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jmg257 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 08:52 PM
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23. That is from the Federalist Papers (#29) - not the Constitution or the 2nd amendment,
Edited on Thu Feb-21-08 08:57 PM by jmg257
or the Militia Act of 1792 when congress 1st did its duty per the Constitution. Hamilton had a vision - but that is not what was laid down by law. Not too many others (the States) trusted the new govt with so much power as to allow them complete control of the militias.

The Militias of the several States were well defined entities by this time - the Constitution made them a requirement - made them permanent, and after the federal Militia Act they became more standardized - duty was mandatory for most able-bodies males of certain ages. There was no "select Militia" - "eveyone" had to serve in their state militias, everyone had to arm themselves, & train/muster on occasion to become well regulated. (exemptions for legislators, public servants etc.)

The citizenry was the Militia - right up until the creation of the National Guard (circa 1903-1906).
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  -The pesky meaning of "Well Regulated" Elmer1007  Feb-21-08 08:49 AM   #0 
  - I missed the last Official State Militia Training date...  Hobarticus   Feb-21-08 08:53 AM   #1 
  - You're already in the militia.  johnbraun   Feb-21-08 09:46 AM   #5 
     - deleted  johnbraun   Feb-21-08 09:48 AM   #6 
     - So, if I'm in the militia...  Hobarticus   Feb-21-08 10:46 AM   #10 
     - Nope. It's your responsibility to know the law.  johnbraun   Feb-21-08 11:10 AM   #11 
        - LOL!  Hobarticus   Feb-21-08 11:12 AM   #12 
           - Laugh if you want, the law is the law.  johnbraun   Feb-21-08 11:15 AM   #13 
              - Maybe you should turn me in...  Hobarticus   Feb-21-08 11:16 AM   #14 
                 - Dude, it doesn't say you have to own a gun. Just that you're in the militia by law.  johnbraun   Feb-21-08 11:32 AM   #15 
                    - Dude, if I don't own a gun, what good am I in this militia?  Hobarticus   Feb-22-08 12:12 AM   #24 
                       - Exactly.  johnbraun   Feb-22-08 12:29 AM   #25 
     - Crimminy. If you could read you would be dangerous. It says no such thing.  bluerum   Feb-21-08 04:56 PM   #20 
  - Although - one could say that part of being a "well regulated" and military  bluerum   Feb-21-08 09:01 AM   #2 
  - Hamilton was in favor of a "select militia", instead of one where everyone was mandated  jmg257   Feb-21-08 09:16 AM   #4 
  - And this will be the next anti argument, mark my words.  johnbraun   Feb-21-08 09:57 AM   #8 
     - The wording is clear - that there shall BE a well regulated militia to protect  bluerum   Feb-21-08 04:52 PM   #19 
        - That is from the Federalist Papers (#29) - not the Constitution or the 2nd amendment,  jmg257   Feb-21-08 08:52 PM   #23 
  - Of course that's what it means. An "effective militia" is necessary, because the recourse is a  jmg257   Feb-21-08 09:09 AM   #3 
  - USC 10.311 places all males 17-45 not in the armed forces in a militia.  johnbraun   Feb-21-08 09:49 AM   #7 
  - Yes, Well regulated, as in well functioning  Indy Lurker   Feb-21-08 10:44 AM   #9 
  - Maybe I'm confused...  Plague   Feb-21-08 02:04 PM   #16 
     - It does seem clear to me as well.  Indy Lurker   Feb-21-08 02:28 PM   #17 
        - As I said, USC 10.311 "regulates" the unorganized militia.  johnbraun   Feb-21-08 02:32 PM   #18 
           - Righto then. I am in the militia.  bluerum   Feb-21-08 04:56 PM   #21 
  - Well regulated, er stated  WWFZD   Feb-21-08 06:27 PM   #22 
  - Congress must "provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia". It's derelict in that  jody   Feb-22-08 12:53 PM   #26 
 

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