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136. BTW, here's more than two. Now what do you have to say zanne?

"We must get rid of all the guns."
--Sarah Brady, speaking on behalf of Handgun Control Inc Phil Donahue Show, September 1994 --- with Sheriff Jay Printz & others

"No, we are not looking at how to control criminals, we are talking about banning the AK47 and semi-automatic guns!"
-- Senator Metzenbaum (D-OH), during the Constitution Subcommittee of 2/10/89

"Sir, we're not hiding behind anything. We ... we endorse a handgun ban. I will tell you that right now. We absolutely endorse that ban..."
--Susan Glick, of the Violence Policy Center in Washington D.C.; in response to a caller's comments during the radio talk show "Front Page", hosted by Sue Wiley, on WVLK Radio 590 am, in Lexington, Kentucky on December 3, 1997
Caller Mark: "Now you're saying that's what your ultimate goal is..."
Glick: "That's right, and we are absolutely vocal about it...,,

" ...should be outlawed. Our organization will probably take this stand in time but we are not anxious to rouse the opposition before we get the other legislation passed."
-- Elliot Corbett, Secretary, National Council For A Responsible Firearms Policy (interview appeared in the Washington Evening Star on September 19, 1969).

"If I could have gotten 51 votes in the Senate of the United States for an_out_right_ban, picking up every one of them... 'Mr. and Mrs. America, turn 'em all in,' I would have done it."
-- Senator Dianne Feinstein, CBS 60 Minutes, February 5, 1995

I'm convinced that we have to have federal legislation to build on. Our ultimate goal -- total control of handguns in the United States -- is going to take time. My estimate is from seven to ten years. The problem is to slow down the increasing number of handguns sold in this country. The second problem is to get them all registered. And the final problem is to make the possession of *all* handguns and *all* handgun ammunition -- except for the military, policemen, licensed security guards, licensed sporting clubs, and licensed gun collectors -- totally illegal."
-- Nelson T. "Pete" Shields; Chairman, HCI "A Reporter At Large: Handguns", _The New Yorker_, July 26, 1976, 57-58

"Our goal is to not allow anybody to buy a handgun. In the meantime, we think there ought to be strict licensing and regulation. Ultimately, that may mean it would require court approval to buy a handgun."
-- Michael K. Beard, President of the Coalition to Stop Gun Violence

"...I don't believe gun owners have rights."
(Sarah Brady, Chairman, Handgun Control, Incorporated, from the Hearst Newspapers Special Report, "Handguns in America" October 1997)

"I do not believe in people owning guns. Guns should be owned only by police and military. I am going to do everything I can to disarm this state."
-Michael Dukakis, 1986

"There is no reason for anyone in this country, anyone except a police officer or a military person, to buy, to own, to have, to use a handgun....And the only way to do that is to change the Constitution."
-Michael Gartner, 1992 in USA Today

"The second article of amendment to the Constitution of the United States is repealed."
H. J. Res. 438 Introduced by Rep. Major Owens, 1992

"To Hell with the Constitution..."
California Assemblyman Mike Roos, 1989 On the constitutionality of the Roberti-Roos assault weapons ban.

"We believe that if any gun dealer, manufacturer, or gun owners wants to test the law in court, they should be given every opportunity. Arrest them. Put the burden on them to prove the law is too vague."
-Louis Tolley, 1991 On HCI's position concerning the Roberti-Roos assault weapons ban.

"Whatever right the Second Amendment protects is not as important as it was 200 years ago.... deconstitutionalize the subject by repealing the embarrassing Amendment."
-George Will, 1991

"There is no reason for anyone in this country, for anyone except a police officer or a military person, to buy, to own, to have, to use, a handgun. The only way to control handgun use in this country is to prohibit the guns. And the only way to do that is to change the constitution."
-NBC News president, Michael Gartner, USA Today, 1/16/1992

"Assault weapons... are a new topic. The weapons' menacing looks, coupled with the public's confusion over fully-automatic machine guns versus semi-automatic assault weapons -- anything that looks like a machine gun is assumed to be a machine gun -- can only increase the chance of public support for restrictions on these weapons." -- "Assault Weapons: Analysis, New Research and Legislation" Josh Sugarmann, March 1989

"Banning guns addresses a fundamental right of Americans to feel safe." -- U.S. Senator Diane Feinstein, quoted by AP, 11/18/93

