jody
(1000+ posts)
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Thu Feb-28-08 02:54 PM
Original message |
| Obama was a board member of the Joyce Foundation that funds VPC to ban handguns. |
Obama was a board member of the Joyce Foundation that funds VPC to ban handguns. |
jody |
Feb-28-08 02:54 PM |
#0 |

I thought the Joyce Foundation was a right wing tool |
LiberalFighter |
Feb-28-08 02:56 PM |
#1 |
 
It is a right wing tool and the VPC is NOT trying to "ban" guns. |
zanne |
Mar-01-08 01:38 PM |
#157 |

yeah, they just love the 50cal (satellites, SR71's, holes in the moon, blahblahblah) n/t |
Tejas |
Apr-28-08 01:01 AM |
#264 |

Perhaps your right. Perhaps we should nominate Charlton Heston. |
GodlessBiker |
Feb-28-08 03:00 PM |
#2 |
 
no thanks, i like to vote for pro-RKBA Democrats... |
app_farmer_rb |
Feb-28-08 09:52 PM |
#99 |

This makes him even more attractive in my book. |
sellitman |
Feb-28-08 03:01 PM |
#3 |
 
Why?? |
virginia mountainman |
Feb-28-08 03:09 PM |
#6 |
  
Because |
sellitman |
Feb-28-08 04:08 PM |
#18 |
 
"making them illegal is a good start"! Don't you know that voters thought Gore and Kerry were |
jody |
Feb-28-08 04:13 PM |
#19 |
  
Most Americans are pro-gun control. |
zanne |
Mar-01-08 01:46 PM |
#159 |
 
Wrong |
Turbo Teg |
Mar-02-08 09:24 AM |
#166 |
 
Sigh. No, YOU are wrong, brand-new gun guy from who-knows -where... |
zanne |
Mar-02-08 11:59 AM |
#174 |
 
I knew someone would quote the flawed NORC report. The Joyce Foundation funds the prestigious |
jody |
Mar-02-08 12:27 PM |
#176 |
  
So the reports you refer to would have to be flawed also... |
zanne |
Mar-02-08 02:18 PM |
#179 |
 
Which report that I quoted depends upon surveys of people? n/t |
jody |
Mar-02-08 03:42 PM |
#189 |
 
Not much, unfortuantly... |
Firethorn |
Apr-24-08 04:41 PM |
#257 |
 
We can pull polls |
Turbo Teg |
Mar-02-08 02:06 PM |
#177 |
  
You have your polls and statistics, I have mine. |
zanne |
Mar-02-08 02:16 PM |
#178 |
 
please |
Turbo Teg |
Mar-02-08 02:22 PM |
#180 |
  
Use your head. |
zanne |
Mar-02-08 02:27 PM |
#181 |
 
I will not vote for |
Turbo Teg |
Mar-02-08 02:33 PM |
#182 |
 
Gun Ownership Declining in U.S. |
zanne |
Mar-02-08 02:59 PM |
#185 |
 
Well... |
Turbo Teg |
Mar-02-08 03:23 PM |
#187 |
  
So you don't like the idea of a decline in gun ownership? |
zanne |
Mar-03-08 08:01 AM |
#194 |
 
Not at all. |
Turbo Teg |
Mar-03-08 08:41 AM |
#195 |
  
You have your interpretation of the 2nd, I have mine... |
zanne |
Mar-03-08 08:56 AM |
#196 |
   
Soon, |
Turbo Teg |
Mar-03-08 09:10 AM |
#197 |
    
So I take it you're happy with the Right Wing conservative bias in the SCOTUS. |
zanne |
Mar-03-08 09:21 AM |
#198 |
    
I want them |
Turbo Teg |
Mar-03-08 09:42 AM |
#200 |
    
As I assumed, you did not answer my question. |
zanne |
Mar-03-08 09:53 AM |
#201 |
    
Then I assume you didn't read posts 237 or 234. |
Turbo Teg |
Mar-03-08 09:56 AM |
#202 |
    
