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bossy22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 11:02 AM
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13. hmm...
you probably realize that there are many other forms of violent crime that do not require use of a gun, right?

there is a park in the bad area of my town where a couple of my friends were mugged at "crowbar point" (aka a group of youths with crowbars and axes)...when i walk down streets at night i do not fear getting shot- i fear getting assaulted or stabbed- because both are much more common than getting shot.

you do not need a firearm to terrorize or kill a person.
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  - liberals carry guns? old mark  May-28-08 04:07 AM   #0 
  - Good website!  Lasher   May-28-08 04:11 AM   #1 
  - Hell yeah we're packin' heat...nt  and-justice-for-all   May-28-08 04:12 AM   #2 
  - Wonder what polls would say  cyclezealot   May-28-08 04:21 AM   #3 
  - hmm...  bossy22   May-28-08 11:02 AM   #13 
  - Location, location, location...  dairydog91   Oct-13-08 07:10 PM   #65 
  - Mike Malloy is a well armed liberal. I am not. To each their own.  chknltl   May-28-08 04:27 AM   #4 
  - I respect Eugene V. Debs.  cyclezealot   May-28-08 04:52 AM   #5 
  - Somewhat of an ass for his statement. imo  chknltl   May-28-08 05:25 AM   #6 
     - RE. Debs.  cyclezealot   May-28-08 05:31 AM   #7 
        - I had no idea who authored those words.That was then, this is now.  chknltl   May-28-08 06:26 AM   #8 
           - trying to excuse the thinking of the era  cyclezealot   May-28-08 06:32 AM   #9 
  - Uhh.....  virginia mountainman   May-28-08 07:35 AM   #10 
  - American pacifists don't understand Gandhi's practicality (nt)  SteveM   May-28-08 11:00 AM   #12 
  - UHHHH: So I should live WHOSE life in America?  chknltl   May-28-08 04:45 PM   #19 
  - Actually...  virginia mountainman   May-28-08 09:40 PM   #35 
  - Then we can agree there...likely lotsa other places as well too.  chknltl   May-28-08 10:55 PM   #37 
  - Some notes on Gandhi...  SteveM   May-29-08 10:28 AM   #39 
  - damn, eh?  iverglas   May-28-08 05:39 PM   #21 
     - My little lady is well taken care off..  virginia mountainman   May-28-08 09:33 PM   #34 
     - A couple of answers.  Fire_Medic_Dave   May-28-08 10:24 PM   #36 
  - Here's one from "Ghandi (sic):"  SteveM   Oct-13-08 03:32 PM   #61 
  - "From the Oleg Volk Collection"  iverglas   May-28-08 10:48 AM   #11 
  - Since you mentioned Eleanor, didn't she pack? (nt)  SteveM   May-28-08 01:33 PM   #15 
     - that will have been the point of what I quoted  iverglas   May-28-08 01:39 PM   #16 
     - She owned and carried a large revolver  old mark   Jun-26-08 12:14 PM   #44 
  - Don't forget Gun-toting Liberals...  SteveM   May-28-08 01:32 PM   #14 
  - Bottom line,  TPaine7   May-28-08 02:33 PM   #17 
  - pretending  iverglas   May-28-08 03:49 PM   #18 
     - A good many Constitutional lawyers disagree with you.  Fire_Medic_Dave   May-28-08 05:32 PM   #20 
     - who cares what any "pro-gun person" says?  iverglas   May-28-08 05:44 PM   #22 
        - I'm pretty sure you just argued it as a collective right.  Fire_Medic_Dave   May-28-08 06:01 PM   #23 
           - you're wrong  iverglas   May-28-08 06:21 PM   #24 
              - I don't seem to be.  Fire_Medic_Dave   May-28-08 07:14 PM   #28 
                 - honest discourse ... too much to expect  iverglas   May-28-08 07:34 PM   #29 
                    - Nice post. And might impact our discussion below on "collective enterprise"  jmg257   May-28-08 07:43 PM   #30 
                    - I figure DC should have hired me  iverglas   May-28-08 08:09 PM   #31 
                       - They could have used you.  jmg257   May-28-08 08:33 PM   #33 
                       - I thought this was hilarious then.  TPaine7   Jun-26-08 05:36 PM   #51 
                    - Thanks for the explanation.  Fire_Medic_Dave   May-28-08 08:20 PM   #32 
     - Compared to "bear arms for the defence of themselves..."  jmg257   May-28-08 06:23 PM   #25 
     - gee, I must have missed something  iverglas   May-28-08 07:01 PM   #26 
        - You would be correct - it is NOT the 2nd amendment which is quoted.  jmg257   May-28-08 07:08 PM   #27 
        - "Bear arms" in US constitutions explicitly means individual AND collective all the way back to 1776.  benEzra   May-29-08 11:03 AM   #40 
     - Let's start another thread, to avoid totally hijacking this one.  TPaine7   May-28-08 11:34 PM   #38 
     - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Jun-26-08 11:52 AM   #41 
     - Go read the opinion. You obviously haven't.  MyRV9   Jun-26-08 12:07 PM   #42 
        - Not that I'm defending iverglas, perish the thought  TPaine7   Jun-26-08 12:13 PM   #43 
        - Since she is not a US resident, or citizen, it is moot  old mark   Jun-26-08 12:15 PM   #45 
        - Oops!  MyRV9   Jun-26-08 12:26 PM   #46 
        - well hey, y'all feel free to apologize now, y'hear?  iverglas   Jun-26-08 04:53 PM   #47 
        - LOL  TPaine7   Jun-26-08 05:22 PM   #49 
        - go read post 29  iverglas   Jun-26-08 05:01 PM   #48 
        - I was replying...  MyRV9   Jun-26-08 05:33 PM   #50 
           - She said "collective enterprise"  TPaine7   Jun-26-08 05:51 PM   #52 
           - indeed you were  iverglas   Jun-26-08 06:19 PM   #53 
              - If the founders...  MyRV9   Jun-26-08 09:19 PM   #54 
        - I would have so loved to continue the conversation  iverglas   Oct-13-08 06:10 PM   #64 
           - Is it okay to gloat about these?  Fire_Medic_Dave   Oct-13-08 08:41 PM   #66 
  - Liberals carry guns?  MullenBank   Jun-28-08 11:05 AM   #55 
  - Me, too. nt  old mark   Oct-14-08 10:24 AM   #67 
     - ya really gotta watch out  iverglas   Oct-14-08 11:14 AM   #68 
  - Cool site, thanks for posting the link.  New Dawn   Jun-29-08 05:24 PM   #56 
  - Every day I have to make up my mind  tburnsten   Jun-30-08 01:16 PM   #57 
  - Thankfully  F2XL   Oct-12-08 02:40 PM   #58 
     - Welcome to DU, F2XL  aikoaiko   Oct-12-08 04:02 PM   #59 
     - aww, I was too late, myself  iverglas   Oct-13-08 12:41 PM   #60 
     - 15 posts and a pro gun post. Congratulations!  old mark   Oct-13-08 03:45 PM   #62 
        - 15 posts and a tombstone  iverglas   Oct-13-08 06:09 PM   #63 
 

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