"Until we can ban all of them , then we might as well ban none." -- U.S. Senator Howard Metzenbaum, Senate Hearings 1993

"We're here to tell the NRA their nightmare is true..." -- U.S. Representative Charles Schumer, quoted on NBC, 11/30/93

"We're going to hammer guns on the anvil of relentless legislative strategy! We're going to beat guns into submission!" -- U.S. Representative Charles Schumer, quoted on NBC, 12/8/93

"My bill ... establishes a 6-month grace period for the turning in of all handguns." -- U.S. Representative Major Owens, Congressional Record, 11/10/93

"With a 10,000% tax we could tax them out of existence." -- U.S. Senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan, Washington Post, 11/4/93

"If it were up to me we'd ban them all" -- U.S. Representative Mel Reynolds on CNN's Crossfire, 12/9/93

"We must be able to arrest people before they commit crimes. By registering guns and knowing who has them we can do that. ...If they have guns they are pretty likely to commit a crime." - -Vermont State Senator Mary Ann Carlson (uhhh, no)

Ann Richards, Governor of Texas, who admits carrying concealed pistol, but recently vetoed a bill that would have allowed other women (and men) in Texas to have the same means of self protection.

Anti-gun U.S. Senator Diane Feinstein -- who, while Mayor of San Francisco during a "handgun ban" PR stunt, ostentatiously turned in one handgun. And quietly kept her other one.

Anti-gun U.S. Senator Carol Moseley-Braun, a lawyer, who "doesn't know" whether her .22 caliber pistol is registered in Chicago, as required.