I meant to say 237 and 244 |
Turbo Teg |
Mar-03-08 11:15 AM |
#210 |
    
Um, he DID answer you questions. Now it's your turn to answer his. |
L1A1Rocker |
Mar-03-08 02:15 PM |
#218 |
    
Why do you equate |
L1A1Rocker |
Mar-03-08 02:13 PM |
#217 |
    
Right wingers interpret the consitution to according to their own beliefs. |
zanne |
Mar-04-08 03:55 PM |
#226 |
    
I think you were looking in the mirror when you wrote that. LOL |
L1A1Rocker |
Mar-04-08 08:23 PM |
#227 |
    
My interpretation |
Turbo Teg |
Mar-04-08 08:27 PM |
#228 |
    
Sounds reasonable to me. |
L1A1Rocker |
Mar-03-08 02:11 PM |
#216 |
   
It's not about interpretation |
L1A1Rocker |
Mar-03-08 02:10 PM |
#215 |
    
You're saying GOD gives you the right to CCW? |
zanne |
Mar-05-08 08:34 AM |
#230 |
    
What's it to you |
Turbo Teg |
Mar-05-08 09:21 AM |
#231 |
    
FYI, I have been a victim of violence... |
zanne |
Mar-05-08 11:26 AM |
#235 |
    
Well, I'm glad |
Turbo Teg |
Mar-05-08 06:47 PM |
#245 |
   
Heh... |
Firethorn |
Apr-24-08 04:57 PM |
#258 |
  
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Mar-05-08 11:31 AM |
#237 |
 
What makes gun ownership sick? |
L1A1Rocker |
Mar-03-08 02:08 PM |
#214 |
 
Guns are made to wound and kill. |
zanne |
Mar-05-08 10:06 AM |
#232 |
 
That's right |
Turbo Teg |
Mar-05-08 06:57 PM |
#246 |
 
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Mar-05-08 07:33 PM |
#248 |
 
yes |
bossy22 |
Mar-02-08 03:53 PM |
#191 |
 
In #210 I showed the NORC report was biased because the gun-ban Joyce Foundation paid for it. Are |
jody |
Mar-02-08 04:08 PM |
#192 |
 
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Mar-03-08 09:22 AM |
#199 |
 
The Joyce Foundation paid for the NORC section on firearms and Joyce wants to ban handguns, |
jody |
Mar-03-08 12:35 PM |
#213 |
 
zanne, please answer my question in #213. n/t |
jody |
Mar-04-08 09:37 PM |
#229 |
 
I'm not going to search for your question. |
zanne |
Mar-05-08 11:29 AM |
#236 |
 
The sequence of post numbers has been changed because someone had several posts deleted. |
jody |
Mar-05-08 12:44 PM |
#238 |
 
And I'll say AGAIN.... |
zanne |
Mar-05-08 01:23 PM |
#241 |
 
I supported my position with facts and you rely upon your opinion. Readers know who won and lost. nt |
jody |
Mar-05-08 04:59 PM |
#242 |
 
I had facts. The fact that you reject them means nothing to me. |
zanne |
Mar-05-08 05:23 PM |
#243 |
 
Have a good day and good bye. n/t |
jody |
Mar-05-08 05:29 PM |
#244 |
 
Here you go. |
Turbo Teg |
Mar-02-08 02:48 PM |
#184 |
 
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Mar-02-08 03:05 PM |
#186 |
 
Sure, |
Turbo Teg |
Mar-02-08 03:41 PM |
#188 |
  
I was referring to the "Democratic" in "Democratic" Underground... |
zanne |
Mar-03-08 07:31 AM |
#193 |
 
Please annotate that rule Zane. |
L1A1Rocker |
Mar-03-08 02:18 PM |
#219 |
 
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Mar-03-08 02:19 PM |
#220 |
 
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Mar-02-08 03:51 PM |
#190 |
 
Whoa. |
radioburning |
Apr-28-08 12:50 PM |
#267 |
 
So, being new to this forum and being from "who-knows-where" automatically makes you wrong? |
radioburning |
May-03-08 02:59 PM |
#272 |
 
