Callisto32
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Sun Apr-20-08 10:50 PM
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I have a hammer in my toolbox right now. It is currently not being used for any specific purpose. It is a tool that I have around since, someday, I may need it to pound a nail back into a door jamb, or whatever. Does that cause it to cease being a tool whenever it is not being used in an attempt to complete a specific task. I don't think it does.
Yes, it "seeeemed" that way. That is why I chose the word "Seems" and indicated that I could be reading it wrong. Apparently, I was.
I know my comment about my personal acquaintances is not scientific evidence of anything. It is what it is, just a statement of personal experience.
You don't have to insult me based on my level of education. I am where I am in my life. Besides, even if I came back with an alphabet's worth of letters in front of, behind, in between, wherever in my name would that matter?
When I referred to the "gun groups" (a sloppy choice of words, to be sure) I was not referring to those in the study, but rather your classifications of "hunters" and "promenaders" (which I addressed as doing the opposite of promenading). What I meant was that these two groups (based on the assumption that both are using firearms as tools) do, actually, have something in common that does not exist between the two dog groups and two car groups. If you choose not to view preparation for armed response to a violent attack as a legitimate criterion for classifying a personal firearm as a tool, as you have indicated you do, I can see how you would disagree.
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mvccd1000 |
Apr-20-08 06:33 AM |
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Let the anti-gun spin begin... |
TPaine7 |
Apr-20-08 06:48 AM |
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gee, I wonder |
iverglas |
Apr-20-08 05:17 PM |
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Your point? |
TPaine7 |
Apr-20-08 07:09 PM |
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pretty obvious, I think |
iverglas |
Apr-20-08 08:54 PM |
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I'm glad you admitted the stereotypes were false. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Apr-20-08 09:21 PM |
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I'm glad you're enjoying your visit to planet earth. |
iverglas |
Apr-20-08 09:34 PM |
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Your obvious point |
TPaine7 |
Apr-20-08 09:38 PM |
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I have to disagree with your analogy |
Callisto32 |
Apr-20-08 09:58 PM |
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tool indeed ... |
iverglas |
Apr-20-08 10:24 PM |
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Okay... |
Callisto32 |
Apr-20-08 10:50 PM |
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sighhh |
iverglas |
Apr-20-08 11:05 PM |
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Please respond to my points in the post, |
Callisto32 |
Apr-20-08 11:15 PM |
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you cite your experience |
iverglas |
Apr-20-08 11:22 PM |
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Agreed |
Callisto32 |
Apr-20-08 11:27 PM |
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Wow you know 2 gun owners. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Apr-21-08 10:14 AM |
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wowwowowow! Yes I do! |
iverglas |
Apr-21-08 10:32 AM |
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Forgot to tell you. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Apr-21-08 11:29 PM |
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you did it for me, btw |
iverglas |
Apr-20-08 11:26 PM |
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This made me laugh. |
Callisto32 |
Apr-20-08 11:34 PM |
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"the receiving line for extraterrestrials" |
iverglas |
Apr-21-08 12:10 AM |
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I don't think the world is scary, actually |
Callisto32 |
Apr-21-08 09:21 AM |
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A doff of the cap to you iverglas |
WWFZD |
Apr-21-08 05:27 PM |
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oh, yoo noobie |
iverglas |
Apr-21-08 05:58 PM |
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You are obviously correct. |
TPaine7 |
Apr-20-08 10:54 PM |
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what a card |
iverglas |
Apr-20-08 10:59 PM |
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Where did you get that? |
Callisto32 |
Apr-20-08 11:04 PM |
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Your stereotype, not mine. |
TPaine7 |
Apr-20-08 11:38 PM |
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You have welfare in Canada. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Apr-21-08 10:17 AM |
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and we have maids and gardeners too!! |
iverglas |
Apr-21-08 10:29 AM |
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Do you call it welfare? |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Apr-21-08 11:25 PM |
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That is funny! |
M24PS90 |
Apr-21-08 03:47 PM |
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You'll be wanting to copy and paste something |
iverglas |
Apr-21-08 06:06 PM |
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You are talking to the right person |
M24PS90 |
Apr-22-08 01:57 AM |
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Shooting is Zen. FWIW, the NORC is one of the most respected social surveys in the USA |
benEzra |
Apr-20-08 07:46 AM |
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I would add the list of sponsers for the 2008 study |
pipoman |
Apr-20-08 08:28 AM |
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For practical purposes, the Joyce Foundation *IS* the U.S. anti-gun lobby. |
benEzra |
Apr-20-08 10:39 AM |
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Similar findings reported by Gary Kleck some 18 years ago... |
SteveM |
Apr-20-08 09:48 AM |
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The survey backs up my experience with gun owners... |