Anti-gun columnist Carl Rowan, used an illegal handgun to shoot a skinny- dipping teenager. He obtained the illegal pistol from his son, an FBI agent. (How come these anti-gunners all own guns. They should turn theirs in first, and put a big sign on their front door that says "This is a gun free home.")
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  -This guys says it better than I can... zanne  May-10-08 10:48 AM   #0 
  - The constitution-hating gun-grabbing psychopaths won't get mine.  coriolis   May-10-08 10:55 AM   #1 
  - C'mon Punkin....  zanne   May-10-08 11:05 AM   #2 
  - WAKE UP!!!!  Warpy   May-10-08 11:11 AM   #3 
  - It's a hysterical response to any mention of gun control...  zanne   May-10-08 11:20 AM   #4 
  - This is why we flip when we hear the words "gun control"...  radioburning   May-11-08 02:51 PM   #99 
  - So because these two people wanted to disarm the citizenry...  zanne   May-11-08 07:25 PM   #107 
     - And if an accident happens or some nutjob kills someone...  iiibbb   May-12-08 11:12 AM   #129 
     - There's a lot more than two, and "gun control" is, by their definition, the foot in the door.  radioburning   May-12-08 04:28 PM   #137 
  - What is the long-term goal of people like you, Zanne?  krispos42   May-11-08 04:47 PM   #102 
     - You have a rich fantasy life, kirspos.  zanne   May-11-08 07:54 PM   #112 
        - Why, yes, I do live a rich fantasy life  krispos42   May-12-08 12:13 AM   #122 
  - Not really.  Nabeshin   May-10-08 02:02 PM   #24 
  - I simply said nobody is getting my guns. You guys are the ones imagining death grips  coriolis   May-10-08 05:23 PM   #52 
     - "constitution-hating gun-grabbing psychopaths"  Warpy   May-10-08 05:34 PM   #54 
        - If the shoe fits, Skippy.  coriolis   May-10-08 05:39 PM   #55 
        - That's fine.  zanne   May-10-08 08:18 PM   #60 
           - I've followed the laws for 58 years.  coriolis   May-10-08 09:01 PM   #67 
              - I wrote a very polite post.  zanne   May-10-08 10:30 PM   #69 
        - You need to get out more  Tejas   May-11-08 02:24 PM   #98 
           - Are you calling me a psychopath?  zanne   May-11-08 07:55 PM   #113 
           - myself, I'd be wondering  iverglas   May-11-08 10:20 PM   #118 
           - and you need a dictionary  iverglas   May-11-08 10:26 PM   #119 
  - What'll you do if/when a SWAT team comes knocking on your door for your guns?  rdenney   May-13-08 04:49 AM   #145 
  - It is statements like yours which will cost Democratic votes  pipoman   May-10-08 11:22 AM   #5 
  - Majority in U.S. favors stricter gun control.  zanne   May-10-08 11:27 AM   #6 
  - Why aren't you a free trader? It is an official Democratic position..  pipoman   May-10-08 11:45 AM   #11 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   May-10-08 12:20 PM   #14 
     - That is your answer to any position you can't counter  pipoman   May-10-08 12:48 PM   #19 
        - Deleted message  Name removed   May-10-08 05:27 PM   #53 
  - That poll appears to be useless.  ManiacJoe   May-10-08 03:11 PM   #26 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   May-10-08 04:41 PM   #46 
     - Polls are only correct when properly conducted.  ManiacJoe   May-10-08 08:09 PM   #59 
        - Of course you know more about polls than the people at Harris do.  zanne   May-10-08 08:20 PM   #61 
           - Probably not.  ManiacJoe   May-10-08 08:34 PM   #64 
              - We're all good at that. nt  zanne   May-10-08 08:42 PM   #65 
                 - Glad I could help. (n/t)  ManiacJoe   May-10-08 08:47 PM   #66 
  - The majority opposes gay marriage. Should we govern by what's popular?  Fire_Medic_Dave   May-10-08 06:24 PM   #57 
  - Majority in U.S. couldn't find Iraq on a globe...  radioburning   May-11-08 03:07 PM   #100 
  - Interesting poll. Thank you for posting.  krispos42   May-11-08 05:17 PM   #106 
  - They still believe that most people like firearms, but they are wrong, as usual.  rdenney   May-13-08 04:52 AM   #146 
  - So  Beregond2   May-10-08 11:28 AM   #7 
     - You know better than that. Don't play dumb.  zanne   May-10-08 11:37 AM   #10 
        - But  Beregond2   May-10-08 01:31 PM   #23 
           - Deleted message  Name removed   May-10-08 02:51 PM   #25 
  - you, who quotes the (anti-), actually has the nerve to talk about "false info"  aikoaiko   May-10-08 11:30 AM   #8 
  - Again; IT'S NOT ABOUT TAKING YOUR GUNS AWAY!  zanne   May-10-08 11:34 AM   #9 
     - it may not be taking our guns away  bossy22   May-10-08 12:02 PM   #13 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   May-10-08 12:25 PM   #15 
        - i truly believe they want outright bans on certain weapons  bossy22   May-10-08 12:32 PM   #17 
     - Don't be so disingenuous. When politicians stop talking about gun bans --- so will I and others  aikoaiko   May-10-08 12:26 PM   #16 