You're welcome to your opinion. |
EricTeri |
Feb-28-08 05:12 PM |
#27 |
 
No thanks, but thanks for the offer. |
sellitman |
Feb-28-08 05:45 PM |
#31 |
  
SCOTUS may settle the issue in D.C. v. Heller next month. n/t |
jody |
Feb-28-08 05:49 PM |
#33 |
  
You going to come enforce the law? |
EricTeri |
Feb-28-08 05:53 PM |
#38 |
   
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Mar-01-08 01:59 PM |
#161 |
  
"Gun Nuts" are not shooting each other. Criminals are shooting |
Hangingon |
Feb-28-08 06:07 PM |
#47 |
  
So you plan to move 80 million armed people against their will? |
sergeiAK |
Feb-28-08 06:34 PM |
#69 |
  
Wrong again |
Turbo Teg |
Mar-02-08 09:27 AM |
#167 |
 
Sure thing Eric |
sellitman |
Mar-01-08 01:24 PM |
#156 |
  
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Mar-01-08 01:56 PM |
#160 |
  
It sounds quite American |
EricTeri |
Mar-03-08 02:47 PM |
#225 |
 
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Mar-01-08 01:40 PM |
#158 |
 
"Banning handguns?" Like marijuana? ... |
SteveM |
Feb-29-08 10:26 AM |
#143 |

Good god.. |
virginia mountainman |
Feb-28-08 03:02 PM |
#4 |
 
Apparently, Obama was in solid with Joyce Foundation because he considered becoming its president. |
jody |
Feb-28-08 03:12 PM |
#8 |
 
As soon as he gets the nomination |
ac2007 |
Feb-28-08 04:35 PM |
#21 |

Most Americans APPROVE of gun guntrol... |
zanne |
Mar-01-08 02:01 PM |
#162 |

Actually, that's not true |
Turbo Teg |
Mar-02-08 09:35 AM |
#168 |
 
No....The American people have stated that they want MORE gun control. |
zanne |
Mar-02-08 12:02 PM |
#175 |

No. |
Turbo Teg |
Mar-03-08 11:28 AM |
#211 |

Please source your claim. I have not seen that anywhere. |
L1A1Rocker |
Mar-03-08 02:27 PM |
#222 |

Please source that assertion. I'd like to see that one. |
L1A1Rocker |
Mar-03-08 02:26 PM |
#221 |

Actually, most Americans APPROVE of you not talking out of your ass... |
radioburning |
May-03-08 03:16 PM |
#273 |

Are you voting for McCain? |
sandnsea |
Feb-28-08 03:08 PM |
#5 |
 
Name ONE TIME.. |
virginia mountainman |
Feb-28-08 03:10 PM |
#7 |
  
Are you supporting McCain? n/t |
sandnsea |
Feb-28-08 03:42 PM |
#12 |
 
No. |
jody |
Feb-28-08 03:13 PM |
#9 |
  
How does the OP support our Democrats? n/t |
sandnsea |
Feb-28-08 03:43 PM |
#13 |
 
Would you rather discuss the facts now or later, say the last few weeks of the GE? Sooner or later |
jody |
Feb-28-08 03:47 PM |
#15 |
  
bingo |
sepulveda |
Feb-28-08 03:54 PM |
#17 |
  
66% support stricter handgun laws |
sandnsea |
Feb-28-08 04:35 PM |
#22 |
   
I don't support the NRA, I support the Democratic Party on RKBA, you do not. The Dem Party says "We |
jody |
Feb-28-08 05:24 PM |
#28 |
    
it needs to be changed |
sepulveda |
Feb-28-08 05:43 PM |
#30 |
     
As I said in another post, SCOTUS may settle that issue next month in D.C. v. Heller. n/t |
jody |
Feb-28-08 05:51 PM |
#35 |
    
well yes |
sepulveda |
Feb-28-08 05:59 PM |
#43 |
    
In any case, we will be bound by the SCOTUS decision. n/t |
jody |
Feb-28-08 06:11 PM |
#53 |
    
i agree |
sepulveda |
Feb-28-08 08:15 PM |
#84 |
    
The Party also supports reasonable regulation |
sandnsea |
Feb-28-08 05:49 PM |
#32 |
   
