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Sun May-11-08 10:06 AM
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| 91. No you weren't. Did you un-ignore the thead and read the OP to which you responded? |
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The post you responded to (see below) was saying that escalating gun control is not helping because it doesn't keep guns out of criminals' hands. You made the case (without a bit of sarcasm) that because illicit drug are illegal there are fewer of them, and that making handguns illegal would make for fewer of them. You cannot revise this history. Just admit you either lied or failed to remember what you wrote. Nabeshin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Fri Feb-08-08 11:27 AM Original message You can take guns away from law-abiding citizens, but not from these guys. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-HrucqUaaZE Take a good look at who's responsible for the thousands of yearly gun murders in the US. Mass shootings like Columbine and Virginia Tech can grab headlines, but those events are little more than statistical noise. The lion's share of firearm killings are committed by people like the guys in this video, usually because someone was muscling in on their drug turf, disrespecting them, or for some other reason incomprehensible to anyone with more emotional maturity than a 5-year-old. And you can bet that no one in this video purchased their firearms legally. Virtually all of them probably have felony records that would stop any legal purchase attempt cold. As long as you can get rich slinging dope, dealers will find a way to get the tools of the trade. The only way to shut these guys down for good is to legalize drugs, eliminating the source of the cash you see them waving around. But no one in Washington has the courage to come out and say that, so we're stuck with our high murder rate and escalating gun control laws that do nothing to change it. edited the header to clean it up
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| -This guys says it better than I can... |
zanne |
May-10-08 10:48 AM |
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The constitution-hating gun-grabbing psychopaths won't get mine. |
coriolis |
May-10-08 10:55 AM |
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C'mon Punkin.... |
zanne |
May-10-08 11:05 AM |
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WAKE UP!!!! |
Warpy |
May-10-08 11:11 AM |
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It's a hysterical response to any mention of gun control... |
zanne |
May-10-08 11:20 AM |
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This is why we flip when we hear the words "gun control"... |
radioburning |
May-11-08 02:51 PM |
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So because these two people wanted to disarm the citizenry... |
zanne |
May-11-08 07:25 PM |
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And if an accident happens or some nutjob kills someone... |
iiibbb |
May-12-08 11:12 AM |
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There's a lot more than two, and "gun control" is, by their definition, the foot in the door. |
radioburning |
May-12-08 04:28 PM |
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What is the long-term goal of people like you, Zanne? |
krispos42 |
May-11-08 04:47 PM |
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You have a rich fantasy life, kirspos. |
zanne |
May-11-08 07:54 PM |
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Why, yes, I do live a rich fantasy life |
krispos42 |
May-12-08 12:13 AM |
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Not really. |
Nabeshin |
May-10-08 02:02 PM |
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I simply said nobody is getting my guns. You guys are the ones imagining death grips |
coriolis |
May-10-08 05:23 PM |
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"constitution-hating gun-grabbing psychopaths" |
Warpy |
May-10-08 05:34 PM |
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If the shoe fits, Skippy. |
coriolis |
May-10-08 05:39 PM |
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That's fine. |
zanne |
May-10-08 08:18 PM |
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I've followed the laws for 58 years. |
coriolis |
May-10-08 09:01 PM |
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I wrote a very polite post. |
zanne |
May-10-08 10:30 PM |
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You need to get out more |
Tejas |
May-11-08 02:24 PM |
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Are you calling me a psychopath? |
zanne |
May-11-08 07:55 PM |
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myself, I'd be wondering |
iverglas |
May-11-08 10:20 PM |
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and you need a dictionary |
iverglas |
May-11-08 10:26 PM |
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What'll you do if/when a SWAT team comes knocking on your door for your guns? |
rdenney |
May-13-08 04:49 AM |
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It is statements like yours which will cost Democratic votes |
pipoman |
May-10-08 11:22 AM |
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Majority in U.S. favors stricter gun control. |
zanne |
May-10-08 11:27 AM |