spin |
Apr-20-08 01:32 PM |
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I would suggest.... |
Callisto32 |
Apr-20-08 10:10 PM |
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Well, large numbers of urban poor... |
krispos42 |
Apr-20-08 09:19 PM |
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WOW!!! |
Longtooth |
Apr-20-08 10:34 PM |
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Apr-20-08 10:57 PM |
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Apr-20-08 11:00 PM |
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nah, they're looong gone |
iverglas |
Apr-20-08 11:17 PM |
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Yikes |
Callisto32 |
Apr-20-08 11:49 PM |
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Ouch! |
mvccd1000 |
Apr-21-08 01:04 AM |
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Good thing you're up in Canada. |
krispos42 |
Apr-24-08 02:04 AM |
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ha |
iverglas |
Apr-24-08 03:22 PM |
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Ugh... |
krispos42 |
Apr-25-08 01:02 AM |
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No, I'm a little along on my years on this rock |
Longtooth |
Apr-21-08 01:35 AM |
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Gosh back |
Longtooth |
Apr-21-08 01:34 AM |
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no checkups needed |
iverglas |
Apr-21-08 02:14 AM |
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Thanks for the warm welcome. Is this the normal reception for new folks? |
Longtooth |
Apr-21-08 02:22 AM |
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Apr-21-08 03:25 AM |
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Apr-21-08 10:07 AM |
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cheeses, didn't get the hint? |
iverglas |
Apr-21-08 10:11 AM |
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Thanks |
Longtooth |
Apr-21-08 01:00 PM |
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Welcome to DU... |
spin |
Apr-21-08 10:15 AM |
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??? |
iverglas |
Apr-21-08 10:34 AM |
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I'm beginning to sense that your not real big on gun rights |
Longtooth |
Apr-21-08 01:02 PM |
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guns got rights?? |
iverglas |
Apr-21-08 01:05 PM |
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Yes, the same rights that "speech" has. Guns are number two on the list. |
Longtooth |
Apr-21-08 01:09 PM |
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how bizarre |
iverglas |
Apr-21-08 01:12 PM |
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You wanted to play the word games. Now you want to tell jokes. |
Longtooth |
Apr-21-08 01:28 PM |
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Be nice to iverglas |
spin |
Apr-21-08 04:55 PM |
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Kindness begets kindness, hostility begets . . . . |
Longtooth |
Apr-22-08 10:53 AM |
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Two other good quotes... |
spin |
Apr-22-08 11:15 AM |
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I like quotes... |
spin |
Apr-21-08 04:29 PM |
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Thank you, I've always enjoyed Heinlein's works also. |
Longtooth |
Apr-21-08 01:01 PM |
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Wow, something got posted and deleted before I could even read it. |
Longtooth |
Apr-21-08 12:59 PM |
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hard to remember |
iverglas |
Apr-21-08 01:06 PM |
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Well, that WOULD have been a good one.... |
mvccd1000 |
Apr-20-08 10:59 PM |
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Since when do we value editorials from the Wall Street Journal? |
zanne |
Apr-21-08 02:58 PM |
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Amazing how many reactionary cesspools get linked to by our "pro-gun Democrats," isn't it? |
apocalypsehow |
Apr-21-08 04:36 PM |
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It's quite possible that "pro-gun Democrats " hold the same... |
spin |
Apr-21-08 04:58 PM |
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For starters, the next time you catch me linking to the WSJ (or citing it as a source) feel free to |
apocalypsehow |
Apr-21-08 05:05 PM |
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"reactionary cesspools"? |
WWFZD |
Apr-21-08 05:02 PM |
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Good Lord - we're back to this "innocent old me" routine again, are we? |
apocalypsehow |
Apr-21-08 05:15 PM |
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Interesting Wikipedia article on the New York Times |
spin |
Apr-21-08 06:03 PM |
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If wikipedia says it it's good enough for me |
WWFZD |
Apr-21-08 06:41 PM |
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You type a lot but don't say anything. |
apocalypsehow |
Apr-21-08 06:48 PM |
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Just because the study was mentioned in the WSJ... |
mvccd1000 |
Apr-22-08 04:14 AM |
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Once again, I don't care *WHO* conducted any study: my observation was related to the |
apocalypsehow |
Apr-22-08 12:45 PM |
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Actually, I was "rooting around" ... |
mvccd1000 |
Apr-22-08 11:16 PM |
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Like this, you mean? |
benEzra |
Apr-22-08 10:46 AM |
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Wow! Thanks for researching that. Good Job! |
Longtooth |
Apr-22-08 10:51 AM |
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Do try to keep on topic: I don't care if a resurrected Mahatma Gandhi conducted the study, |
apocalypsehow |
Apr-22-08 12:41 PM |
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"Gun Nut"="Art Fag" |
radioburning |
Apr-24-08 01:37 AM |
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Please, please, please stay anti-gun! |
radioburning |
May-03-08 03:44 PM |
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