If by "reasonable restriction of handguns in cities" you mean ban, please provide a source for your |
jody |
Feb-28-08 05:53 PM |
#37 |
   
I don't give a fuck what the voters want |
EricTeri |
Feb-28-08 06:01 PM |
#45 |
    
Some people believe individual rights |
sandnsea |
Feb-28-08 06:24 PM |
#62 |
     
I agree with you |
EricTeri |
Feb-28-08 06:28 PM |
#65 |
      
because |
sepulveda |
Feb-28-08 08:17 PM |
#85 |
      
Tell me how protesting a war infringes |
sandnsea |
Feb-28-08 08:56 PM |
#87 |
     
I've already explained how a parade can impact others. |
EricTeri |
Feb-29-08 12:19 PM |
#148 |
     
Well, first off |
Turbo Teg |
Mar-02-08 09:49 AM |
#169 |
     
So you preferr to restrict the rights of gun owners rather |
L1A1Rocker |
Mar-03-08 02:34 PM |
#224 |
    
I'm sure you don't care about anybody's rights but your own. |
zanne |
Mar-02-08 08:07 AM |
#163 |
    
So you're a Fascist? |
zanne |
Mar-05-08 10:08 AM |
#233 |
   
Facist? |
EricTeri |
Mar-05-08 01:19 PM |
#240 |
   
What the voters want??? |
virginia mountainman |
Feb-28-08 08:07 PM |
#82 |
   
I do not believe that banning handguns is reasonable. |
L1A1Rocker |
Mar-03-08 02:32 PM |
#223 |
   
90% do not know that what they want already is the law. |
ManiacJoe |
Feb-28-08 10:33 PM |
#115 |
    
They know about the gun show and newspaper ad loopholes. nt |
zanne |
Mar-02-08 08:27 AM |
#165 |
   
And in 1993, a majority of americans wanted universal health care |
krispos42 |
Feb-29-08 05:08 AM |
#136 |
   
Thank you, thank you for that! |
zanne |
Mar-02-08 08:25 AM |
#164 |
    
I'll call you out |
Turbo Teg |
Mar-02-08 10:12 AM |
#170 |
   
I'll call YOU out every time you say that Americans AREN'T for gun control. |
zanne |
Mar-02-08 11:57 AM |
#173 |
   
Well then here you go. |
Turbo Teg |
Mar-02-08 02:48 PM |
#183 |
   
And I can show you polls that show otherwise. Polls are BS. |
Turbo Teg |
Mar-05-08 09:10 PM |
#250 |
  
exactly |
facepalm |
Apr-28-08 07:21 AM |
#266 |
 
Not another "Lockstep" Democrat! |
DonP |
Feb-28-08 04:25 PM |
#20 |
  
Are you supporting McCain? n/t |
sandnsea |
Feb-28-08 04:36 PM |
#23 |
 
When did you stop beating your dog? |
DonP |
Feb-28-08 04:43 PM |
#24 |
 
Will I do? I voted for Obama, despite his "stinky and snorey" 2A stand... |
SteveM |
Feb-29-08 10:38 AM |
#144 |
 
he SAYS he does |
sepulveda |
Feb-28-08 03:22 PM |
#11 |

Are you supporting McCain? n/t |
sandnsea |
Feb-28-08 03:43 PM |
#14 |

no |
sepulveda |
Feb-28-08 03:53 PM |
#16 |

Does he support CCW registration of gun owners? |
sandnsea |
Feb-28-08 04:47 PM |
#25 |