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Why aren't you a free trader? It is an official Democratic position.. |
pipoman |
May-10-08 11:45 AM |
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May-10-08 12:20 PM |
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That is your answer to any position you can't counter |
pipoman |
May-10-08 12:48 PM |
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May-10-08 05:27 PM |
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That poll appears to be useless. |
ManiacJoe |
May-10-08 03:11 PM |
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May-10-08 04:41 PM |
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Polls are only correct when properly conducted. |
ManiacJoe |
May-10-08 08:09 PM |
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Of course you know more about polls than the people at Harris do. |
zanne |
May-10-08 08:20 PM |
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Probably not. |
ManiacJoe |
May-10-08 08:34 PM |
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We're all good at that. nt |
zanne |
May-10-08 08:42 PM |
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Glad I could help. (n/t) |
ManiacJoe |
May-10-08 08:47 PM |
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The majority opposes gay marriage. Should we govern by what's popular? |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
May-10-08 06:24 PM |
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Majority in U.S. couldn't find Iraq on a globe... |
radioburning |
May-11-08 03:07 PM |
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Interesting poll. Thank you for posting. |
krispos42 |
May-11-08 05:17 PM |
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They still believe that most people like firearms, but they are wrong, as usual. |
rdenney |
May-13-08 04:52 AM |
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So |
Beregond2 |
May-10-08 11:28 AM |
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You know better than that. Don't play dumb. |
zanne |
May-10-08 11:37 AM |
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But |
Beregond2 |
May-10-08 01:31 PM |
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May-10-08 02:51 PM |
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you, who quotes the (anti-)gunguys.com, actually has the nerve to talk about "false info" |
aikoaiko |
May-10-08 11:30 AM |
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Again; IT'S NOT ABOUT TAKING YOUR GUNS AWAY! |
zanne |
May-10-08 11:34 AM |
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it may not be taking our guns away |
bossy22 |
May-10-08 12:02 PM |
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May-10-08 12:25 PM |
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i truly believe they want outright bans on certain weapons |
bossy22 |
May-10-08 12:32 PM |
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Don't be so disingenuous. When politicians stop talking about gun bans --- so will I and others |
aikoaiko |
May-10-08 12:26 PM |
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You, my friend, are not a "moderate". |
zanne |
May-10-08 12:50 PM |
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sensible? |
bossy22 |
May-10-08 01:27 PM |
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May-10-08 03:48 PM |
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i just want a straight answer |
bossy22 |
May-10-08 04:07 PM |
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"Stricter" licensing? |
derby378 |
May-11-08 10:16 AM |
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Disclaimer |
bossy22 |
May-10-08 04:09 PM |
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May-11-08 08:00 AM |
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You'd better have proof of that, my friend... |
zanne |
May-11-08 08:24 AM |
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If you are now saying you've never supported a gun ban of any type? |
aikoaiko |
May-11-08 08:29 AM |
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"Friend" is not an insult or accusation. "Liar" is. |
zanne |
May-11-08 09:16 AM |
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May-11-08 10:09 AM |
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May-11-08 08:55 AM |
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I clicked on the link... |
zanne |
May-11-08 09:12 AM |
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May-11-08 09:26 AM |
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I have the correct Zanne |
aikoaiko |
May-11-08 09:28 AM |
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That was my reply to someone who wanted to ban handguns! |
zanne |
May-11-08 09:41 AM |
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No you weren't. Did you un-ignore the thead and read the OP to which you responded? |
aikoaiko |
May-11-08 10:06 AM |
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crickets |
maxidivine |
May-14-08 12:16 PM |
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Banning handguns would be impossible. |
zanne |
May-11-08 09:45 AM |
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So, let's hear it from you Zanne, Are you against all gun bans? |
aikoaiko |
May-11-08 10:08 AM |
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I don't want guns in National Parks and schools. |
zanne |
May-11-08 07:28 PM |