     - You, my friend, are not a "moderate".  zanne   May-10-08 12:50 PM   #20 
        - sensible?  bossy22   May-10-08 01:27 PM   #22 
        - Deleted message  Name removed   May-10-08 03:48 PM   #28 
        - i just want a straight answer  bossy22   May-10-08 04:07 PM   #34 
           - "Stricter" licensing?  derby378   May-11-08 10:16 AM   #94 
        - Disclaimer  bossy22   May-10-08 04:09 PM   #35 
        - Deleted message  Name removed   May-11-08 08:00 AM   #79 
           - You'd better have proof of that, my friend...  zanne   May-11-08 08:24 AM   #80 
              - If you are now saying you've never supported a gun ban of any type?  aikoaiko   May-11-08 08:29 AM   #81 
              - "Friend" is not an insult or accusation. "Liar" is.  zanne   May-11-08 09:16 AM   #86 
                 - Deleted message  Name removed   May-11-08 10:09 AM   #93 
              - Deleted message  Name removed   May-11-08 08:55 AM   #83 
                 - I clicked on the link...  zanne   May-11-08 09:12 AM   #85 
                    - Deleted message  Name removed   May-11-08 09:26 AM   #87 
                    - I have the correct Zanne  aikoaiko   May-11-08 09:28 AM   #88 
                       - That was my reply to someone who wanted to ban handguns!  zanne   May-11-08 09:41 AM   #89 
                       - No you weren't. Did you un-ignore the thead and read the OP to which you responded?  aikoaiko   May-11-08 10:06 AM   #91 
                          - crickets  maxidivine   May-14-08 12:16 PM   #156 
                       - Banning handguns would be impossible.  zanne   May-11-08 09:45 AM   #90 
                          - So, let's hear it from you Zanne, Are you against all gun bans?  aikoaiko   May-11-08 10:08 AM   #92 
                             - I don't want guns in National Parks and schools.  zanne   May-11-08 07:28 PM   #108 
                             - No, I'm not against ALLgun bans.  zanne   May-11-08 07:37 PM   #109 
                                - All I want is for you to tell the truth about your agenda so that we can have an honest discussion.  aikoaiko   May-11-08 08:36 PM   #115 
                                   - Now you can read my mind.  zanne   May-11-08 10:34 PM   #120 
                                      - I read your posts, not your mind.  aikoaiko   May-12-08 07:20 AM   #125 
                                      - It looks like you were right --calling someone who tells an untruth a liar is against the rules.  aikoaiko   May-12-08 10:49 AM   #128 
                                         - I've explained that post, sweetie...  zanne   May-12-08 11:19 AM   #130 
                                         - Of course some guns should be banned from civilian use.  zanne   May-13-08 04:08 AM   #144 
                                            - Just because they can....  ManiacJoe   May-13-08 01:19 PM   #147 
                                            - Maniac; If you don't agree with it, it's always "propaganda". nt  zanne   May-13-08 01:28 PM   #148 
                                               - I suppose I could get you a dictionary for your birthday.  ManiacJoe   May-13-08 01:32 PM   #149 
                                               - I have a shelf full of dictionaries, but thank you.  zanne   May-13-08 02:06 PM   #151 
                                               - I probably cannot help you with that. (n/t)  ManiacJoe   May-13-08 03:31 PM   #153 
                                               - I taught Remedial Reading for six years...  zanne   May-14-08 08:37 AM   #154 
                                               - Please adress the points of his post.  beevul   May-13-08 01:36 PM   #150 
                                            - Good luck  maxidivine   May-14-08 11:48 AM   #155 
     - because gun control is usually gun bans  bossy22   May-10-08 04:16 PM   #39 
     - So what is it about, Zanne?  gorfle   May-11-08 12:27 AM   #72 
     - Denounce ALL gun banning then.  beevul   May-11-08 12:29 PM   #95 
     - Again; IT IS! HERE'S PROOF!  radioburning   May-11-08 03:45 PM   #101 
     - Again! You're projecting because of two (that's 2) people.  zanne   May-11-08 08:32 PM   #114 
     - Denounce ALL gun banning then.  beevul   May-11-08 09:47 PM   #117 
     - How many examples do I have to give, exactly? Besides...  radioburning   May-12-08 02:44 PM   #134 
     - BTW, here's more than two. Now what do you have to say zanne?  radioburning   May-12-08 03:59 PM   #136 
        - Josh Sugarmann  maxidivine   May-14-08 12:46 PM   #157 
     - I remain curious  iverglas   May-12-08 11:25 AM   #131 
        - I'm not right-wing. I'm not a fundamentalist. And my head is NOT shaped like a gun!  radioburning   May-12-08 03:53 PM   #135 
           - well you do a fine imitation  iverglas   May-12-08 06:46 PM   #140 