You are aware that is illegal? |
ac2007 |
Feb-28-08 05:04 PM |
#26 |
 
CCW is a registry |
sandnsea |
Feb-28-08 05:50 PM |
#34 |

CCW is not a registry. A CCW is a permit recognizing a law-abiding citizen is exercising her/his |
jody |
Feb-28-08 05:56 PM |
#40 |
 
It registers individual people n/t |
sandnsea |
Feb-28-08 06:09 PM |
#51 |

And people with a CCW may or not possess handguns. n/t |
jody |
Feb-28-08 06:12 PM |
#54 |

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Feb-28-08 06:17 PM |
#59 |

Children have died |
Turbo Teg |
Mar-02-08 10:22 AM |
#171 |

no, it's not |
sepulveda |
Feb-28-08 05:40 PM |
#29 |
 
Every civil right has limits, every single one |
sandnsea |
Feb-28-08 05:52 PM |
#36 |

Speech, and the other rights are not regulated or restricted |
EricTeri |
Feb-28-08 05:56 PM |
#39 |
 
You have to get a permit to have a parade |
sandnsea |
Feb-28-08 06:02 PM |
#46 |

And you have to do those things because the exercise of your right |
EricTeri |
Feb-28-08 06:09 PM |
#48 |
 
And having a gun "could" limit someone's life |
sandnsea |
Feb-28-08 06:10 PM |
#52 |

I could limit someone's life in a variety of ways |
EricTeri |
Feb-28-08 06:14 PM |
#56 |

So don't infringe any other right either |
sandnsea |
Feb-28-08 06:17 PM |
#58 |

Not quite |
EricTeri |
Feb-28-08 06:31 PM |
#67 |

Like the protest or parade, |
sandnsea |
Feb-28-08 06:48 PM |
#73 |

Thats right - it DOES depend upon what you do with it. |
EricTeri |
Feb-28-08 07:03 PM |
#80 |

So the city has to be aware of people gathering to talk |
sandnsea |
Feb-28-08 08:58 PM |
#88 |

If a city is not aware there is crime |
EricTeri |
Feb-29-08 02:53 PM |
#152 |

Not quite right. |
ManiacJoe |
Feb-28-08 10:47 PM |
#117 |

Regulated yes but not banning handguns and that is what BO supported when he was considered for the |
jody |
Feb-28-08 05:58 PM |
#42 |
 
He supports cities making their own laws |
sandnsea |
Feb-28-08 06:09 PM |
#49 |

You misrepresent VPC's position which is to ban handguns. BO could have headed Joyce and he |
jody |
Feb-28-08 06:14 PM |
#57 |
 
He believes in letting cities decide |
sandnsea |
Feb-28-08 06:20 PM |
#61 |

That's his latest statement made for political purposes. Who knows what BO believes with his changes |
jody |
Feb-28-08 06:26 PM |
#63 |

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Feb-28-08 06:27 PM |
#64 |

I'm simply pointing out that BO has changed his position as many have pointed out. n/t |
jody |
Feb-28-08 06:32 PM |
#68 |

And I'm pointing out your intent is to smear him and Democrats n/t |
sandnsea |
Feb-28-08 06:42 PM |
#71 |

How can reporting facts that will come up in the GE be a smear? You are letting your emotions |
jody |
Feb-28-08 06:53 PM |
#75 |

Because it doesn't matter what his position is or ever was |
sandnsea |
Feb-28-08 06:58 PM |
#77 |

This forum is to discuss a very divisive issue that has cost we Dems the last two elections for |
jody |
Feb-28-08 07:06 PM |
#81 |

No, an issue completely concocted and fueled by the NRA n/t |
sandnsea |
Feb-28-08 08:55 PM |
#86 |

sure. just like choice and abortion rights were an issued completely concoted and fueled by NARAL |
sepulveda |
Feb-28-08 09:00 PM |
#89 |

