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TPaine7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 11:55 PM
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5. I think it's weak, but only in the wrong context.
I think Obama should come out more strongly on "controversial" positions. I think he let McCain steal some of his thunder on energy. He also could have tried to rally House Democrats on spying immunity. (He still may make a strong stand in the Senate.) He appeared to let McCain cower him on visiting Iraq.

Heller is big and important--historical. I think I recall Obama dodging detailed Second Amendment comments in part based on a pending SC case. Option 2 is ok--and can even be strong--in a confident candidate who picks his battles. It is weak in a candidate who avoids conflict consistently or whose convictions are not firmly held.

I would really like to see Obama crush Bush in the telecom battle. If you can't defeat Bush with his (dis)approval ratings, just how strong are you? I want to see a no-holds barred defense of the Constitution--straight up and down vote, kill it in committee, filibuster, whatever. I don't really care, just crush him and his accomplices. Then silent acquiescence to Heller would be more palatable.

Just my humble opinion.
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  -Obama's Response to Heller TPaine7  Jun-25-08 09:28 PM   #0 
  - He should tell the truth about what he thinks. Wouldn't THAT  rateyes   Jun-25-08 10:01 PM   #1 
  - Indeed.  TPaine7   Jun-25-08 11:58 PM   #6 
     - Silence as an honorable alternative?  tburnsten   Jun-26-08 05:05 PM   #22 
  - choice 4 gets him the gun vote......  Boomer 50   Jun-25-08 10:01 PM   #2 
  - He'll never get the right-wing gun vote  MyRV9   Jun-26-08 03:00 PM   #18 
     - yes he is.....  Boomer 50   Jun-26-08 03:30 PM   #20 
        - True n/t  MyRV9   Jun-26-08 09:26 PM   #30 
  - He should get elected president.  damntexdem   Jun-25-08 10:11 PM   #3 
  - Yet, he will face this issue and must respond (nt)  SteveM   Jun-26-08 08:56 AM   #9 
  - Thomas, good post...  Anexio   Jun-25-08 10:52 PM   #4 
  - I think it's weak, but only in the wrong context.  TPaine7   Jun-25-08 11:55 PM   #5 
     - Remember this...  57_TomCat   Jun-26-08 05:15 PM   #24 
  - If it's part of a general pattern of ducking and compromising...  TPaine7   Jun-26-08 12:55 AM   #7 
  - Saw this thread title and  AtheistCrusader   Jun-26-08 01:47 AM   #8 
  - You'll be getting a visit soon. That *was* super duper top secret!  TPaine7   Jun-26-08 01:06 PM   #13 
  - Option 4 is looking better.  TPaine7   Jun-26-08 10:31 AM   #10 
  - 5) Praise the court's decision AND start sponsoring bills to strike existing gun laws.  SlipperySlope   Jun-26-08 10:41 AM   #11 
  - I would like to see a full conversion, but  TPaine7   Jun-26-08 01:09 PM   #15 
  - #2 is the safest course of action.  gorfle   Jun-26-08 12:53 PM   #12 
  - 5-4 will keep the issue in play.  TPaine7   Jun-26-08 01:07 PM   #14 
  - Obama has to recant his former NAY vote on S.397 recognizing the 2nd protected an individual right.  jody   Jun-26-08 01:23 PM   #16 
  - Here is his first cut  TPaine7   Jun-26-08 02:13 PM   #17 
  - I hope Obama does not use that approach. n/t  jody   Jun-26-08 05:12 PM   #23 
  - Obama has limited dancing space  TPaine7   Jun-26-08 03:03 PM   #19 
  - Obama straddles issue  Wickerman   Jun-26-08 04:46 PM   #21 
     - Obama has a challenge trying to appease pro-gun and anti-gun communities. IMO Heller, such as it was  jody   Jun-26-08 05:21 PM   #25 
        - I think he offers such statements in light of his often stated belief in  Wickerman   Jun-26-08 06:06 PM   #26 
           - Local control, i.e. states rights is the position Scalia took in a statement I once read and Thomas  jody   Jun-26-08 06:13 PM   #27 
           - I believe you are correct  Wickerman   Jun-26-08 07:57 PM   #29 
           - The Framers of the 14th Amendment  TPaine7   Jun-26-08 06:48 PM   #28 

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