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No, I'm not against ALLgun bans. |
zanne |
May-11-08 07:37 PM |
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All I want is for you to tell the truth about your agenda so that we can have an honest discussion. |
aikoaiko |
May-11-08 08:36 PM |
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Now you can read my mind. |
zanne |
May-11-08 10:34 PM |
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I read your posts, not your mind. |
aikoaiko |
May-12-08 07:20 AM |
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It looks like you were right --calling someone who tells an untruth a liar is against the rules. |
aikoaiko |
May-12-08 10:49 AM |
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I've explained that post, sweetie... |
zanne |
May-12-08 11:19 AM |
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Of course some guns should be banned from civilian use. |
zanne |
May-13-08 04:08 AM |
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Just because they can.... |
ManiacJoe |
May-13-08 01:19 PM |
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Maniac; If you don't agree with it, it's always "propaganda". nt |
zanne |
May-13-08 01:28 PM |
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I suppose I could get you a dictionary for your birthday. |
ManiacJoe |
May-13-08 01:32 PM |
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I have a shelf full of dictionaries, but thank you. |
zanne |
May-13-08 02:06 PM |
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I probably cannot help you with that. (n/t) |
ManiacJoe |
May-13-08 03:31 PM |
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I taught Remedial Reading for six years... |
zanne |
May-14-08 08:37 AM |
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Please adress the points of his post. |
beevul |
May-13-08 01:36 PM |
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Good luck |
maxidivine |
May-14-08 11:48 AM |
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because gun control is usually gun bans |
bossy22 |
May-10-08 04:16 PM |
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So what is it about, Zanne? |
gorfle |
May-11-08 12:27 AM |
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Denounce ALL gun banning then. |
beevul |
May-11-08 12:29 PM |
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Again; IT IS! HERE'S PROOF! |
radioburning |
May-11-08 03:45 PM |
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Again! You're projecting because of two (that's 2) people. |
zanne |
May-11-08 08:32 PM |
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Denounce ALL gun banning then. |
beevul |
May-11-08 09:47 PM |
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How many examples do I have to give, exactly? Besides... |
radioburning |
May-12-08 02:44 PM |
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BTW, here's more than two. Now what do you have to say zanne? |
radioburning |
May-12-08 03:59 PM |
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Josh Sugarmann |
maxidivine |
May-14-08 12:46 PM |
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I remain curious |
iverglas |
May-12-08 11:25 AM |
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I'm not right-wing. I'm not a fundamentalist. And my head is NOT shaped like a gun! |
radioburning |
May-12-08 03:53 PM |
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well you do a fine imitation |
iverglas |
May-12-08 06:46 PM |
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Those are quotes from hand-written letters sent specifically to me... |
radioburning |
May-12-08 08:01 PM |
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woo |
iverglas |
May-12-08 08:30 PM |
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hey, ya just gotta laugh |
iverglas |
May-12-08 07:32 PM |
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Sure it is. That is why you don't mind it - & as much as you can get. We do. |
jmg257 |
May-12-08 11:32 AM |
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Aparently it is... |
beevul |
May-13-08 02:20 PM |
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Please post examples of the false info. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
May-10-08 11:52 AM |
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Is that the sound of crickets? |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
May-10-08 01:02 PM |
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May-10-08 03:59 PM |
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i love it |
bossy22 |
May-10-08 12:33 PM |
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you're getting there ;) |
iverglas |
May-10-08 03:35 PM |
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Don't you just love reading comments from angry people with guns? |
zanne |
May-10-08 03:56 PM |
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i love angry |
bossy22 |
May-10-08 04:02 PM |
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I hate angry |
Tejas |
May-10-08 04:09 PM |
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ROAD RAGE!!!!!! |
bossy22 |
May-10-08 04:17 PM |
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No, I don't rant against inananimate objects. |
zanne |
May-10-08 04:45 PM |
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since you want to play, you're incorrect again |
Tejas |