No, that was completely concocted by right wing groups |
sandnsea |
Feb-28-08 09:16 PM |
#91 |

And the debate is.... |
krispos42 |
Feb-29-08 05:33 AM |
#138 |

I see we disagree on the importance of RKBA to Dem candidates in many areas. Since you ignore the |
jody |
Feb-28-08 09:20 PM |
#92 |

Until people like you stop distorting |
sandnsea |
Feb-28-08 09:36 PM |
#94 |

Please tell me one thing I've distorted? n/t |
jody |
Feb-28-08 09:39 PM |
#95 |

Obama wants to ban handguns |
sandnsea |
Feb-28-08 09:44 PM |
#97 |

Read the OP again. I said BO was on the board of the Joyce Foundation, that it funded VPC, and VPC |
jody |
Feb-28-08 09:50 PM |
#98 |

#57 and #66 |
sandnsea |
Feb-28-08 09:56 PM |
#101 |

sandnsea you really are reading to casually before you jump to false conclusions. I said: |
jody |
Feb-28-08 10:18 PM |
#109 |

And then said he's "changed his position" |
sandnsea |
Feb-28-08 10:22 PM |
#113 |

As I proved, you distorted my two posts. Either just stop already or apologize for your error. n/t |
jody |
Feb-28-08 10:26 PM |
#114 |

It's the only logical conclusion |
sandnsea |
Feb-28-08 10:51 PM |
# |

Why not go back to the OP and deal with the facts about BO & Joyce & VPC. You can't explain those |
jody |
Feb-29-08 07:25 AM |
#141 |

You are clearly in denial. |
beevul |
Feb-28-08 10:51 PM |
#118 |

More like an issue created by Brady... |
Firethorn |
Apr-24-08 05:11 PM |
#259 |

That's fine |
Turbo Teg |
Mar-02-08 10:42 AM |
#172 |

nobody |
sepulveda |
Feb-28-08 06:00 PM |
#44 |
 
If you twist his views |
sandnsea |
Feb-28-08 06:12 PM |
#55 |

i haven't twisted anything |
sepulveda |
Feb-28-08 08:14 PM |
#83 |

Which views would those be? |
beevul |
Feb-28-08 10:55 PM |
#120 |

And regarding Constitutional rights, the limits are very strict. |
krispos42 |
Feb-29-08 05:26 AM |
#137 |

Dean supported the AWB *in 2004*, but dropped it in '06 as part of the 50 State Strategy. |
benEzra |
Feb-28-08 05:57 PM |
#41 |
 
VPC wants a draconian AWB. BO was a bd mbr and almost pres. of the Joyce Foundation that funds VPC. |
jody |
Feb-28-08 06:09 PM |
#50 |

Just what is "nutbally"? |
Hangingon |
Feb-28-08 06:20 PM |
#60 |

Then don't distort the Dem Party gun position |
sandnsea |
Feb-28-08 06:29 PM |
#66 |

sandnsea I believe you've said that you want to ban handguns, have you changed? n/t |
jody |
Feb-28-08 06:35 PM |
#70 |
 
I have never ever said that, not ever |
sandnsea |
Feb-28-08 06:43 PM |
#72 |

Then you oppose bans on handguns? n/t |
jody |
Feb-28-08 06:54 PM |
#76 |

I oppose 100% ban on all handguns, yes n/t |
sandnsea |
Feb-28-08 06:59 PM |
#78 |

Which law-abiding citizens would you allow to possess handguns for self-defense? n/t |
jody |
Feb-28-08 07:02 PM |
#79 |

I would place limits on sales |
sandnsea |
Feb-28-08 09:06 PM |
#90 |

OK, what additional people would you add to 18 USC 922 I quote below? |
jody |
Feb-28-08 09:31 PM |
#93 |
 
We don't have any enforcement |
sandnsea |
Feb-28-08 09:42 PM |
#96 |

Please provide credible source that any pro-RKBA group opposes aggressive enforcement of existing |
jody |
Feb-28-08 09:56 PM |
#102 |
 