           - Those are quotes from hand-written letters sent specifically to me...  radioburning   May-12-08 08:01 PM   #142 
              - woo  iverglas   May-12-08 08:30 PM   #143 
           - hey, ya just gotta laugh  iverglas   May-12-08 07:32 PM   #141 
     - Sure it is. That is why you don't mind it - & as much as you can get. We do.  jmg257   May-12-08 11:32 AM   #133 
     - Aparently it is...  beevul   May-13-08 02:20 PM   #152 
  - Please post examples of the false info.  Fire_Medic_Dave   May-10-08 11:52 AM   #12 
  - Is that the sound of crickets?  Fire_Medic_Dave   May-10-08 01:02 PM   #21 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   May-10-08 03:59 PM   #31 
  - i love it  bossy22   May-10-08 12:33 PM   #18 
  - you're getting there ;)  iverglas   May-10-08 03:35 PM   #27 
  - Don't you just love reading comments from angry people with guns?  zanne   May-10-08 03:56 PM   #29 
     - i love angry  bossy22   May-10-08 04:02 PM   #32 
     - I hate angry  Tejas   May-10-08 04:09 PM   #36 
        - ROAD RAGE!!!!!!  bossy22   May-10-08 04:17 PM   #40 
        - No, I don't rant against inananimate objects.  zanne   May-10-08 04:45 PM   #47 
           - since you want to play, you're incorrect again  Tejas   May-11-08 12:12 AM   #70 
     - No, we feel sorry for you  Tejas   May-10-08 04:05 PM   #33 
     - at least she seems to have read it  iverglas   May-10-08 04:15 PM   #38 
     - lame spin on the context (congrats, you again)  Tejas   May-11-08 12:26 AM   #71 
        - alrighty then, "incoherent" it was  iverglas   May-11-08 04:57 PM   #103 
     - Say what you want, but I don't respond to threats...  zanne   May-12-08 10:05 AM   #127 
     - Ouch! Stop! You're killing me!  zanne   May-10-08 04:41 PM   #44 
  - "decline in ownership" = Zanne promotes yet another fantasy  Tejas   May-10-08 03:56 PM   #30 
  - Actually Zanne might be right...  spin   May-10-08 04:34 PM   #41 
  - bizarre spin  iverglas   May-10-08 04:40 PM   #43 
     - i think you are probably  bossy22   May-10-08 04:41 PM   #45 
     - Wrong, Iverglas...  spin   May-10-08 04:55 PM   #51 
        - Of course you're right, since you've given us the statistics to back it up. nt  zanne   May-10-08 08:21 PM   #62 
        - When I checked the statistics, I found you were right...  spin   May-10-08 09:58 PM   #68 
        - oh, yes, well, then  iverglas   May-10-08 08:31 PM   #63 
  - interesting claim  iverglas   May-10-08 04:38 PM   #42 
  - They won't read it before they reply, Iverglas.  zanne   May-10-08 04:51 PM   #50 
  - Iverlas posted something that actually ...  spin   May-10-08 07:08 PM   #58 
     - You're quoting Tom Clancy...  zanne   May-11-08 10:40 PM   #121 
        - My quotes come from many sources...  spin   May-12-08 01:26 AM   #123 
  - sure, whatever you say, the DOJ & FBI & ATF all lied n/t  Tejas   May-11-08 12:29 AM   #73 
     - you shouldn't say such nasty things  iverglas   May-11-08 04:59 PM   #104 
  - Have you ever done something other than preach to the choir?  zanne   May-10-08 04:49 PM   #48 
  - Bahhhhhh  bossy22   May-10-08 04:50 PM   #49 
  - This forum is "full of sheep"?  Tejas   May-11-08 12:45 AM   #75 
     - When they get good and ready to stand up for themselves?  zanne   May-11-08 06:29 AM   #78 
        - Deleted message  Name removed   May-11-08 02:20 PM   #97 
           - I want you to apologize for the TWO ethnic slurs...  zanne   May-11-08 07:46 PM   #111 
              - Typical non-responsive dodge n/t  Tejas   May-12-08 05:33 AM   #124 
                 - You think you can abuse someone's nationality on DU?  zanne   May-12-08 07:54 AM   #126 
  - My math looks Canadian?  zanne   May-11-08 06:21 AM   #76 
     - What's that supposed to mean?  iverglas   May-11-08 05:00 PM   #105 
  - Both sides of the gun debate fuel contributions with  spin   May-10-08 04:14 PM   #37 
  - He was doing fine  Indy Lurker   May-10-08 06:15 PM   #56 
  - fine until the koolaid kicked in n/t  Tejas   May-11-08 12:31 AM   #74 
     - Nobody serves more Kool-Aid than the NRA...  zanne   May-11-08 06:24 AM   #77 
        - 80m gunowners but only 4m NRA members  Tejas   May-11-08 08:39 AM   #82 
        - Actually, the NRA is "missing" a million members...  zanne   May-11-08 08:47 PM   #116 
        - but but but  bossy22   May-11-08 09:05 AM   #84 
  - What a steaming load of crap  slackmaster   May-11-08 01:07 PM   #96 
  - I bet that what some of the German Jews thought when Hitler took the guns away.  Fire_Medic_Dave   May-11-08 07:39 PM   #110 
  - +1. I bet some German Jews eventually changed their views on gun bans...  radioburning   May-12-08 04:42 PM   #138 
  - So then no worries...our decline will take care of things.  jmg257   May-12-08 11:28 AM   #132 
  - If what Miller said was in the least bit true...  derby378   May-12-08 05:06 PM   #139 

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