May-11-08 12:12 AM |
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No, we feel sorry for you |
Tejas |
May-10-08 04:05 PM |
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at least she seems to have read it |
iverglas |
May-10-08 04:15 PM |
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lame spin on the context (congrats, you again) |
Tejas |
May-11-08 12:26 AM |
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alrighty then, "incoherent" it was |
iverglas |
May-11-08 04:57 PM |
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Say what you want, but I don't respond to threats... |
zanne |
May-12-08 10:05 AM |
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Ouch! Stop! You're killing me! |
zanne |
May-10-08 04:41 PM |
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"decline in ownership" = Zanne promotes yet another fantasy |
Tejas |
May-10-08 03:56 PM |
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Actually Zanne might be right... |
spin |
May-10-08 04:34 PM |
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bizarre spin |
iverglas |
May-10-08 04:40 PM |
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i think you are probably |
bossy22 |
May-10-08 04:41 PM |
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Wrong, Iverglas... |
spin |
May-10-08 04:55 PM |
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Of course you're right, since you've given us the statistics to back it up. nt |
zanne |
May-10-08 08:21 PM |
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When I checked the statistics, I found you were right... |
spin |
May-10-08 09:58 PM |
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oh, yes, well, then |
iverglas |
May-10-08 08:31 PM |
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interesting claim |
iverglas |
May-10-08 04:38 PM |
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They won't read it before they reply, Iverglas. |
zanne |
May-10-08 04:51 PM |
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Iverlas posted something that actually ... |
spin |
May-10-08 07:08 PM |
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You're quoting Tom Clancy... |
zanne |
May-11-08 10:40 PM |
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My quotes come from many sources... |
spin |
May-12-08 01:26 AM |
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sure, whatever you say, the DOJ & FBI & ATF all lied n/t |
Tejas |
May-11-08 12:29 AM |
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you shouldn't say such nasty things |
iverglas |
May-11-08 04:59 PM |
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Have you ever done something other than preach to the choir? |
zanne |
May-10-08 04:49 PM |
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Bahhhhhh |
bossy22 |
May-10-08 04:50 PM |
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This forum is "full of sheep"? |
Tejas |
May-11-08 12:45 AM |
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When they get good and ready to stand up for themselves? |
zanne |
May-11-08 06:29 AM |
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May-11-08 02:20 PM |
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I want you to apologize for the TWO ethnic slurs... |
zanne |
May-11-08 07:46 PM |
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Typical non-responsive dodge n/t |
Tejas |
May-12-08 05:33 AM |
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You think you can abuse someone's nationality on DU? |
zanne |
May-12-08 07:54 AM |
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My math looks Canadian? |
zanne |
May-11-08 06:21 AM |
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What's that supposed to mean? |
iverglas |
May-11-08 05:00 PM |
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Both sides of the gun debate fuel contributions with |
spin |
May-10-08 04:14 PM |
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He was doing fine |
Indy Lurker |
May-10-08 06:15 PM |
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fine until the koolaid kicked in n/t |
Tejas |
May-11-08 12:31 AM |
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Nobody serves more Kool-Aid than the NRA... |
zanne |
May-11-08 06:24 AM |
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80m gunowners but only 4m NRA members |
Tejas |
May-11-08 08:39 AM |
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Actually, the NRA is "missing" a million members... |
zanne |
May-11-08 08:47 PM |
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but but but |
bossy22 |
May-11-08 09:05 AM |
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What a steaming load of crap |
slackmaster |
May-11-08 01:07 PM |
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I bet that what some of the German Jews thought when Hitler took the guns away. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
May-11-08 07:39 PM |
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+1. I bet some German Jews eventually changed their views on gun bans... |
radioburning |
May-12-08 04:42 PM |
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So then no worries...our decline will take care of things. |
jmg257 |
May-12-08 11:28 AM |
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If what Miller said was in the least bit true... |
derby378 |
May-12-08 05:06 PM |
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