Please show me funding proposals |
sandnsea |
Feb-28-08 09:57 PM |
#103 |

The entire BATF budget? -nt |
sergeiAK |
Feb-28-08 10:02 PM |
#105 |
 
To monitor who has guns? |
sandnsea |
Feb-28-08 10:08 PM |
#107 |
 
They enforce the laws. You asked for an example of funding to do so. |
sergeiAK |
Feb-28-08 10:22 PM |
#112 |
 
I was talking about specific proposals |
sandnsea |
Feb-28-08 10:53 PM |
#119 |
 
Law enforcement doesn't prosecutor, they investigate |
ac2007 |
Feb-28-08 11:05 PM |
#123 |
 
You're proving my point |
sandnsea |
Feb-28-08 11:28 PM |
#126 |
 
Last I checked, you asked for funding proposals. |
sergeiAK |
Feb-28-08 11:16 PM |
#124 |
 
NRA screwed that bill up |
sandnsea |
Feb-28-08 11:31 PM |
#127 |
 
With insisting on an appeals process? |
sergeiAK |
Feb-28-08 11:36 PM |
#128 |
 
That's all the bill is now |
sandnsea |
Feb-28-08 11:47 PM |
#129 |
 
The rest of the bill is still there |
sergeiAK |
Feb-28-08 11:50 PM |
#130 |
 
The bill to restore gun rights |
sandnsea |
Feb-29-08 12:15 AM |
#131 |
 
You're quoting Sugarmann. Try quoting the legislation |
sergeiAK |
Feb-29-08 12:19 AM |
#132 |
 
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Name removed |
Feb-29-08 12:58 AM |
#135 |
 
So the NRA is also extremely biased? |
sergeiAK |
Feb-29-08 08:45 AM |
#142 |
 
What's wrong with an appeal process? |
Firethorn |
Apr-28-08 02:23 PM |
#268 |
 
It certainly did. That good ole' gun lobby... |
zanne |
Mar-05-08 12:44 PM |
#239 |
 
I love that picture. |
Turbo Teg |
Mar-05-08 07:01 PM |
#247 |
 
Quick question: How much does S&W make from the NRA, and from sales? -nt |
sergeiAK |
Mar-05-08 08:07 PM |
#249 |

You said "we try to enforce these laws, the NRA screams 2nd Amendment" Prove it. n/t |
jody |
Feb-28-08 10:20 PM |
#110 |

Here |
sandnsea |
Feb-28-08 10:59 PM |
#121 |

Sorry, your cite is about a bill not passed. You said "we try to enforce these laws". Try again? n/ |
jody |
Feb-29-08 07:22 AM |
#140 |

Um, for dishonorably discharged, last gunshow I was at |
sergeiAK |
Feb-28-08 10:00 PM |
#104 |
 
There you go, the laws aren't enforced |
sandnsea |
Feb-28-08 10:06 PM |
#106 |

Show an example where |
sergeiAK |
Feb-28-08 10:17 PM |
#108 |

Supporters of the NICS background check system... |
krispos42 |
Feb-29-08 05:45 AM |
#139 |

Actually |
Turbo Teg |
Mar-03-08 10:21 AM |
#203 |

I don't think 90% ever supported the Brady Bill. Prove it. |
Hangingon |
Feb-28-08 06:52 PM |
#74 |

Yes, it's true |
sandnsea |
Feb-28-08 09:53 PM |
#100 |

Those are 10 years or older |
ac2007 |
Feb-28-08 10:21 PM |
#111 |

*sigh* "ever supported" |
sandnsea |
Feb-28-08 10:46 PM |
#116 |

Thanks for citing a poll that contradicts you |
ac2007 |
Feb-28-08 11:01 PM |
#122 |

