  - Obama has to recant his former NAY vote on S.397 recognizing the 2nd protected an individual right.  jody   Jun-26-08 01:23 PM   #16 
  - Here is his first cut  TPaine7   Jun-26-08 02:13 PM   #17 
  - I hope Obama does not use that approach. n/t  jody   Jun-26-08 05:12 PM   #23 
  - Obama has limited dancing space  TPaine7   Jun-26-08 03:03 PM   #19 
  - Obama straddles issue  Wickerman   Jun-26-08 04:46 PM   #21 
     - Obama has a challenge trying to appease pro-gun and anti-gun communities. IMO Heller, such as it was  jody   Jun-26-08 05:21 PM   #25 
        - I think he offers such statements in light of his often stated belief in  Wickerman   Jun-26-08 06:06 PM   #26 
           - Local control, i.e. states rights is the position Scalia took in a statement I once read and Thomas  jody   Jun-26-08 06:13 PM   #27 
           - I believe you are correct  Wickerman   Jun-26-08 07:57 PM   #29 
           - The Framers of the 14th Amendment  TPaine7   Jun-26-08 06:48 PM   #28 
 

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