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Hobarticus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 12:12 AM
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24. Dude, if I don't own a gun, what good am I in this militia?
What's a member of a "well-regulated militia" without a gun?

I have no formal military training, I have no basic gear or skills to be of any use to any military unit.

I have no firearm appropriate for any sort of defense against a well-armed invader, likely with armor and air support.

I have no idea who I am to report to, if called up, or where.

Am I subject to be press-ganged into this unorganized militia against my will?

Where exactly do my rights as a citizen and rights to property get superseded by this unorganized militia authority?

Who has command-and-control over this unorganized militia? What exactly is the order of battle? Is this under the command of my governor and National Guard, or is this under command of the DoD?

How exactly does the federal government call out an unorganized militia? Will I get a pre-recorded message on my phone or something?

And how is an unorganized militia different from a well-regulated militia? I thought the 2nd amendment specifies a well-regulated militia?

You seem to be in some position of authority and know a lot about this, so I've got some questions, understandably.
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  -The pesky meaning of "Well Regulated" Elmer1007  Feb-21-08 08:49 AM   #0 
  - I missed the last Official State Militia Training date...  Hobarticus   Feb-21-08 08:53 AM   #1 
  - You're already in the militia.  johnbraun   Feb-21-08 09:46 AM   #5 
     - deleted  johnbraun   Feb-21-08 09:48 AM   #6 
     - So, if I'm in the militia...  Hobarticus   Feb-21-08 10:46 AM   #10 
     - Nope. It's your responsibility to know the law.  johnbraun   Feb-21-08 11:10 AM   #11 
        - LOL!  Hobarticus   Feb-21-08 11:12 AM   #12 
           - Laugh if you want, the law is the law.  johnbraun   Feb-21-08 11:15 AM   #13 
              - Maybe you should turn me in...  Hobarticus   Feb-21-08 11:16 AM   #14 
                 - Dude, it doesn't say you have to own a gun. Just that you're in the militia by law.  johnbraun   Feb-21-08 11:32 AM   #15 
                    - Dude, if I don't own a gun, what good am I in this militia?  Hobarticus   Feb-22-08 12:12 AM   #24 
                       - Exactly.  johnbraun   Feb-22-08 12:29 AM   #25 
     - Crimminy. If you could read you would be dangerous. It says no such thing.  bluerum   Feb-21-08 04:56 PM   #20 
  - Although - one could say that part of being a "well regulated" and military  bluerum   Feb-21-08 09:01 AM   #2 
  - Hamilton was in favor of a "select militia", instead of one where everyone was mandated  jmg257   Feb-21-08 09:16 AM   #4 
  - And this will be the next anti argument, mark my words.  johnbraun   Feb-21-08 09:57 AM   #8 
     - The wording is clear - that there shall BE a well regulated militia to protect  bluerum   Feb-21-08 04:52 PM   #19 
        - That is from the Federalist Papers (#29) - not the Constitution or the 2nd amendment,  jmg257   Feb-21-08 08:52 PM   #23 
  - Of course that's what it means. An "effective militia" is necessary, because the recourse is a  jmg257   Feb-21-08 09:09 AM   #3 
  - USC 10.311 places all males 17-45 not in the armed forces in a militia.  johnbraun   Feb-21-08 09:49 AM   #7 
  - Yes, Well regulated, as in well functioning  Indy Lurker   Feb-21-08 10:44 AM   #9 
  - Maybe I'm confused...  Plague   Feb-21-08 02:04 PM   #16 
     - It does seem clear to me as well.  Indy Lurker   Feb-21-08 02:28 PM   #17 
        - As I said, USC 10.311 "regulates" the unorganized militia.  johnbraun   Feb-21-08 02:32 PM   #18 
           - Righto then. I am in the militia.  bluerum   Feb-21-08 04:56 PM   #21 
  - Well regulated, er stated  WWFZD   Feb-21-08 06:27 PM   #22 
  - Congress must "provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia". It's derelict in that  jody   Feb-22-08 12:53 PM   #26 
 

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