That's why I posted the whole thing |
sandnsea |
Feb-28-08 11:24 PM |
#125 |

the bias |
sepulveda |
Feb-29-08 12:50 AM |
#134 |

I call BULLSHIT on this one. |
Hangingon |
Feb-29-08 11:49 AM |
#146 |

Well, there goes the Presidency. |
johnbraun |
Feb-28-08 03:20 PM |
#10 |
 
I wonder how many of the gun grabbers* |
Malidictus Maximus |
Feb-29-08 12:48 AM |
#133 |
  
The GOP will try to use the "gun issue," but Obama is smart... |
SteveM |
Feb-29-08 11:05 AM |
#145 |
 
I just left a google search of Obama and the second amendment. |
Hangingon |
Feb-29-08 12:01 PM |
#147 |
 
I've read his background on guns. We have a bad choice... |
SteveM |
Feb-29-08 06:19 PM |
#153 |
 
I hope you are right but Ted Kennedy's endorsement with Teddy's gun-grabber image bothers me. n/t |
jody |
Feb-29-08 07:14 PM |
#154 |
 
It's certainly has the potential to cost him some votes |
slackmaster |
Feb-29-08 01:53 PM |
#149 |

Indeed. Gun control is not a "voting issue" for most voters. |
johnbraun |
Feb-29-08 02:21 PM |
#150 |
 
Most of the pro-gun people are Republicans, anyway. nt |
zanne |
Mar-03-08 10:31 AM |
#204 |

Again |
Turbo Teg |
Mar-03-08 10:40 AM |
#205 |

***RIGHT HERE. THIS IS WHAT'S COSTING US ELECTIONS! |
johnbraun |
Mar-03-08 10:47 AM |
#206 |
 
Your statistics are not factual. |
zanne |
Mar-03-08 10:55 AM |
#207 |
  
You don't have to |
Turbo Teg |
Mar-03-08 11:01 AM |
#209 |
  
Updated. 39% of gun owners are Dem. |
johnbraun |
Mar-03-08 11:40 AM |
#212 |
 
well said john. |
Turbo Teg |
Mar-03-08 10:57 AM |
#208 |

Most pro-gun people are Democrats and independents |
krispos42 |
Mar-05-08 11:21 AM |
#234 |

I like the pledge idea for BO and Hillary. No attempt to explain (BS) their past, just say I pledge. |
jody |
Feb-29-08 02:23 PM |
#151 |

I agree. And now is the time to do it. (nt) |
SteveM |
Mar-06-08 09:22 PM |
#251 |

this is the cancer that is killing our party |
facepalm |
Apr-22-08 06:22 PM |
#252 |

just visiting the cemetery? |
iverglas |
Apr-22-08 07:38 PM |
#254 |

OBAMA ........................... ROCKS !!! |
fightthegoodfightnow |
Feb-29-08 09:45 PM |
#155 |

really, jody? |
iverglas |
Apr-22-08 07:31 PM |
#253 |

Guns kill Democrats (figuratively speaking) |
Carl in Chicago |
Apr-23-08 09:39 AM |
#255 |

Every day, gun owners in America have the insatiable urge to ... |
radioburning |
Apr-24-08 03:50 PM |
#256 |
 
What is the purpose of your post? n/t |
jody |
Apr-24-08 10:39 PM |
#260 |

To point out irrationalities, fear mongering tactics, and ignorance. |
radioburning |
Apr-27-08 11:13 PM |
#261 |

And done extremely well (applauding!) n/t |
Tejas |
Apr-28-08 01:07 AM |
#265 |

Hey! You're a gun owner! Stop being rational and friendly! ; ) n/t |
radioburning |
May-03-08 01:53 PM |
#270 |

I really wanted to be an Obama supporter. |
radioburning |
Apr-27-08 11:17 PM |
#262 |

I may already have asked this ... |
iverglas |
Apr-27-08 11:24 PM |
#263 |

If he's for banning guns that I own, how is that misleading? |
radioburning |
May-03-08 01:48 PM |
#269 |

well since Richardson didn't make the cut, what else are our choices? |
facepalm |
May-03-08 02:50 PM |
#271 |